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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#741 Post by Artemis » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:56 am

:lol:

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#742 Post by chaos » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:38 pm

The weathergate saga continues . . .

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#743 Post by mockbee » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:54 pm

chaos wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:38 pm
The weathergate saga continues . . .

And Trump for win #812,277!!!!!!!


He has the media so far up his butthole they're probably unearthing cheeseburgers from '87 that are still rotating and crooning IT'S A MAC TONIGHT.....COME ON MAKE IT MAC TONIIIIIIGHT!





I wonder if he just laughs himself to sleep at night.......................? :noclue:



























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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#744 Post by chaos » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:14 am

I just can't . . .


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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#745 Post by Hype » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:48 pm

The worst part is that his stupid adjective game is technically correct, at least for CNN. :confused: But he thinks it gives him power. Like, somehow pointing out that CNN has had a ratings problem for a while (compared to FN and MSNBC) makes them less trustworthy? The two things aren't connected. No one is watching Fox News for their high degree of journalistic competence.

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#746 Post by chaos » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:54 pm

Yes, but this is what he is choosing to tweet about now.

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(Aaaaaannnnd hyphens and apostrophes are not synonymous! That alone should be an impeachable offense. :lol: )

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#747 Post by Artemis » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:57 pm

I feel sorry for all the teachers describing the liddle differences between an apostrophe and a hyphen today’ :lol:

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#748 Post by chaos » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:59 pm

:lol:

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#749 Post by chaos » Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:48 pm

I thought someone hacked DJT's account and pinned this tweet, but apparently he posted it himself. :confused:

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#750 Post by mockbee » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:38 am

chaos wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:48 pm
I thought someone hacked DJT's account and pinned this tweet, but apparently he posted it himself. :confused:


:lol:




I will have to say that Trumps brilliance at media manipulation and persuasion never ceases to amaze me. Truly.

He runs a master class on 21st century persuasion where it counts......

:noclue:

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#751 Post by guysmiley » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:47 am

As much as I want to agree with you, Isn't it our, the public's fault? Not having basic human interaction skills and learning how to spot a fraud? We get who we deserve. And we are not a noble people. :drink:

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#752 Post by chaos » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:53 am

:lol:

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#753 Post by mockbee » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:45 am

guysmiley wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:47 am
As much as I want to agree with you, Isn't it our, the public's fault? Not having basic human interaction skills and learning how to spot a fraud? We get who we deserve. And we are not a noble people. :drink:
I think you make two important statements here.

One: We get who we deserve. - Yes, we do. Trump is not a singularity. He reflects our culture and people. There is definitely an unseemliness to this. Our culture is sick. We are saying, stuff isn't right here. We all KNOW this. Here, obviously, is affirmation of that.
And I would argue, we are all sick in some way. Some people are depressed and suicidal, some people are angry, some people are vengeful, some people are disillusioned or just in total denial. We are all in this boat together. Just right now, the most despicable indication of this condition is showing. We are not currently aware enough to be in the healing mood. Most people, on the left and right, are guilty of this. If we think half the American people (the other half) are despicable people almost worthy of extermination, then we are going down a really bad path.....

Two: We are not a noble people. NO, WE ARE NOT! And we have not been through most all of our history. How could we be any different?! We are American! Now, there are not just bad qualities to not being "noble". Certainly, there are bad qualities, like being racist/ruthless/violent/etc. But, there are good qualities as well. We don't have to lean on our racist past. We are also opportunistic. Opening opportunity for whoever is good. Sure, that can be a noble quality, but it can also be antithesis to people who pride themselves as noble, like many countries in Europe. We are scrappy, and work really hard (natives and immigrants alike), and expect liberty and freedom.

What I am concerned about is that, these good qualities, that can be antithesis of a "nobility" are being hijacked by Trump, and they are being left to rot by the opposition.

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#754 Post by Hype » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:13 pm

We get who we deserve. - Yes, we do.
No. Please don't believe this. It's wrong. It's a sophistical belief based on generalizing from who you think you and people like you are, and what you and they did. But it completely ignores the many, many citizens who don't deserve it, who couldn't prevent it no matter how hard they tried, and who are suffering and even dying now as a result.

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#755 Post by mockbee » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:05 pm

Hype wrote:
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We get who we deserve. - Yes, we do.
No. Please don't believe this. It's wrong. It's a sophistical belief based on generalizing from who you think you and people like you are, and what you and they did. But it completely ignores the many, many citizens who don't deserve it, who couldn't prevent it no matter how hard they tried, and who are suffering and even dying now as a result.
Sure, no one deserves Trump. I guess, saying in almost the same way, we get who speaks to us. It appears we hear Trump. He's the one to wake up the elites. It would be better to have Warren or Sanders to wake up the elites, just they weren't set for the current media age. The elites are not aware of the suffering. I think you and I do agree there is great suffering. There was suffering before Trump. Capitalism, as it is fashioned now in America, is crushing people, it's not just Trump. I think he speaks/represents the anger of no one listening. That's why Bernie did so well, just didn't quite have it.

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#756 Post by chaos » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:26 pm

Twitter has been too funny today. :lol:

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#757 Post by SR » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am

mockbee wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:38 am

I will have to say that Trumps brilliance at media manipulation and persuasion never ceases to amaze me. Truly.

He runs a master class on 21st century persuasion where it counts......

:noclue:
I am on the waiting list for the windmill/cancer cell connection.

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#758 Post by mockbee » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:41 am

SR wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am
mockbee wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:38 am

I will have to say that Trumps brilliance at media manipulation and persuasion never ceases to amaze me. Truly.

He runs a master class on 21st century persuasion where it counts......

:noclue:
I am on the waiting list for the windmill/cancer cell connection.

WRAUOOOOW - WRAUOOOOW - WRAUOOOOW :lol:



Don't know if you have seen this, but it's pretty compelling. The cancer shtick is bunk, Trump knows this, but health risks and environmental risks, absolutely! So he gaslights the left. Windfarms should be nowhere near people.... :noclue:



Roger Ebert gave the film 3 out of 4 stars, writing that the film "left me disheartened. I thought wind energy was something I could believe in. This film suggests it's just another corporate flim-flam game." He notes that there is doubtless a legion of wind-power activists and lobbyists who would counter-argue the points made in Windfall, but asks "How many of them live on wind farms?"[1]

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#759 Post by SR » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:55 am

"Your intellect may be confused, but your emotions will never lie to you."

-Roger Ebert

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#760 Post by mockbee » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:03 am

FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE PRESIDENT TRUMP’S NEXT OUTBURST WILL BE THE ONE THAT FINALLY BRINGS HIM DOWN. IN FACT, THE EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE: HIS OUTRAGEOUS ANTICS AND WILD LIES ARE HIS BIGGEST STRENGTH.

This may drive you a little crazy. Amanda Carpenter says: That’s the point. Over the years, Trump has developed a winning formula that forces anyone who stands in his way into a discombobulated state of weakness and confusion.

In Gaslighting America, Carpenter breaks down Trump’s playbook, showing why it’s practically foolproof, manipulating all the major players—the Republicans, the Democrats, the media, and the victims of his method—perfectly. She traces how this tactic started with Nixon, gained traction with Bill Clinton, and exploded under Trump.

Carpenter explains that when Trump seizes control over the political narrative, he always follows the same steps. First, he stakes out political territory no one else would dare occupy, taking over the news cycle. Next, he denies responsibility while simultaneously advancing the story. His third step may be his most maddening: he creates suspense for his story by saying more information is coming soon. His fourth step is carefully selecting a detractor to attack, often finding the weakest opponent or someone who will be severely damaged by taking a roll in the mud with him. If he’s successful, and sometimes even when he’s not, he’ll proceed to the fifth step: declaring victory under any circumstance.

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#761 Post by SR » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:46 am

He doesn't seize anything; he is gifted it by people who accept lies as truths. But you have the benefit of having read this book; I have not.

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#762 Post by mockbee » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:35 am

Who doesn't accept lies to one degree or another as truth?
:hs:

You, we all, have to. How would anybody make it through the day?! :nod:

We are all guilty of this. And it is not our fault.
:noclue:

Yea, its that degree of truth that counts, but who are the elite to say that the truths of the people who are struggling each day are invalid?

And if we go...what about the racists?! That is exactly where Trump wants you to go. Call 50% or more of the American public racists. That is simply not true.

There are racists for sure, but I would put the figure closer to 15% of the American public who are politically dangerous racists. I dont care about them.
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#763 Post by SR » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:39 am

You win.

Nothing but necessary truths should be relied upon. I was a born male. That's all I know

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#764 Post by mockbee » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:43 am

:lol:

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#765 Post by Hype » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:19 pm

mockbee wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:41 am
SR wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:43 am
mockbee wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:38 am

I will have to say that Trumps brilliance at media manipulation and persuasion never ceases to amaze me. Truly.

He runs a master class on 21st century persuasion where it counts......

:noclue:
I am on the waiting list for the windmill/cancer cell connection.

WRAUOOOOW - WRAUOOOOW - WRAUOOOOW :lol:



Don't know if you have seen this, but it's pretty compelling. The cancer shtick is bunk, Trump knows this, but health risks and environmental risks, absolutely! So he gaslights the left. Windfarms should be nowhere near people.... :noclue:



Roger Ebert gave the film 3 out of 4 stars, writing that the film "left me disheartened. I thought wind energy was something I could believe in. This film suggests it's just another corporate flim-flam game." He notes that there is doubtless a legion of wind-power activists and lobbyists who would counter-argue the points made in Windfall, but asks "How many of them live on wind farms?"[1]
Yeah, so... this is almost entirely BS. There were over 80 windmills on a small island just across from where I used to live. I've been up close around them. They're fine. I know farmers who are going solar, first though, because it's easy for a family to install panels. Much harder to install a personal wind-turbine.

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