Rick Santorum wants to ban porn

[Romeo]

The crowd responded with loud booing and chants of "USA! USA!" as the kissers, identified by The Palatine Patch as Timothy Tross and Ben Clifford, were ejected from the venue.

I was in a bar once, In England I believe that was, where this bunch of 18 year old Americans were getting drunk, some were already outside puking their guts out, .... you know the typical "I never drank before" type scenes, when I went back inside the others were all shouting "USA! USA! USA!"

What's up with that? I don't go around shouting Belgium, Belgium?

Because didn't you know? The louder you shout it at sporting events the bigger the patriot you are.

[Jasper]

The crowd responded with loud booing and chants of "USA! USA!" as the kissers, identified by The Palatine Patch as Timothy Tross and Ben Clifford, were ejected from the venue.

I was in a bar once, In England I believe that was, where this bunch of 18 year old Americans were getting drunk, some were already outside puking their guts out, .... you know the typical "I never drank before" type scenes, when I went back inside the others were all shouting "USA! USA! USA!"

What's up with that? I don't go around shouting Belgium, Belgium?

Sounds like a group of dumb jocks, or maybe some Naval recruits or something. Anyway, I've lived in the U.S. my entire life, and I've never heard that chanted anywhere other than on TV. The U.S. is a big country - really fucking big - and there are some weird places out there, some of which are relatively isolated. Many parts of the U.S. are about as familiar to me as Mars. It's unfortunate that the actions of some can reflect poorly on everyone else, but at the same time, it's a behavior that's about as alien to me as it is to you. Rest assured that regardless of any weirdos out there, the mainstream Republicans, let alone the rest of the country, are unlikely to nominate the likes of Rick Santorum.

[Matz]

The crowd responded with loud booing and chants of "USA! USA!" as the kissers, identified by The Palatine Patch as Timothy Tross and Ben Clifford, were ejected from the venue.

I was in a bar once, In England I believe that was, where this bunch of 18 year old Americans were getting drunk, some were already outside puking their guts out, .... you know the typical "I never drank before" type scenes, when I went back inside the others were all shouting "USA! USA! USA!"

What's up with that? I don't go around shouting Belgium, Belgium?

It's to remind themselves what country they are from. Like, wearing a flag pin is to remind politicians and other public officials what country they are in.

I thought the whole flag pin thing began right after 9/11 to help politicians show their patriotism. And when they forget to wear one or much worse choose not to they're in trouble, but maybe I'm wrong

[Romeo]

The crowd responded with loud booing and chants of "USA! USA!" as the kissers, identified by The Palatine Patch as Timothy Tross and Ben Clifford, were ejected from the venue.

I was in a bar once, In England I believe that was, where this bunch of 18 year old Americans were getting drunk, some were already outside puking their guts out, .... you know the typical "I never drank before" type scenes, when I went back inside the others were all shouting "USA! USA! USA!"

What's up with that? I don't go around shouting Belgium, Belgium?

Sounds like a group of dumb jocks, or maybe some Naval recruits or something. Anyway, I've lived in the U.S. my entire life, and I've never heard that chanted anywhere other than on TV. The U.S. is a big country - really fucking big - and there are some weird places out there, some of which are relatively isolated. Many parts of the U.S. are about as familiar to me as Mars. It's unfortunate that the actions of some can reflect poorly on everyone else, but at the same time, it's a behavior that's about as alien to me as it is to you. Rest assured that regardless of any weirdos out there, the mainstream Republicans, let alone the rest of the country, are unlikely to nominate the likes of Rick Santorum.

go to any sporting event in NY-Jets/Giants/Mets/Yankees/Rangers/Islanders (not sure if they do it at the Knicks or Nets) and suddenly the drunks will break into a drunken chorus of USA USA USA.
Apparently our drunks are more patriotic than your drunks

[Pandemonium]

go to any sporting event in NY-Jets/Giants/Mets/Yankees/Rangers/Islanders (not sure if they do it at the Knicks or Nets) and suddenly the drunks will break into a drunken chorus of USA USA USA.
Apparently our drunks are more patriotic than your drunks

One of the numerous U2 shows I saw during their final leg of the 2001 tour barely a couple months after 9/11, U2 did this thing where they'd project a scroll of all the people listed as dead (at the time) on the screens while they performed "One" during the encore. During this particular show, I was in a skybox at Staples Arena in LA at the invitation of a client at the time and it was mostly other people from his company there, all who seemed to be young obnoxious office drone drunks. So "One " is playing, and it's the emotional highpoint of the show, and most of these fuckers start chanting "USA! USA! USA!" and leaning over the railing yelling at the people in the skyboxes around us to chant as well ("USA, Motherfuckers!"). Very odd, uncomfortable moment.

[Romeo]

In NY after 9/11 at Met games they started playing "God bless America" before "take me out to the ball game" at the 7th inning stretch. At first it was sort of poignant. Everyone was still shell shocked. Even during the beginning of the 2002 season. I got it.
The mets were the first team to play after 9/11 and that was a emotional game.Everyone was hurting, they brought out some families of the people who were lost. The players were allowed to wear FDNY, NYPD, NYEMT or PAPD hats Plus they did a lot to collect & distribute much needed supplies (water etc) for the first responders working at the site. So I got it


10 years later, soon to be 11 years the playing of god bless America is getting annoying. Not that I am not patriotic but we already stood & took off our hats for the National Anthem to honor the country. I don't need the over kill. So it's god bless America, take me out to the ball game THEN Lazy Mary....

I don't know if this practice is done over at Yankee stadium too.

[farrellgirl99]

In NY after 9/11 at Met games they started playing "God bless America" before "take me out to the ball game" at the 7th inning stretch. At first it was sort of poignant. Everyone was still shell shocked. Even during the beginning of the 2002 season. I got it.
The mets were the first team to play after 9/11 and that was a emotional game.Everyone was hurting, they brought out some families of the people who were lost. The players were allowed to wear FDNY, NYPD, NYEMT or PAPD hats Plus they did a lot to collect & distribute much needed supplies (water etc) for the first responders working at the site. So I got it


10 years later, soon to be 11 years the playing of god bless America is getting annoying. Not that I am not patriotic but we already stood & took off our hats for the National Anthem to honor the country. I don't need the over kill. So it's god bless America, take me out to the ball game THEN Lazy Mary....

I don't know if this practice is done over at Yankee stadium too.

Ugh, they do it at the stadium too. I am so sick of that song. I agree that after 11 years, they really need to retire that, as the national anthem is more than enough.

And it took over Cotton Eye Joe's place and that had to be moved to the 8th

[chaos]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics ... um=twitter

Santorum's 'Obamaville' Ad Warns Of 2nd-Term Horror

Rick Santorum has a not so little problem standing between him and a general-election face-off with President Obama — Mitt Romney.

But that's not stopping the former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania from focusing a new negative ad/movie trailer against the president instead of the former Massachusetts governor whose substantial delegate lead appears to have him and not Santorum headed to the Republican presidential nomination.

The trailer, which previews a video series Santorum's campaign plans to unveil on its website in coming days, depicts a dystopian future where everything bad that can happen does, save for Hunger Games-like fights to the death between teens.

Actually, that's an exaggeration. The future horrors in an Obama second term are all the common GOP bill of particulars against him: high gas prices and jobless rates, the loss of religious freedom, Iranian appeasement, in short the usual suspects.

Still, the music, narration and visuals could have sprung from the mind of Stephen King.

One fascinating moment in the highly produced video comes about 40 seconds in when the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, appears on a TV.

For a split second, the screen flips to Obama then back to the Iranian leader in an attempt to link the two on a subliminal level.

Marketing experts say subliminal messages don't really work, whether it's to sell consumer products or political candidates. But that doesn't stop people from continuing to use the technique.

[Hokahey]

Santorum has zero chance of being the nominee, who will have zero chance of beating Obama.

Unemployment is dipping, and it's near impossible to beat an incumbent not challenged at their convention.

[Hype]

Santorum has zero chance of being the nominee, who will have zero chance of beating Obama.

Unemployment is dipping, and it's near impossible to beat an incumbent not challenged at their convention.

Also, Obama's a damned good president. He's not left-wing enough, but that's okay.

[farrellgirl99]

Santorum has zero chance of being the nominee, who will have zero chance of beating Obama.

Unemployment is dipping, and it's near impossible to beat an incumbent not challenged at their convention.

Also, Obama's a damned good president. He's not left-wing enough, but that's okay.

I agree that Obama has done a great job, I can't believe how much he gets shit on. And of course everyone knows the second term is always more left or right wing, so I'm excited for the possibilities of what could get done if he gets a Democratic congress again.

I'm also terrified of the health care act being repealed, but that's a whole nother topic.

[Hokahey]

Pray tell how Obama has been a great president.

And no copying and pasting from left wing blogs.

Hit reply and spell it out.

[creep]

he hasn't been great or horrible. nothing has happened in four years.

[mockbee]

he hasn't been great or horrible. nothing has happened in four years.

exactly. I can't say that is all his fault though. What the hell is he supposed to do with that circus legislature.

[farrellgirl99]

Pray tell how Obama has been a great president.

And no copying and pasting from left wing blogs.

Hit reply and spell it out.

I'm at work and can't go crazy but the health care law (especially extending coverage to those who are 26 and under and demanding that insurance companies can't use pre existing medical conditions to deny coverage to someone in need), the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, bringing some respect to America again and rebuilding our relationship with foreign countries after the disaster that was George W. Bush, the decision to no longer defend sections of DOMA, killing Osama Bin Laden, ending the Iraq War, and helping in Libya without America soldiers dying.

Just to name a few.

[farrellgirl99]

Pray tell how Obama has been a great president.

And no copying and pasting from left wing blogs.

Hit reply and spell it out.

I'm at work and can't go crazy but the health care law (especially extending coverage to those who are 26 and under and demanding that insurance companies can't use pre existing medical conditions to deny coverage to someone in need), the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, bringing some respect to America again and rebuilding our relationship with foreign countries after the disaster that was George W. Bush, the decision to no longer defend sections of DOMA, killing Osama Bin Laden, ending the Iraq War, and helping in Libya without America soldiers dying.

Just to name a few.

Oh and the economy is in recovery and unemployment has decreased.

Of course there are problems, but considering what he came into, I think he's done a really solid job

[Hokahey]

I had a big response typed out but it's pointless. Most of what Obama has been accomplished he can scant take credit for or it's being overstated. For instance, I don't know too many gay rights advocates pleased with his DOMA record. There was hope for much more.

If your'e a leftist he's done next to nothing to truly advance the ideals you hold dear.

[creep]

I had a big response typed out but it's pointless. Most of what Obama has been accomplished he can scant take credit for or it's being overstated. For instance, I don't know too many gay rights advocates pleased with his DOMA record. There was hope for much more.

If your'e a leftist he's done next to nothing to truly advance the ideals you hold dear.

between romney and obama who would you vote for? you have to pick one.

[farrellgirl99]

I had a big response typed out but it's pointless. Most of what Obama has been accomplished he can scant take credit for or it's being overstated. For instance, I don't know too many gay rights advocates pleased with his DOMA record. There was hope for much more.

If your'e a leftist he's done next to nothing to truly advance the ideals you hold dear.

If you wrote a whole post, you should have posted it. Cause I'd like to know how you can't give him any credit for anything. He is the leader of the country and gets the final say on issues. He obviously has a brain trust/help/luck but that doesn't take away from his administration's successes. And in terms of what he has and has not been able to accomplish, give the guy a break cause he's working with a shit congress. Obama never said he was for the federal legalization of gay marriage, but he has fought for gay equality in terms of benefits.

Yes he broke campaign promises, what politican actually tells the truth? There are things to be disappointed about like his inability to pass effective immigrant legalislation (although the Dream Act was killed by congress). But if you're more conservative you'd have to appreciate how many illegals he has deported (way more than Bush). It's like the guy can't win no matter what he does.

I'm just saying he has accomplished a good amount of things in 4 years. This country is better off than it was in 2008. That's what I care about and that's why I'll vote for him in November. And as I said before, I'm excited for the more liberal legislation he'd be able to pass if he got reelected.

[farrellgirl99]

You'll probably dismiss this as liberal propaganda, but here are some other things Obama has done (that I'm sure he deserves no credit for right? )

http://whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com/

[Hokahey]

I had a big response typed out but it's pointless. Most of what Obama has been accomplished he can scant take credit for or it's being overstated. For instance, I don't know too many gay rights advocates pleased with his DOMA record. There was hope for much more.

If your'e a leftist he's done next to nothing to truly advance the ideals you hold dear.

between romney and obama who would you vote for? you have to pick one.

Obama, because he has a more liberal social agenda.

Economically and regarding foriegn policy they're all the same.

And sorry farrellgirl, I really don't care to spend a bunch of time debating how the stimulus is a long term disaster waiting to happen, unemployment will go back up when the bubble created by the current stimulus bursts, how Obama had little to do with Osama beyond giving the go ahead (the go ahead to illegally invade a soveriegn nation mind you, very dangerous in terms of blowback) etc etc

But I'll give some more highlights:

He only drew down from Iraq (scheduled prior to his election anyway) because Iraq wouldn't grant immunity from their laws to our soldiers when they go on killing sprees. But we're still in another 150+ countries world wide. When do we leave those? When do we stop involving ourselves in the affairs of other nations, killing civilians and creating more and more dislike for us?

His economic policies may be creating SOME short term relief, but they're printing and pumping money backed by NOTHING but more debt in to sectors that have failed repeatedly so that they can fail again and fail harder. Or create new bubbles in new sectors that did not generate the revenue naturally and are therefore more likely to spend unwisely in the long term.

What happened to ending the raids on medical marijuana dispensaries? The policy is unchanged or worse than under Bush.

Don't kid yourself that a few token items, a few tax dollars spent, and the culimination of plans implemented prior to him taking office are some great accomplishments.

[mockbee]

I had a big response typed out but it's pointless. Most of what Obama has been accomplished he can scant take credit for or it's being overstated. For instance, I don't know too many gay rights advocates pleased with his DOMA record. There was hope for much more.

If your'e a leftist he's done next to nothing to truly advance the ideals you hold dear.

between romney and obama who would you vote for? you have to pick one.

Obama, because he has a more liberal social agenda.

Economically and regarding foriegn policy they're all the same.

And sorry farrellgirl, I really don't care to spend a bunch of time debating how the stimulus is a long term disaster waiting to happen, unemployment will go back up when the bubble created by the current stimulus bursts, how Obama had little to do with Osama beyond giving the go ahead (the go ahead to illegally invade a soveriegn nation mind you, very dangerous in terms of blowback) etc etc

But I'll give some more highlights:

He only drew down from Iraq (scheduled prior to his election anyway) because Iraq wouldn't grant immunity from their laws to our soldiers when they go on killing sprees. But we're still in another 150+ countries world wide. When do we leave those? When do we stop involving ourselves in the affairs of other nations, killing civilians and creating more and more dislike for us?

His economic policies may be creating SOME short term relief, but they're printing and pumping money backed by NOTHING but more debt in to sectors that have failed repeatedly so that they can fail again and fail harder. Or create new bubbles in new sectors that did not generate the revenue naturally and are therefore more likely to spend unwisely in the long term.

What happened to ending the raids on medical marijuana dispensaries? The policy is unchanged or worse than under Bush.

Don't kid yourself that a few token items, a few tax dollars spent, and the culimination of plans implemented prior to him taking office are some great accomplishments.

So you essentially agree with this:

he hasn't been great or horrible. nothing has happened in four years. ie status quo

At least he isn't an idiot.

[Hype]

Pray tell how Obama has been a great president.

And no copying and pasting from left wing blogs.

Hit reply and spell it out.

Does this count: http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

My initial comment was just based on a recollection of some important legislation that got passed and his general "tenor" in office (he feels more "presidenty" than Bush ever did...). That latter thing may be superfluous... but I kinda like it anyway. I like knowing the USA has a professor in charge instead of a fratboy legacy dilettante.

[Hokahey]

My initial comment was just based on a recollection of some important legislation that got passed and his general "tenor" in office (he feels more "presidenty" than Bush ever did...). That latter thing may be superfluous... but I kinda like it anyway. I like knowing the USA has a professor in charge instead of a fratboy legacy dilettante.

And I think that's what it boils down to for most people. Him feeling more "presidenty."

Which obviously is not a good reason to declare him a success.

What may not be obvious here is that I like Obama, the man. I voted for him an campaigned for him when I believed in him as a president too.

But over the past few years my beliefs on economic policy have changed, which put me in direct contradiction with his, and from a socially liberal viewpoint he hasn't impressed me at all. Neither has his foreign policy. He's better than Bush in both regards, but that's not saying much when you have someone like Ron Paul that would disngage the military from all unecessary countries and conlflicts, would end the war on drugs, would end federal government intervention in to the lives of homosexuals etc. Things MOST liberals want. You can dsiagree with Paul on his economic policies, but how any liberal wouldn't view him as better than Obama (and Obama a failure) on social and foreign policy is beyond me.

[Hype]

would end federal government intervention in to the lives of homosexuals etc.

But not State! Fuck that!