Santiago under curfew

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#41 Post by drwintercreeper » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:24 am

That time lapse video was pretty incredible. You and all the other participants are brave. I have a ton of respect for y'all.

Stay safe, keep agitating... someday the future will be brighter than it seems now.

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#42 Post by perkana » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:56 pm

mockbee wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:56 am



I am honored to read your account.
Your people are amazing.

:rockon:


As always, stay safe. :wave:
2x

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#43 Post by guysmiley » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:00 am

So this popped up. A live feed. Judging on the honks from cars already today will be another crazy one. Take care Larry. I could see something like this happen in the US. You all who can't imagine it are living under a nice rock.

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#44 Post by Larry B. » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:30 pm

Thank you. Yeah, that’s the go-to live stream for Santiago’s main square. Today I won’t be able to go, as I’m visiting a friend who’s on the clinic, getting treatment for multiple sclerosis.

By the way, every day there are anywhere between 5 and 10 big, major demonstrations in Santiago. Dozens more in the rest of the country.

Yesterday, the dictators addressed the nation and some people were hopeful of receiving some decent announcements. He presented a 10-point plan to increase the powers of the police, the military and intelligence. He was panned by everyone except his party. He called the Council of National Security and (reportedly) even the army generals told him that he shouldn’t have called the council, as this situation has nothing to do with national security. I hope that congress will reject his fucking stupid 10-point plan.

There’s a national strike called for next Tuesday.

We’ll see what happens.

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#45 Post by kv » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:55 am



Crazy times

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#46 Post by Larry B. » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:41 am

Two days ago in Plaza Italia, the place where I usually go to demonstrate, the police started shooting pellets. A guy was shot in both eyes and lost them. As he was receiving surgery yesterday, a relatively small crowd of people gathered outside the clinic to show support. The police went there and deployed tear gas and pepper spray on them. It’s just disgusting.

A few children were wounded by pellets as well.

Remember: these are all peaceful demonstrations. And we’re not in a state of emergency, when some human rights are not guaranteed. The dictatorship is taking away our right to free gathering and free speech.

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#47 Post by mockbee » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:42 am

That is despicable of your government to treat you that way.
:wavesad:

I hope it puts that much more resolve in your people's push for dignity and justice. You've already shown such amazing courage, passion and comradery.

Keep going! :rockon:

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#48 Post by Larry B. » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:58 am

Today there’s a general strike and there’s going to be massive demonstrations all over the country. I wouldn’t be surprised if later in the evening or night the dictator sends the military to the streets.

The value of the Chilean peso keeps dropping relative to the dollar, and since the demonstrations began, the Chilean stock market has dropped 15%.

I’m in the hospital waiting for the release of a friend who was receiving treatment for multiple sclerosis (I’m taking him home) and the person he’s sharing the room with was shot by the police in a demonstration, apparently he received a proper bullet. It broke his arm and they couldn’t remove every piece of shard (is that the right word?)

After I take him home (the fucking doctor hasn’t showed up to release him yet), I’ll go to the main square as usual.

Yesterday, there was a session of the International Human Rights Commission with representatives of the Chilean State and the Chilean Civil Society. The Chilean regime based their defense on “people destroyed private property and violated other people’s right to free movement, because they broke down subway stations.” It was embarrassing. The Chairwoman of the Commission congratulated the Chilean people for standing for their rights. Also, a representative of the Chilean Civil Society said right there and then that the representatives of the regime were lying. I teared up a bit at the end, feeling like we were being heard and valued.

Anyway... today, things should be intense. I’ll be there doing my bit.

Final note: usually, my resting heart beat is around 60 bpm. Today it’s around 75 bpm.

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#49 Post by Larry B. » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:06 am

This is a photo of the young lad that lost both eyes a few days ago.
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Re: Santiago under curfew

#50 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:09 am

Larry B. wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:58 am
Today there’s a general strike and there’s going to be massive demonstrations all over the country. I wouldn’t be surprised if later in the evening or night the dictator sends the military to the streets.

The value of the Chilean peso keeps dropping relative to the dollar, and since the demonstrations began, the Chilean stock market has dropped 15%.

I’m in the hospital waiting for the release of a friend who was receiving treatment for multiple sclerosis (I’m taking him home) and the person he’s sharing the room with was shot by the police in a demonstration, apparently he received a proper bullet. It broke his arm and they couldn’t remove every piece of shard (is that the right word?)

After I take him home (the fucking doctor hasn’t showed up to release him yet), I’ll go to the main square as usual.

Yesterday, there was a session of the International Human Rights Commission with representatives of the Chilean State and the Chilean Civil Society. The Chilean regime based their defense on “people destroyed private property and violated other people’s right to free movement, because they broke down subway stations.” It was embarrassing. The Chairwoman of the Commission congratulated the Chilean people for standing for their rights. Also, a representative of the Chilean Civil Society said right there and then that the representatives of the regime were lying. I teared up a bit at the end, feeling like we were being heard and valued.

Anyway... today, things should be intense. I’ll be there doing my bit.

Final note: usually, my resting heart beat is around 60 bpm. Today it’s around 75 bpm.

Wow. My thoughts are with you and your people today Larry.

Strength in numbers, stay safe. :gh:



You're living life! :tiphat:

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#51 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:11 am

Larry B. wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:06 am
This is a photo of the young lad that lost both eyes a few days ago.

tragic. :no: :wavesad:

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#52 Post by Mescal » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:17 pm

Larry B. wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:06 am
This is a photo of the young lad that lost both eyes a few days ago.
This is just terrible :nyrexall:

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#53 Post by Larry B. » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:34 pm

Well, I guess this might already be boring for some, but writing is good for me too... almost like a bit of a journal.

Today was really rough and I spent most of my 3 hours there right behind the first line... I saw 3 people injured by gunshots, and at least a dozen by rubber bullets.

Today, after being asked by a journalist whether they were going to forbid the use of pellets and rubber bullets, the regime said “of course they are forbidden... for peaceful demonstrators.” And this is a regime that considers blocking a street as un-peaceful and violent.

So it was round after round after round. I went theough 2 liters of water + bicarbonate. With some hindsight, it’s a bit surreal that it’s become normal to see hundreds of people (myself included) having to adopt a “crash” position when they are shooting at us. I put one knee on the floor, lower my head (so that my helmet and my shin are sort of covering the rest of my body) and once the rounds stop, I try to spray as many people as I can and/or retaliate with rocks or pieces of concrete.

In political terms, there has been some movement. The centre and the left today joined forces (for the first time in quite a while) and published a statement requesting/demanding a referendum, constituent assembly and a new constitution. The far right has already said “NO”, but there is one party from the right who have not aligned themselves as tightly with the regime... so there might be something they could negotiate.

Tonight, the dictator is meeting with his Minister of Defence. Nobody knows what’s going to happen, except that they will cry about the violence and congratulate the police for the lovely, honorable work they are doing.

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#54 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:48 pm

Larry B. wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:34 pm
Well, I guess this might already be boring for some, but writing is good for me too... almost like a bit of a journal.

Today was really rough and I spent most of my 3 hours there right behind the first line... I saw 3 people injured by gunshots, and at least a dozen by rubber bullets.

Today, after being asked by a journalist whether they were going to forbid the use of pellets and rubber bullets, the regime said “of course they are forbidden... for peaceful demonstrators.” And this is a regime that considers blocking a street as un-peaceful and violent.

So it was round after round after round. I went theough 2 liters of water + bicarbonate. With some hindsight, it’s a bit surreal that it’s become normal to see hundreds of people (myself included) having to adopt a “crash” position when they are shooting at us. I put one knee on the floor, lower my head (so that my helmet and my shin are sort of covering the rest of my body) and once the rounds stop, I try to spray as many people as I can and/or retaliate with rocks or pieces of concrete.

In political terms, there has been some movement. The centre and the left today joined forces (for the first time in quite a while) and published a statement requesting/demanding a referendum, constituent assembly and a new constitution. The far right has already said “NO”, but there is one party from the right who have not aligned themselves as tightly with the regime... so there might be something they could negotiate.

Tonight, the dictator is meeting with his Minister of Defence. Nobody knows what’s going to happen, except that they will cry about the violence and congratulate the police for the lovely, honorable work they are doing.

Keep writing Larry.

We are reading it. It sounds so intense and must seem endless. Change only occurs with persistence and resolve, sounds like your people have all that in spades.

:cool:

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#55 Post by Mescal » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:15 pm

Yeah man! If reading means supporting you .... We'll keep on reading

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#56 Post by Larry B. » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:03 am

Thank you ✌🏼

Last night, the dictator announced that the police will be allowing retired police people to join as reinforcements. That’s pathetic on so many levels. The regime wanted to go back to sending the military to the streets, but apparently the armed forces said no to that.

Tomorrow (Thursday) will be tough, as it’s the first anniversary of the death of Catrillanca, an indigenous social leader who was murdered by the State. They tried to pass it off as a fair death and made up a story that he had stolen a car off a teacher (?), but body cameras revealed that he was just followed and murdered. It was a pretty big deal, and the former Minister of Interior was behind it. I fully expect Thursday to be quite violent (especially in the city where he was killed), and I’m sure the police will attack ‘preemptively’ and there eill be civilian casualties. I wouldn’t be surprised if we habe another curfew and state of exception then.

I had never seen the dictator so lonely and lost. He has a few ministers who support him, and the far right party will support him with their votes, but he’s a laughing stock for everyone. I’d expect the families who own the country to start asking for his head soon, because there is no way in this world HE will take the country out of this crisis.

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#57 Post by Larry B. » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:39 am

So, a few hours ago we had an important announcement from Congress.

In a nutshell, the country is kickstarting the process for a new Constitution. This is important and significant because we are STILL living under the constitution created by Pinochet in 1980. It has undergone several changes throughout the years, but it's still undemocratic and overly protective of the conservative conglomerate and the military.

The process will be as follows:

1. In April 2020, there will be a referendum with two questions: "Do you support the creation of a new constitution?" and "Should the new constitution be created via a Constitutional Assembly (i.e., people elected to create it) or a Mixed Council (50% congresspeople and 50% people elected to create it)"

2. If the new constitution choice goes through, the body will have 9-12 months to create it. Apparently, articles will need a majority of 2/3 to go into the Constitution.

3. After its creation, there will be another referendum to approve it/reject it.

4. If approved, Congress has to approve it too (all parties committed to approving it... but you can never trust politicians) and Pinochet's constitution will die.

It's a nice step forward. We'll see what happens now in terms of public demonstrations. Yesterday might've been the most intense day so far. Many people injured, and a guy next to me would've lost his right eye had he not been wearing safety goggles. It was incredible.

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#58 Post by mockbee » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:48 am

WOW!

Congratulations Larry, that is HUGE if this goes through!

Your people are inspirational, the world can learn a lot from Chile, of course your government has to be in such a place that they feel they have no choice but to accede to the people. A tricky endeavor with unknown consequences and results.

Nice work!

Keep it up!


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Re: Santiago under curfew

#59 Post by mockbee » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:48 am

I’m in the hospital waiting for the release of a friend who was receiving treatment for multiple sclerosis (I’m taking him home) and the person he’s sharing the room with was shot by the police in a demonstration, apparently he received a proper bullet. It broke his arm and they couldn’t remove every piece of shard (is that the right word?)
Since your job is to translate I thought I would give my two American cents on your inquiry.

You could say:
It broke his arm and they couldn’t remove every shard.
or
It broke his arm and they couldn’t remove every piece of shrapnel.
:wave:

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Re: Santiago under curfew

#60 Post by Larry B. » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:21 am

Thank you for that!

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