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And Trump for win #812,277!!!!!!!
He has the media so far up his butthole they're probably unearthing cheeseburgers from '87 that are still rotating and crooning IT'S A MAC TONIGHT.....COME ON MAKE IT MAC TONIIIIIIGHT!
I wonder if he just laughs himself to sleep at night.......................?
The worst part is that his stupid adjective game is technically correct, at least for CNN. But he thinks it gives him power. Like, somehow pointing out that CNN has had a ratings problem for a while (compared to FN and MSNBC) makes them less trustworthy? The two things aren't connected. No one is watching Fox News for their high degree of journalistic competence.
I will have to say that Trumps brilliance at media manipulation and persuasion never ceases to amaze me. Truly.
He runs a master class on 21st century persuasion where it counts......
As much as I want to agree with you, Isn't it our, the public's fault? Not having basic human interaction skills and learning how to spot a fraud? We get who we deserve. And we are not a noble people.
I think you make two important statements here.
One: We get who we deserve. - Yes, we do. Trump is not a singularity. He reflects our culture and people. There is definitely an unseemliness to this. Our culture is sick. We are saying, stuff isn't right here. We all KNOW this. Here, obviously, is affirmation of that.
And I would argue, we are all sick in some way. Some people are depressed and suicidal, some people are angry, some people are vengeful, some people are disillusioned or just in total denial. We are all in this boat together. Just right now, the most despicable indication of this condition is showing. We are not currently aware enough to be in the healing mood. Most people, on the left and right, are guilty of this. If we think half the American people (the other half) are despicable people almost worthy of extermination, then we are going down a really bad path.....
Two: We are not a noble people. NO, WE ARE NOT! And we have not been through most all of our history. How could we be any different?! We are American! Now, there are not just bad qualities to not being "noble". Certainly, there are bad qualities, like being racist/ruthless/violent/etc. But, there are good qualities as well. We don't have to lean on our racist past. We are also opportunistic. Opening opportunity for whoever is good. Sure, that can be a noble quality, but it can also be antithesis to people who pride themselves as noble, like many countries in Europe. We are scrappy, and work really hard (natives and immigrants alike), and expect liberty and freedom.
What I am concerned about is that, these good qualities, that can be antithesis of a "nobility" are being hijacked by Trump, and they are being left to rot by the opposition.
No. Please don't believe this. It's wrong. It's a sophistical belief based on generalizing from who you think you and people like you are, and what you and they did. But it completely ignores the many, many citizens who don't deserve it, who couldn't prevent it no matter how hard they tried, and who are suffering and even dying now as a result.We get who we deserve. - Yes, we do.
Sure, no one deserves Trump. I guess, saying in almost the same way, we get who speaks to us. It appears we hear Trump. He's the one to wake up the elites. It would be better to have Warren or Sanders to wake up the elites, just they weren't set for the current media age. The elites are not aware of the suffering. I think you and I do agree there is great suffering. There was suffering before Trump. Capitalism, as it is fashioned now in America, is crushing people, it's not just Trump. I think he speaks/represents the anger of no one listening. That's why Bernie did so well, just didn't quite have it.Hype wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:13 pmNo. Please don't believe this. It's wrong. It's a sophistical belief based on generalizing from who you think you and people like you are, and what you and they did. But it completely ignores the many, many citizens who don't deserve it, who couldn't prevent it no matter how hard they tried, and who are suffering and even dying now as a result.We get who we deserve. - Yes, we do.
SR wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 amI am on the waiting list for the windmill/cancer cell connection.
WRAUOOOOW - WRAUOOOOW - WRAUOOOOW
Don't know if you have seen this, but it's pretty compelling. The cancer shtick is bunk, Trump knows this, but health risks and environmental risks, absolutely! So he gaslights the left. Windfarms should be nowhere near people....
Roger Ebert gave the film 3 out of 4 stars, writing that the film "left me disheartened. I thought wind energy was something I could believe in. This film suggests it's just another corporate flim-flam game." He notes that there is doubtless a legion of wind-power activists and lobbyists who would counter-argue the points made in Windfall, but asks "How many of them live on wind farms?"
FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE PRESIDENT TRUMP’S NEXT OUTBURST WILL BE THE ONE THAT FINALLY BRINGS HIM DOWN. IN FACT, THE EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE: HIS OUTRAGEOUS ANTICS AND WILD LIES ARE HIS BIGGEST STRENGTH.
This may drive you a little crazy. Amanda Carpenter says: That’s the point. Over the years, Trump has developed a winning formula that forces anyone who stands in his way into a discombobulated state of weakness and confusion.
In Gaslighting America, Carpenter breaks down Trump’s playbook, showing why it’s practically foolproof, manipulating all the major players—the Republicans, the Democrats, the media, and the victims of his method—perfectly. She traces how this tactic started with Nixon, gained traction with Bill Clinton, and exploded under Trump.
Carpenter explains that when Trump seizes control over the political narrative, he always follows the same steps. First, he stakes out political territory no one else would dare occupy, taking over the news cycle. Next, he denies responsibility while simultaneously advancing the story. His third step may be his most maddening: he creates suspense for his story by saying more information is coming soon. His fourth step is carefully selecting a detractor to attack, often finding the weakest opponent or someone who will be severely damaged by taking a roll in the mud with him. If he’s successful, and sometimes even when he’s not, he’ll proceed to the fifth step: declaring victory under any circumstance.