Republican Debate - August 6th

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#41 Post by mockbee » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:01 am

I only saw the last part of....whatever that was on stage there, but I wouldn't be surprised if Donald Trump's lead in the polls is expanded after the debate.
It's baffling to me that Fox pundits were dismissing him as if he had been exposed.
He says there is no time to say "sorry for calling women pigs because he has a country to fix" and the audience ate it up.

Fox has created a monster and they are not going to be able to get rid of it. Republicans are doomed. He will run third party if Bush gets it.


thank god....and no he hasn't said anything to me that I can remember. :eyes:

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#42 Post by creep » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:34 am

i did think this was funny


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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#43 Post by Artemis » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:02 am

mockbee wrote:

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I think you need to get rid of Harper. :nod:

If I had to guess on those other people and what party they represent, I would say the bearded dude is New Democratic, the woman is Liberal and the young dude Green, and Harper Conservative.


Why do you guys get to have all this nonsense over so quickly?!!!

Elections here are 15 months away and campaigning is in full swing.......
Totally agree about Harper.

You were right about the bearded being NDP, but wrong about the young dude and woman. Young dude is a Liberal (Justin Trudeau, son of former PM, Pierre Trudeau), woman is Elizabeth May for the Greens.

The campaign period is usually less than 2 months, this time the campaign period 11 weeks. I think this is one of the longest in Canadian history.
My Canadian friends can correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason the nonsense goes quickly is because Parliament has to be dissolved before a federal election can be called. The PM will ask the governor general (representative of the Queen) to call an election and the gg will dissolve parliament(shut down the legislature) and announce the federal election. I've really simplified here and may have missed a couple of points. Anyway, all the members of the House of Commons (308) have to campaign to get re-elected, so nobody is actually working in the house during the election period.
In Canada there are strict spending election spending rules too.

How the election all adds up
By the numbers

$73.6 million
Maximum amount 338 candidates from a single political party can spend nation-wide.

60%
Share of candidates’ eligible expenses reimbursed by the public, if they get 10 per cent of the vote.

14.8 million
Number of voters in the last federal election, around 60 per cent of the 24.3 million eligible electors.

$5.14
If a party’s candidates all spend to the maximum limit, it works out to about $5 per voter based on 2011 turnout.

$28.6 million
The maximum amount that candidates for each political party can spend in Ontario ridings alone, the most out of any province
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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#44 Post by Artemis » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:08 am

creep wrote:how is "does god talk to you" even a debate question?

it just makes our country look silly.

from what i have gathered from the debate the biggest threat to our country is planned parenthood.

i'm not sure who won but marco rubio was the worst.
The God question was lame...what a waste of time.

Yeah, I don't understand why planned parenthood is so evil. :noclue:

For me the guys who stood out most, in a good was Ben Carson and Kasich.

The Donald is good for entertainment value, for sure. :lol:

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#45 Post by SR » Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:16 am

And hill's response.....a selfie with Kim and Kanye. :sui:

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#46 Post by Hype » Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:11 am

Artemis wrote:Yeah, I don't understand why planned parenthood is so evil. :noclue:
It's not. It's the opposite. But it's a perfect confluence of fiscal and social conservative bugaboos: it's an easy target for the basic ideology that the federal government shouldn't be funding ANYTHING (except defense, maybe), and for the basic fundamentalist insistence on religio-political control of sexuality, even in the face of evidence that such control(s) produce effects the opposite of the stated aims. It's an extremely effective tool for manipulating emotions since you can make people angry about paying taxes and sad about dead babies and fearful of God's wrath. Those three things are incredibly powerful motivating emotions for a lot of people. It's got nothing to do with reality, or facts, or sensible governance, and everything to do with portraying allegiance to certain kinds of principles and certain sorts of responses to fear-mongering anger-provoking hate-spewing populist idiocy. I can't blame politicians for taking advantage of that. But I can call them idiots if they actual believe it, or enact legislation based on it.

I think we can and should have hope that Elizabeth Warren will make a difference, and that people will vote for a president who will side with her:


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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#47 Post by Romeo » Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:22 am

I should have watched that shit show.

I would like to see the group of men who will be making decisions regarding my uterus


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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#48 Post by mockbee » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:46 am

I am interested to see polling after this meeting of dunces.
I think Fox was A) looking for ratings and B) looking to knock Trump off the frontrunner status and bring the party back to it's familiar glad handing country club base.

Megyn Kelly went out on a limb calling Trump out on his sexism, and Trump only escalated his hyperbole.
Will the conservative public buy what he is selling and throw Kelly under the bus......?
Fox will have lost all control if that is the case and this might actually get interesting, even if he merely maintains his lead. If he tumbles we will have fallen back into the same old political crap and this will truly be a year to forget, because we will not learn where America is really at. There are two Americas, and any hope of reconciliation cannot happen with the status quo. Something needs to blow. :noclue:

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#49 Post by Hype » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:36 am

mockbee wrote:I am interested to see polling after this meeting of dunces.
I think Fox was A) looking for ratings and B) looking to knock Trump off the frontrunner status and bring the party back to it's familiar glad handing country club base.

Megyn Kelly went out on a limb calling Trump out on his sexism, and Trump only escalated his hyperbole.
Will the conservative public buy what he is selling and throw Kelly under the bus......?
Fox will have lost all control if that is the case and this might actually get interesting, even if he merely maintains his lead. If he tumbles we will have fallen back into the same old political crap and this will truly be a year to forget, because we will not learn where America is really at. There are two Americas, and any hope of reconciliation cannot happen with the status quo. Something needs to blow. :noclue:
I feel like we should be bracing for someone along the lines of Jimmy Carter, or the first George Bush... a kind of shitty one-term stand-in until someone with more energy and vision comes along.

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#50 Post by mockbee » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:11 am

Adurentibus Spina wrote:
I feel like we should be bracing for someone along the lines of Jimmy Carter, or the first George Bush... a kind of shitty one-term stand-in until someone with more energy and vision comes along.
Are you referring to Hillary or, well, who is the most "moderate"..... Jeb!?, gets in, and then wait. And then the American general public will get a clue somehow? :noclue:

I think you have too much optimism....... :wavesad:

We have a good third of the country, approaching 60% in the middle of the country, who thinks unequivocally that Obama is a socialist. :neutral:

How are we supposed to come back from that? :no:

We are going further and further into a paradigm of anti-intellectualism pitting the poor against the poor and blaming it on the poor, all while the chasm between rich and poor expands at a shocking rate. How do you get the poor on board with the progressives? :noclue:

The politicians/figures of the left that you have espoused in the past are from/fermented in solidly blue states, would have no impact in 3/4 of the country. We have a solidly Republican Congress (House and Senate) and it isn't changing anytime soon. Those dopes on stage last night aren't even extreme enough for the majority republican base.......

I am as baffled as anyone else about the state of affairs. :bored:

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#51 Post by Romeo » Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:03 pm

HW Bush I worked for Planned Parenthood during his 1 term, didn't get a raise for 3 years because of cut funds
GW Bush I lost 50G's from a money market account when the stock market crashed which I couldn't recover. He literally broke me.

If Jeb gets elected you might as well take out a gun and shoot me. I couldn't imagine what another Bush would do to me finacially

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#52 Post by Hype » Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:42 pm

Romeo wrote:HW Bush I worked for Planned Parenthood during his 1 term, didn't get a raise for 3 years because of cut funds
GW Bush I lost 50G's from a money market account when the stock market crashed which I couldn't recover. He literally broke me.

If Jeb gets elected you might as well take out a gun and shoot me. I couldn't imagine what another Bush would do to me finacially
Agreed. It will be terrible. Not just for you, but for the millions of young and poor and indebted people...

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#53 Post by mockbee » Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:54 pm

Fox News’s telecast of Thursday night’s Republican debate drew 23.9 million viewers, making it the highest-rated program ever for Fox News and among the most-viewed events in cable TV history.

The debate smashed previous records for primary debates and is the ninth-most-viewed cable program ever, according to Nielsen. The top eight were college football games broadcast on ESPN.

The raucous debate featured 10 presidential candidates, with Donald J. Trump, the Republican candidate leading in the polls, drawing the most airtime and providing some of the night’s most memorable moments. The Fox News moderators, Chris Wallace, Megyn Kelly and Bret Baier, were pointed in their questions and drew praise for the performance, helping to lead the way for two hours of spirited television.

Thursday’s debate significantly beat the viewership of the first Republican debate in 2011, which drew 3.2 million viewers.

Wooooooooooooooow..............! :yikes:

Well..........people are paying attention............ i don't know if that is a good or a bad thing. :scared:

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#54 Post by Matz » Fri Aug 07, 2015 3:43 pm

the Trump effect

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#55 Post by kv » Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:16 pm

Romeo wrote:I should have watched that shit show.

I would like to see the group of men who will be making decisions regarding my uterus


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They aren't they are making decisions about the uterus/penis inside your uterus

(don't go off on me I'm pro choice)

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#56 Post by kv » Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:18 pm

Matz wrote:the Trump effect
Yep trump is doing good...he's an idiot but he is doing good


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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#58 Post by mockbee » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:49 am

.........what took them so long? :crazy:

Republican party is severely divided and screwed.


Poll numbers after this will be very illuminating....... not for who is likely to win, but what the hell will Americans put up with? If Trump is still leading Fox and the establishment is a rudderless ship, like a Titanic sized rudderless ship. That's what happens when you have people at the helm who could care less about facts and reasoned debate. Not saying the "liberal" media is the gold standard, but this has been a long time in coming.


Hillary Clinton is your next US President.

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#59 Post by Matz » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:58 am

why aren't those poll numbers out long ago, like 8 hours after the debate... :confused: in this day and age it seems weird

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#60 Post by mockbee » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:07 am

Matz wrote:why aren't those poll numbers out long ago, like 8 hours after the debate... :confused: in this day and age it seems weird

Not if Fox doesn't like the poll numbers........? :noclue:

I don't know, that's what I was thinking as well.

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#61 Post by Matz » Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:15 pm

what do you mean? I'm pretty sure Fox haven't monopolized polling

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#63 Post by mockbee » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:58 pm

Matz wrote:what do you mean? I'm pretty sure Fox haven't monopolized polling

Polls don't happen everyday. :noclue:

And if there was immediate polling taking place, it would have most likely been done by Fox in conjunction with the debate.

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#64 Post by Romeo » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:18 pm

kv wrote:
Romeo wrote:I should have watched that shit show.

I would like to see the group of men who will be making decisions regarding my uterus


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They aren't they are making decisions about the uterus/penis inside your uterus

(don't go off on me I'm pro choice)
they sure as shit have plenty to say regarding Women's Healthcare (re: Planned Parenthood) and right to choose.
And I always love Rand Paul's "As a Doctor...." He's a fucking ophthalmologist. How many uterus's is he looking at.

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Re: Republican Debate - August 6th

#65 Post by Hype » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:18 pm

Romeo wrote:
kv wrote:
Romeo wrote:I should have watched that shit show.

I would like to see the group of men who will be making decisions regarding my uterus


:sui:
They aren't they are making decisions about the uterus/penis inside your uterus

(don't go off on me I'm pro choice)
they sure as shit have plenty to say regarding Women's Healthcare (re: Planned Parenthood) and right to choose.
And I always love Rand Paul's "As a Doctor...." He's a fucking ophthalmologist. How many uterus's is he looking at.
What... you never had ocular vaginosis?!

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