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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#961 Post by kv » Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:31 am


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#962 Post by SR » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:56 am

I finally get it.

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#963 Post by kv » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:07 pm

It's just absurd...

If anyone missed the point...it's trumpers rocking out to rage against the machine while waving thin blue line flags...

"Some of those that work forces
Are the same that burn crosses"

"You justify those who died
By wearing the badge
They're the chosen whites"

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#964 Post by chaos » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:58 pm

YES!
So I am understood! :lol:

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#965 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:20 am

kv wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:07 pm
It's just absurd...
Yes, a parody! :nod: :thumb:

:lol:


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#966 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:37 am

Dems would be smart to leave this 'not leaving' talk alone.....

Really. The talk makes him much more poweful. He has much diminished power without the talk.

71+ million people voted for Donald Trump. They didn't vote for an autocrat/dictator. They (vast majority) voted for a President. Was it a prudent vote isn't the question. They (vast majority) voted for a guy who they thought could best lead America.

Do you beleive in your heart that they (TENS of millions of people) Americans voted for Trump because they wanted a Dictator? I do not. If Trump stayed, without constitutional due process they (the majority who voted for him) would not accept that. Some would, who cares about them, not a threat..... :noclue:

That is a serious question. The most serious question we could have as Americans. You think 50% of Americans support a Dictator......? And if they didn't know already, the actions a Dictator would take? Really?
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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#967 Post by kv » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:31 am

Well you should already have your answer...

It's always the same shit...Dems kill babies...trump doesn't (lawl)...so yes...fucking clearly they would follow a god fearing, non baby killing dictator

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#968 Post by mockbee » Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:38 am

what about obama?
Twice.

Also they already got ACB.
Why would Trump/McConnell push it through if they knew it was a vital carrot to get out the vote?

They're not smart?

But....they always seem get what they want.
:bored:

Dems okay with the status quo, I guess.....
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#969 Post by chaos » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:03 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... story.html

Postal worker admits fabricating allegations of ballot tampering, officials say
By Shawn Boburg and Jacob Bogage
November 10, 2020 at 5:59 p.m. EST

A Pennsylvania postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities admitted to U.S. Postal Service investigators that he fabricated the allegations, according to three officials briefed on the investigation and a statement from a House congressional committee.

Richard Hopkins’s claim that a postmaster in Erie, Pa., instructed postal workers to backdate ballots mailed after Election Day was cited by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) in a letter to the Justice Department calling for a federal investigation. Attorney General William P. Barr subsequently authorized federal prosecutors to open probes into credible allegations of voting irregularities and fraud, a reversal of long-standing Justice Department policy.

But on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED.”


Hopkins did not respond to messages seeking comment.

The reversal comes as Trump has refused to concede to President-elect Joe Biden (D), citing unproven allegations about widespread voter fraud in an attempt to swing the results in his favor. Republicans held up Hopkins’s claims as among the most credible because he signed an affidavit swearing that he overheard a supervisor instructing colleagues to backdate ballots mailed after Nov. 3.

The Trump campaign provided that affidavit to *Graham, who in turn asked the Justice Department and FBI to launch an investigation.

The Trump campaign also cited reports of the allegation in a federal lawsuit filed Monday against Pennsylvania election officials that seeks to prevent them from certifying the states’ election results.

The Trump campaign, the Justice Department and Graham did not immediately respond to requests for comment Tuesday.

The Erie postmaster, Rob Weisenbach, called the allegations “100% false” in a Facebook post and said they were made “by an employee that was recently disciplined multiple times.”
“The Erie Post Office did not back date any ballots,” Weisenbach wrote.

The Postal Service inspector general’s office informed members of Congress in a briefing on Tuesday that Hopkins had recanted his allegations, according to a congressional aide. The investigators first interviewed Hopkins on Friday, the aide said.

Hopkins’s allegations, without his name, were first aired last week by Project Veritas, :eyes: an organization that uses deceptive tactics to expose what it says is bias and corruption in the mainstream media. Hopkins agreed to attach his name to the allegations late last week. He was instantly celebrated by Trump supporters.

Project Veritas founder James O’Keefe on Saturday hailed Hopkins as “an American hero” on Twitter. A GoFundMe page created under Hopkins’s name had raised more than $136,000 by Tuesday evening, with donors praising him as a patriot and whistleblower.

“Your donations are going to help me in the case I am wrongfully terminated from my job or I am forced into resigning due to ostrizization [sic] by my co-workers,” the page states. “It will help me get a new start in a place I feel safe and help me with child support until I am able to get settled and get a job.”

Separately, on Monday Project Veritas announced it was offering a “$25,000 reward” for “first hand election fraud tips in Pennsylvania.” Late Tuesday, O’Keefe claimed to have recordings of agents questioning Hopkins and said that he was pressured to sign a document he did not understand.

The Postal Service said in a statement over the weekend that it had referred Hopkins’s allegations to the U.S. Postal Inspection Service and the Office of Inspector General.

The Postal Inspection Service declined to comment on Tuesday morning, referring questions to the Office of Inspector General. A spokeswoman for that office, Agapi Doulaveris, said it was still “looking into the matter” Tuesday afternoon and declined to elaborate.

Hopkins was escorted out of his workplace on Monday afternoon and told not to return until the investigation was completed, according to one of the officials familiar with the probe.

A page on the social networking site LinkedIn that matches Hopkins’s name and other biographical details says he served in the Marine Corps from 2007 to 2012. Hopkins subsequently held numerous jobs for short periods of time, including as a nurse’s aide and as an employee at a hydrologic fracking company in Texas, according to a Facebook profile. The Facebook page says he became a letter carrier in Erie in August 2018.
*Lindsey Graham will continue to be a sycophantic enabler regardless of how foolish he is made to look.

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#970 Post by Artemis » Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:23 pm

This is pretty funny.

I don't think you need an Instagram account ti watch this.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHeHb-3HikG ... FMKaxuT_9M

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#971 Post by chaos » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:09 am

Trump's lawyers just dumped him.

I was surprised this firm was even representing DJT since Don McGahn is one of the partners. McGahn was involved in the Trump campaign and later became White House counsel. His relationship with Trump was fraught with tension. He left in Oct 2018. He did not leave on good terms.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... g-trump-in

Law firm Porter Wright withdraws from representing Trump in Pennsylvania case
BY MORGAN CHALFANT - 11/13/20 09:10 AM EST
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“Plaintiffs and Porter Wright have reached a mutual agreement that Plaintiffs will be best served if Porter Wright withdraws, and current co-counsel and such other counsel as Plaintiffs may choose to engage represent Plaintiffs in this case,” states the memorandum accompanying the motion to withdraw filed Thursday in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania.

The motion does not provide an explanation for the decision. It states that Linda Kerns, another lawyer on the case, will remain on representing the Trump campaign.

The New York Times reported earlier this week that there were internal tensions at the firm, which is based in Columbus, Ohio, related to its work for the Trump campaign in Pennsylvania.

In this particular lawsuit, the Trump campaign sued Pennsylvania’s Democratic secretary of state and seven counties on Monday, alleging that the commonwealth implemented an illegal “two-tiered” system in which voters were held to different standards depending on how they cast ballots. The campaign is seeking to prevent the certification of the states’ election results until the case plays out.
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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#972 Post by chaos » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:18 am

Despite what I think of John Bolton, he can be funny:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-tr ... d=74218239

I don't buy the argument that Donald Trump has hypnotized Republican voters or they're not capable of accepting the truth. This is a myth that's being perpetrated that's simply not true. But it requires people to explain what happened.

The Trump campaign simply has no evidence. Their basic argument is this was a conspiracy so vast and so successful that there's no evidence of it. Now if that's true, I really want to know who the people are who pulled this off. We need to hire them at the CIA.
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#973 Post by Artemis » Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:54 pm

Um, what the fuck is going on down there?? Trump's grand finale before he leaves. I think he's going to off himself before he concedes; though, he is probably too cowardly and his little hands wouldn't be able to tie a noose.

The last time this happened was during the War of 1812 when Canada burned down the White House.

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#974 Post by guysmiley » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:38 pm

*British troops from Canada.

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#975 Post by Mescal » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:58 am

Well done America!

The world is watching

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#976 Post by Bandit72 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:25 am

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#977 Post by kv » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:40 am

:bored:

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#978 Post by mockbee » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:40 am

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Thanks Europe! Glad you're enjoying the show. :bigrin:
Keep watching, its only going to get better....:tiphat: ..... :wink:


Navigating the oldest and longest standing Constitutional goverment in the world is messy. Democracy is a beautiful mess when it truly reckons with itself and attempts to represent, truly represent, a widely divergent cast of characters.

Those rioters who stormed the Capitol and assaulted police officers should be arrested, tried and jailed per our Constitution. And that's that. And they should be cool with that, if they really beleive in the United States of America that they are "fighting to save"

Otherwise, we have bigger fish to fry. 74 million voted for Trump and half of Republicans think the election was fraudulent. They join the, close to half of Democrats, who thought 2016 Hillary's loss was not "legitimate and accurate." We have a legitimacy problem and the media fans the flames and loves it. Clicks.

Meanwhile, a couple hundred marauders are not going to topple the government, unless the people in power decide so..... :essence:

We're still 232 years and going strong... :nod: :rockon:

:flip: :cool:
Altogether, 55% of adults in the United States said they believed the Nov. 3 presidential election was "legitimate and accurate," which is down 7 points from a similar poll that ran shortly after the 2016 election. The 28% who said they thought the election was "the result of illegal voting or election rigging" is up 12 points from four years ago.

The poll showed Republicans were much more likely to be suspicious of Trump's loss this year than Democrats were when Hillary Clinton lost four years ago.

In 2016, 52% of Democrats said Hillary Clinton's loss to Trump was "legitimate and accurate," even as reports emerged of Russian attempts to influence the outcome. This year, only 26% of Republicans said they thought Trump's loss was similarly legitimate.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online, in English, throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 1,346 respondents, including 598 Democrats and 496 Republicans, and has a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of 5 percentage points.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reu ... SKBN27Y1AJ

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#979 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:02 am

Some thoughts after yesterdays events:

Trump crossed a big line the past few weeks culminating in yesterday unquestionably inciting his idiot followers to essentially storm the Capitol to at least interfere with the House's procedures to confirm Biden's win. There were actually some people in full military gear armed with zip-ties roaming the building looking for McConnell, Pence and Pelosi. They weren't looking to shake their hands.

I hear a lot of people whining about how light the initial response was against the protestors/rioters/seditionists was yesterday versus say dispersing the so-called peaceful protest in DC when Trump made his infamous photo op with the bible in front of the church. My response to that is look at the photos of the unarmed woman who was shot and killed by police/secret service after breaking into the Capital building. Second, I think police was put in a bad position having to not escalate the situation, which despite the one woman being shot, eventually was resolved peacefully in just a few hours. Had there been a massive shoot out with casualties, this would have infinitely inflamed the situation that would linger for years to come.

Bad as it was, it could have been infinitely worse, and quite honestly, the worst may yet be to come. There is a lot of extremism on both sides - we've seen it from the fringe Left over last Summer, now we saw what the far Right is capable of.

There is serious talk of a fast track impeachment or even invoking the 25 Amendment to remove Trump. IMO, the only reason it hasn't happened is two reasons:

(1) No one really wants to be a part of, much less have it on the nations historical record that we had to shitcan a sitting President, especially barely 2 weeks before he's out of office. It's already too close to a crappy House Of Cards episode.

(2) You can bet today's events put the fear of God in a good number of politicians with the realization that there actually is a significant enough number of whackos out there ready to attempt to overthrow the government or at least create a lot of chaos. This wasn't faceless internet entities spouting off, this was thousands of bodies pounding on the doors of the Capital right in front of their naked steamin' eyes. Removing Trump especially now would unquestionably add fuel to the fire, confirming to these idiots that the election was "stolen" and I have to believe a lot in Washington are scared shitless of that happening.

I can only guess at what behind the scenes work in progress to somehow minimalize Trump and his influence for the next two weeks until he's legitimately out of office without actually declaring him unfit for office. I wouldn't be surprised if Pence is really minding the store and has the nuke codes now. The challenge after January is going to be how to keep Trump and his merry band of fruitcases going forward the next few years from creating further chaos, especially within the now-severely crippled Republican party.

About the only good thing I think can be taken away from this is those in the highest levels of Washington politics got a taste of the fact they aren't completely isolated and above from the American public in their seat of power.

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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#980 Post by mockbee » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:45 am

Pandemonium wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:02 am
(snip!)

About the only good thing I think can be taken away from this is those in the highest levels of Washington politics got a taste of the fact they aren't completely isolated and above from the American public in their seat of power.

:nod:

(I couldn't say that because it would look like I supported the marauders...i do not....but.....exactly.)


A lot of those elected folks are bastards in there who have no freakin concept of the vast responsibility that is entrusted in them, like really understand, not just say they do.
Having said that, I've been to DC in the halls of Congress myself, even met Pelosi in the hallway while lobbying for an NGO (HabitatFH), and I will say there are a lot of really smart/dedicated politicians as well, who are honestly doing the best job they can under the circumstances.

Big wake up is right. :cool:

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