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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:05 am
by Pandemonium
I guess Trumps diagnosis puts down next week's debate, maybe the rest of the debates if he gets seriously ill.

As far as how this affects his chances of reelection, I think it can swing either way - if it turns out to be a mild case and he recovers quickly, it could bolster what he's said and many supporters think, that the vast majority of positive cases are not much more then a bad flu, just like Trump has been claiming and could increase his chances of a win next month. On the other hand, if he gets pretty sick and he's down for weeks or even a month plus, he's done - no one is going to vote for a critically ill old guy to run the country.

I'm not gonna be that guy who gloats over "Karma" or whatever and happy he's infected, but it has to be said, everything he's said and done since this began came back to bite him in the ass at the worst possible time for him. He's now become the perfect example of not following simple, logical medical guidelines equals an increased chance you'll eventually catch this shit. Frankly, I'm amazed he went this long before finally testing positive.

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:31 pm
by Mescal
Pandemonium wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:05 am
I guess Trumps diagnosis puts down next week's debate, maybe the rest of the debates if he gets seriously ill.

As far as how this affects his chances of reelection, I think it can swing either way - if it turns out to be a mild case and he recovers quickly, it could bolster what he's said and many supporters think, that the vast majority of positive cases are not much more then a bad flu, just like Trump has been claiming and could increase his chances of a win next month.
This.

Either it's a master move

Or

He's done

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:54 pm
by kevin
:flip: Fuck you bitch! Fuck Trump! Karma 2020! Fuck Trump cult followers! Hope Trump dies from COVID and all his racist little dick cult members go back to their bunkers, white-knuckling their assault rifles in fear of racial equality! Fuck you all!!! Trump can’t even play checkers. You think that lying, bankrupt fraud knows how to play chess? Maybe “chest,” as in sexually assaulting women. Fuck you! :flip:

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:09 pm
by Qweife
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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:32 pm
by Pandemonium
Ha Ha, new guys always bring the most nuanced perspectives.

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:43 pm
by kv
Prob not a new guy

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:17 pm
by mockbee
Not looking good for Trump.


What a weird year...... :noclue:

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:28 am
by clickie
Is this what they mean by voter fraud

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:10 pm
by Pandemonium
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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:17 pm
by mockbee
Whoooppeeeee!

:lolol: :lolol: :lolol: :lolol:


Jesus has risen.
:lol:

:drink:

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:29 am
by Bandit72
I bet you a million pounds it was one big publicity stunt.

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:38 am
by Hype
Bandit72 wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:29 am
I bet you a million pounds it was one big publicity stunt.
I entertained this thought briefly before watching video of him speaking. He was clearly under the weather. And given the number of people now testing positive in the WH, there's no doubt this all happened, and happened precisely because the administration has utterly failed to understand or care about this pandemic.

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:49 pm
by Bandit72
Hype wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:38 am
Bandit72 wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:29 am
I bet you a million pounds it was one big publicity stunt.
I entertained this thought briefly before watching video of him speaking. He was clearly under the weather. And given the number of people now testing positive in the WH, there's no doubt this all happened, and happened precisely because the administration has utterly failed to understand or care about this pandemic.
But you can be “under the weather” for a lot of things. I still believe he’s got a cold and then played on the fact it’s “COVID 19”, re-entered office after 5 days or whatever and started banging on ‘It’s fine’ ‘I’m the greatest president’, ‘don’t worry’....he’s playing you all.

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:48 pm
by mockbee
Yea, very suspiciously convenient...to the day. :noclue:

All the "news" is being packaged and sold in fire sale fashion the last couple weeks/months. Major players/money involved..

The "immunity" thing and "ownership" of COVID is HUUUU-GE. :hehe: :bored:

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:14 am
by mockbee
Does everyone see it? :noclue:

Trump is closing the deal with Americans right now.

I think it's plain as day. Just sayin.... Hopefully it's obvious. :noclue:

He's holding up a gigantic nation sized mirror with his bluster and carnage and all the media is going full ballistic.
Too true....... people vote for emotional reasons..NOT against.....only for......period. :nod:

The 'against vote' were voting against anyways...ie doesn't matter..... :noclue:

I don't love the guy, but his mad persuasion skills are epic.
Foreign policy - no wars - out of middle east - peace deal - China feet to the fire - prison reform....all cool....

Could do without the internal fomenting divisions and madness.....whatever.

So we're clear im definitely NOT voting for Trump



Gonna eat garbage trucks worth of crow if I'm wrong. :lolol:
I won't be. :thumb: :lol:

We'll see won't we..... :blah:

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:14 am
by Pandemonium
I've been wrong regarding Trump in the past (see the first few pages of this thread for example) but I really feel he's done and he's going to get creamed next month in the election. Unfortunately for him, the "October Surprise(s)" have not been in his favor. He may have had a chance leading up to the Covid outbreak in the White House, but that and his handling of it, his awful, off-putting debate performance and now the Right Wing militia group's plot against Michigan Governor Whitmer has to have moved the needle significantly against him for the fence sitters. The mainstream media is totally in lockstep against him at this point daily hammering his massive, easy to criticize deficiencies. The general public is just fatigued to the breaking point from everything that's gone down this year (I know I am) to the point that anything is better then what we have right now.

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:34 am
by mockbee
Pandemonium wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:14 am
I've been wrong regarding Trump in the past (see the first few pages of this thread for example) but I really feel he's done and he's going to get creamed next month in the election. Unfortunately for him, the "October Surprise(s)" have not been in his favor. He may have had a chance leading up to the Covid outbreak in the White House, but that and his handling of it, his awful, off-putting debate performance and now the Right Wing militia group's plot against Michigan Governor Whitmer has to have moved the needle significantly against him for the fence sitters. The mainstream media is totally in lockstep against him at this point daily hammering his massive, easy to criticize deficiencies. The general public is just fatigued to the breaking point from everything that's gone down this year (I know I am) to the point that anything is better then what we have right now.

Totally understand where you're coming from, 4 years ago I'd totally agree. I was shocked too.

Suburbs and countryside here (liberal state) is enthusiastic for Trump. Out everyday on the street corners with signs. Not one Biden sign in the city.

No matter what happens...it'll be epic..... :pop: :thumb:

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:14 pm
by nausearockpig
Here you go. You guys enjoy this. I enjoyed the succinct and factual comments.


Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:25 pm
by mockbee
Well, one thing is for sure, guaranteed.

No matter who wins the election, 20% or more of people are going to have serious mental health problems.....

:noclue:

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:10 pm
by Pandemonium
mockbee wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:25 pm
Well, one thing is for sure, guaranteed.

No matter who wins the election, 20% or more of people are going to have serious mental health problems.....

:noclue:
"Are" going to have....? I think at the very least that number has long ago been exceeded. You're going to get a good taste of just how far gone a huge number of Americans are who will lose their minds when the results of next month's election is finally revealed regardless of which side wins.

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:12 pm
by guysmiley
Pandemonium wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:10 pm
mockbee wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:25 pm
Well, one thing is for sure, guaranteed.

No matter who wins the election, 20% or more of people are going to have serious mental health problems.....

:noclue:
"Are" going to have....? I think at the very least that number has long ago been exceeded. You're going to get a good taste of just how far gone a huge number of Americans are who will lose their minds when the results of next month's election is finally revealed regardless of which side wins.
No doubt. Also the number of people hopped up on pills and meth. Funny( not really). A lack of affordable healthcare really can have consequences.

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:53 pm
by chaos

The Lincoln Project's response:

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:40 pm
by mockbee
Polls are crap?

Yeah....probably....all polls are mostly crap. :scared:

But also polls need to cover their asses when the results completely upend their narrative..... :noclue:

What happened in last week?

50 Cent, Ice T, Kanye.....? who knows ....:noclue:

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:58 pm
by mockbee
So people don't tell the truth to pollsters...? No doubt that happens. 4 years ago was ample evidence.

Why do we pay so much attention to polls?

News doesn't care/can't manage to see what's happening on the ground. Sounds like deja vu all over again to 2016.

This is a real major problem.....there is a complete disconnect between the media and what people are really thinking/feeling. :noclue:
Poll: 2 in 3 voters say it's 'likely' that people lie when taking political surveys
About two in three voters say they think it is likely that a significant number of people are not truthful when responding to political surveys, a new Hill-HarrisX poll finds.

Sixty-six percent of registered voters in the Aug. 29-31 survey said it is either very or somewhat likely that a significant number of people lie when talking political surveys, compared to 34 percent who said it is unlikely.
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The survey found broad agreement across demographic groups over how people approach political surveys, though Democrats in the poll were less likely than Republicans to say that people lie in polls.

Sixty percent of Democratic voters said they think people lie when responding to political surveys, compared to 70 percent of Republican voters and 67 percent of independent voters who said the same.

The survey follows post-convention polling that has shown Democratic nominee Joe Biden maintaining a lead over President Trump nationally, though Trump has seen his numbers tick up in some areas.

Some political observers have questioned whether polls undercount GOP support and if some respondents may not fully reveal their support for Trump when taking a survey, making his support appear lower than in reality.

An Aug. 19-27 study conducted by CloudResearch, an online market research and data collection company, found that roughly 11 percent of Republican voters and 10 percent of independent voters said they would not report their true opinions about their preferred presidential candidate on telephone polls.

Emily Ekins, research fellow and director of polling at the Cato Institute, noted that some differences may also emerge when a person is speaking with a pollster on the telephone compared to completing an online survey.

"People feel social desirability bias where they might lie about certain opinions they might have or who they're going to vote for," Ekins told Hill.TV.

"But a lot of our surveys today are conducted online including this survey and in those cases I think there's a lot less evidence that people are going to be lying about their responses when there's no one else on the other line," she added.

The Hill-HarrisX poll was conducted online among 971 registered voters. It has a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.

—Gabriela Schulte

Re: Donald Trump running for President.

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:44 pm
by Hype
Hype wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:18 am
b) In all total, I have a bet with Hype for $60 for a book from Amazon of one's choice, for: 1) Flat out Biden electoral win, or 2) 46+ state electoral and +55% pop vote for Trump. Also a couple avatar swaps here for a month. Do I really think Trump will get 45+ states, hmmmm....maybe, maybe not. I think I'll survive.
If Trump gets 46+ states, we all lose a lot more than $60. :jasper:
What do I get for a weird drawn out death of American democracy?