After Trump, AOC will be our next president in 2024
If Bernie doesn't do it. AOC will come out guns blazing and finally destroy this oblivious Democratic Party, progressives AND people out in the sticks will love her...
We're going full Socialist people, I don't see a middle ground happening.....
(I dont necessarily have a problem with this, just will be critical how it actually plays out.....)
I don't know who will end up with the most delegates, but I doubt it will be Bernie. Biden will probably end up dropping out after South Carolina because he is low on funds. More people will end up dropping out after Super Tuesday. After that, In the months leading up the Democratic Convention, I have a feeling people will start to coalesce around a more moderate democrat (whoever is left standing).
It will end up being Bloomberg. The question I am wondering is will Bernie’s army vote for trump or just stay home. Prediction 1: at least half of that army will vote for trump to spite the d party. But they are young and likely wouldn’t show up in droves anyway.
Prediction 2: the debates this fall will be a contest over who objectifies women less— b or t.
In some ways Bloomberg would be worse than Trump. He's a fake democrat who orchestrated Stop & Frisk in NYC, believes all kinds of regressive shit about minorities, and owns a vast media empire that he is using, and could continue to use, to maintain power. Bloomberg, that is, would be closer to Putin than Trump could ever imagine. He's also way smarter than Trump... which makes him even more dangerous. Even if he focuses on traditional centrist democratic policy and commits to selling his business interests if he's elected, as he said he would, it's still almost certainly a terrible idea to elect yet another billionaire who bought the presidency.
At some point there has to be some kind of legislative reckoning on the disconnect between the seemingly democratic election of these non-traditional ultrawealthy candidates and the democratic institutions they seem intent on destroying. We've known since Plato that the inherent threat of democracy is that it so easily devolves into tyranny. Trump's control of the judicial branch, and the Senate's role in allowing that, is showing precisely how that can happen.
I think Bloomberg will fade pretty quickly (come back to earth with 7-8% support) after the debate and some "real" campaigning. Watching him in early 2000s debate is a pretty dry and uninspiring affair. Also he is short, deal breaker for a ton of people. He can't just ride on the coattails of his bought connections, the real deal has to come out at some point.
People are just desperate at the moment.
I agree Bloomberg would likely be worse than Trump. He has WAY more wealth and connections to leverage wealth. Trump is actually "poor" in that respect. His wealth is just slimy and continues a bad precedent, not groundbreaking penetrative like Bloomberg's wealth. He is really really rich and connected...
Bloomberg would be worse. He has some decent adds that are effectively lulling.
If the choice is Trump vs. Bloomberg, probably Bloomberg would be better for the future of the nation, since he doesn't seem to have the same unfettered, stupid, authoritarian streak Trump does. Plus it would avoid emboldening the worst elements of the Republican party into thinking the destructive party could continue. But of course as you suggest, the worry is that Bloomberg is ultimately likely to lose to Trump.
I think Bernie is not likely to win against Trump either, though. And I still think, as I always have, that any woman would have a hard time against Trump because the American electorate still contains a large and unchecked misogynist element (in exactly the same way it contains a height bias; even though Clinton received more votes than Trump, these were regionally locked in precisely the way you'd expect given widespread misogyny outside of coastal cities).
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