Romney's Venn Diagrams

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Romney's Venn Diagrams

#1 Post by chaos » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:43 am

I so can't wait for the debates. :lol:

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HOW NOT TO VENN DIAGRAM
by Lisa Wade, 1 day ago at 10:00 am
Mitt Romney’s campaign put out a set of graphics illustrating a “gap” between what Obama promised and what he has delivered. The graphic is in the form of a Venn diagram, a visual designed to show the overlap between two conditions.

Unfortunately, Romney’s overlapping circles are not Venn diagrams, making the campaign somewhat ridiculous and giving nerdy liberals all over America a good chuckle.

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So, there you have it, an example of how not to use Venn diagrams to illustrate your data. :lol:
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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#2 Post by chaos » Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:55 am

http://mittvennandnow.tumblr.com/
HELPING OUT MITT ROMNEY, ONE VENN DIAGRAM AT A TIME.

Mitt Romney's campaign team needs your help. Unable to understand Venn diagrams, they released a series that are in no way coherent. So we started helping them.

They could probably use your help, too. Send us your ideas and we'll get them cranked out so Mitt and his team always have a handy reference for the future.
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That One Where We Don’t Think That Word Means What You Think It Means
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That One Where Logic Takes A Day Off
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That One Where We’re Still Not Sure If Mitt Romney Owns A Gun, Which Is Kind Of Scaring Us A Little.
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That One Where Mitt Romney Appears To Be Having An Existential Crisis.
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That One Where Mitt Romney Is More Developed Than Most Women In DC Comics, Actually.

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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#3 Post by Hype » Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:05 am

THIS is why people need to be taught basic logic earlier. Jesus fucking christ.

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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#4 Post by Juana » Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:34 pm

Adurentibus Spina wrote:THIS is why people need to be taught basic logic earlier. Jesus fucking christ.
Whatever do you mean, then people would make educated choices instead of just listening to their parents.

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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#5 Post by Hype » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:58 pm

Juana wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:THIS is why people need to be taught basic logic earlier. Jesus fucking christ.
Whatever do you mean, then people would make educated choices instead of just listening to their parents.
:lol: It is true that political leanings run in families.

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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#6 Post by Juana » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:03 pm

Yeah a lot of it is where you grow up as well, family and community play a lot into it, especially in the smaller towns.

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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#7 Post by Hype » Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:11 pm

I was just listening to this, this morning: http://rdfrs.com/news_articles/2012/7/5 ... onist-view

When you listen to the people who called in, it's really striking that they don't actually listen to what's being said, and that they don't seem to understand what makes something true. One lady *insists* that all Christians are Creationists, even after the previous caller has just finished saying he's a Christian but isn't a Creationist, and then she says there are FOUR scientists who think Creationism is true... as if that somehow has anything to do with the actual age of the Earth or what she can reasonably believe. Dawkins just patiently keeps insisting that she not take people's words for it, and just read a book for herself. :nod:

It's related to this because I think for most of us (liberal, educated, for the most part), it's hard to understand just how ignorant the average person can be... they will look at those Romney diagrams and not understand what's wrong with them at all, and nor will they be able to be persuaded... they just want to believe what they want to believe. Sadly, most of the time, they don't even know why they want to believe what they want to believe (that's how brainwashing/propaganda works). :cona:

Dawkins also points out that ignorance can be forgiven. But of course, once you've been shown why you're ignorant, continuing to insist that you're not ignorant isn't merely ignorant, but either crazy or stupid.

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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#8 Post by Hokahey » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:41 am

Adurentibus Spina wrote:THIS is why people need to be taught basic logic earlier. Jesus fucking christ.
How would that educate them on the proper construction of a Venn diagram?

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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#9 Post by Hype » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:53 am

hokahey wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:THIS is why people need to be taught basic logic earlier. Jesus fucking christ.
How would that educate them on the proper construction of a Venn diagram?
In Informal Logic classes, they use Venn diagrams to illustrate basic logical concepts, and to help track the validity of informal arguments (like those often given by politicians).

See:
http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/venn_prop.html
http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/syll_venn.html

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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#10 Post by Hokahey » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:02 am

Adurentibus Spina wrote:
hokahey wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:THIS is why people need to be taught basic logic earlier. Jesus fucking christ.
How would that educate them on the proper construction of a Venn diagram?
In Informal Logic classes, they use Venn diagrams to illustrate basic logical concepts, and to help track the validity of informal arguments (like those often given by politicians).

See:
http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/venn_prop.html
http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/syll_venn.html
Ah. Thanks.

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Re: Romney's Venn Diagrams

#11 Post by Hype » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:04 am

hokahey wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:
hokahey wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:THIS is why people need to be taught basic logic earlier. Jesus fucking christ.
How would that educate them on the proper construction of a Venn diagram?
In Informal Logic classes, they use Venn diagrams to illustrate basic logical concepts, and to help track the validity of informal arguments (like those often given by politicians).

See:
http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/venn_prop.html
http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/syll_venn.html
Ah. Thanks.
No prob. Actually, it would be funny to doodle Venn diagrams of claims made while watching Fox News or CNN. :lol:

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