The death rate thing is weird, right? You'd expect to see a strange spike in deaths in nursing homes back then. But, maybe part of the problem is that people are always dying in nursing homes so unless you're testing why, it might be hard to know, especially with the two-week incubation period.
And yeah, just randomness seems to be playing a big part....
List of incorporated cities in the United States with over 75,000 residents
1. Rank
2. Incorporated place
3. Metropolitan area
4. State
5. Population
(2010 census)
6. Land area
(mi2)
7. Land area
(approximate km2)
8. Population density
(people per mi2)
9. Population density
(approximate
people per km2)
1 New York City New York City New York 8,175,133 302.6 783.73 27,016.3 10,431.1
2 Somerville Boston Massachusetts 75,754 4.11 10.65 18,431.6 7,116.5
3 Paterson New York City New Jersey 146,199 8.44 21.86 17,322.2 6,688.1
4 San Francisco San Francisco California 805,235 46.69 120.93 17,246.4 6,658.9
5 Cambridge Boston Massachusetts 105,162 6.43 16.65 16,354.9 6,314.7
6 Jersey City New York City New Jersey 240,055 14.92 38.64 16,093.7 6,212.2
7 Cicero Chicago Illinois 85,616 5.85 15.15 14,645.2 5,650.7
8 Hawthorne Los Angeles California 84,112 6.06 15.70 13,879.4 5,359.0
9 Daly City San Francisco California 103,621 7.56 19.58 13,703.8 5,292.1
10 Boston Boston Massachusetts 645,149 48.43 125.43 13,321.0 5,143.4
11 South Gate Los Angeles California 96,375 7.37 19.09 13,084.6 5,048.9
12 Santa Ana Los Angeles California 337,977 27.14 70.29 12,451.9 4,808.2
13 Bellflower Los Angeles California 76,616 6.07 15.72 12,416.7 4,794.1
14 Inglewood Los Angeles California 109,673 9.14 23.67 12,323.6 4,632.9
15 El Monte Los Angeles California 115,965 9.55 24.73 12,139.5 4,688.4
16 Chicago Chicago Illinois 2,695,598 227.13 588.26 11,868.0 4,582.3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... on_density
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/us/c ... -care.html
The first positive coronavirus tests from Life Care Center in Kirkland, Wash., came on Feb. 28.
The Coronavirus’s Rampage Through a Suburban Nursing Home
Two-thirds of Life Care Center’s residents and 47 of its workers fell ill. Thirty-five people died. We investigated what went wrong.
The first positive coronavirus tests from Life Care Center in Kirkland, Wash., came on Feb. 28.Credit...Grant Hindsley for The New York Times
By Jack Healy and Serge F. Kovaleski
Yeah, that's another thing....CA (at least what I experienced when living there for a decade) are more or less "rule" followers, or, it's hard to explain, but a civil duty/respect thing with governing bodies (State Parks/City/Neighborhood groups/community meetings/up to date on Policies....etc....) Big into it.
That is strange, I felt that way too. I had REALLY bad allergy type sympoms last month, like watery eyes and irritated throat, etc. congestion, dry skin.... I usually don't have such a stong reaction to "Spring"....don't know if it was random or what, but it was something I hadnt experienced before.....Artemis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:58 pmIn the fall, I got a flu shot for the first time ever, don't know if that's helped a little. I too had a cold during the holiday season, like Christmas Eve or so, I suddenly had a super sore throat and dry cough. No difficulty breathing or anything, but was feverish and felt knocked out for a couple of days.
The density thing is weird. I think it depends on what, and where, exactly you measure. E.g., https://la.curbed.com/2012/3/26/1038508 ... -in-the-usmockbee wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:55 pm
List of incorporated cities in the United States with over 75,000 residents
1. Rank
2. Incorporated place
3. Metropolitan area
4. State
5. Population
(2010 census)
6. Land area
(mi2)
7. Land area
(approximate km2)
8. Population density
(people per mi2)
9. Population density
(approximate
people per km2)
1 New York City New York City New York 8,175,133 302.6 783.73 27,016.3 10,431.1
2 Somerville Boston Massachusetts 75,754 4.11 10.65 18,431.6 7,116.5
3 Paterson New York City New Jersey 146,199 8.44 21.86 17,322.2 6,688.1
4 San Francisco San Francisco California 805,235 46.69 120.93 17,246.4 6,658.9
5 Cambridge Boston Massachusetts 105,162 6.43 16.65 16,354.9 6,314.7
6 Jersey City New York City New Jersey 240,055 14.92 38.64 16,093.7 6,212.2
7 Cicero Chicago Illinois 85,616 5.85 15.15 14,645.2 5,650.7
8 Hawthorne Los Angeles California 84,112 6.06 15.70 13,879.4 5,359.0
9 Daly City San Francisco California 103,621 7.56 19.58 13,703.8 5,292.1
10 Boston Boston Massachusetts 645,149 48.43 125.43 13,321.0 5,143.4
11 South Gate Los Angeles California 96,375 7.37 19.09 13,084.6 5,048.9
12 Santa Ana Los Angeles California 337,977 27.14 70.29 12,451.9 4,808.2
13 Bellflower Los Angeles California 76,616 6.07 15.72 12,416.7 4,794.1
14 Inglewood Los Angeles California 109,673 9.14 23.67 12,323.6 4,632.9
15 El Monte Los Angeles California 115,965 9.55 24.73 12,139.5 4,688.4
16 Chicago Chicago Illinois 2,695,598 227.13 588.26 11,868.0 4,582.3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... on_density
Yeah, we here in California were among the first states to close down non-essential businesses almost a month ago. As it's been mentioned, the fact even downtown LA and San Francisco are no where near as densely packed as NYC is undoubtedly a big factor in why there's such a huge difference in the number of cases. Add to that, here in SoCal, we've had the rainiest past month in half a century which has been a big factor keeping a big percentage of people indoors much of the past month. As seen on local and national news, we've had a number of the population still act stupidly congregating in public places on the few nice weekends the past month and big places like grocery stores, etc that are still open are a problem as far as "social distancing" is concerned, but it's gradually getting more manageable. Yesterday, LA Mayor Garcetti extended the stay at home regulations until May 15th which I think is going to be a problem as we finally start having better, more typically warm, sunny weather.Artemis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:58 pmI also read that some California cities like San Francisco started lockdown/ quarantine measures sooner than NY.
In the fall, I got a flu shot for the first time ever, don't know if that's helped a little. I too had a cold during the holiday season, like Christmas Eve or so, I suddenly had a super sore throat and dry cough. No difficulty breathing or anything, but was feverish and felt knocked out for a couple of days.
You can't seriously believe that. A largely state-driven (NOT federal) authoritarian response to a worldwide pandemic that happens to involve trying to stave off a depression is absolutely not even close to anything Bernie Sanders endorsed.Bernie Sanders model of socialism yet we're now going to get a firsthand look at how it works
IMO, Amazon has really shit the bed through this crisis. They are supposed to be getting and shipping the “necessities” but good luck finding any of that stuff actually in stock. Meanwhile, even Prime members have wait times up to a month for anything else. I’ve actually found eBay sellers are the best, fastest way to get things - the USPS is still moving packages at near-normal speed. The only thing you need to be careful with eBay sellers is those that are actually shipping from China but indicate they are based in the US. Always check feedback before bidding or buying.
"‘Laverne and Shirley’ Animated Opening Theme Tribute to Ohio Governor Mike DeWine and Dr. Amy Acton
Dave Stofka of Stofka Creative created a wonderful animated tribute that stars Ohio Governor Mike DeWine and Dr. Amy Acton, the loveable duo who provide daily press briefings on the current situation. Stofka used “Making Our Dreams Come True”, the iconic theme song from Laverne and Shirley, updating the lyrics to reflect how they are keeping Ohioans safe during this very trying time in history.
The strong leadership he and his team have provided since early on in the crisis has earned international attention and acclaim and looks to have benefited Ohio with lower case numbers and more tempered strain on the medical system than expected. But until now his extremely popular press conferences have never had a theme song.
Wow. That’s really powerful, somehow.Artemis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:53 pmI don't remember if I've mentioned this but my mother had her 3rd fall back in November-not breaks or fractures-and spent a week in the hospital followed by two months in a rehab hospital. Prior to her release I was seriously looking into a long-term/ nursing home or assisted living facility because I didn't feel it was safe for her to return to her house. My mother refused but agreed to more in-home help and changes in her house, such as making the living room into a bedroom to minimize using the stairs. Anyway, I can't help thinking that if she'd gone to one of these facilities she may have contracted the virus. She's in the high risk group- over 80, had a stroke, high blood pressure.
An added kick in the nuts, it looks like the water line that runs in the wall behind the kitchen sink area cracked or something, our kitchen flooded ruining the flooring in the kitchen and laundry room. A similar thing happened around 2011 and we had to live in a hotel for almost 6 month while everything was fixed.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:08 amMy wife was let go today. Her company is likely going to file bankruptcy.
Really sorry to hear this Panda, I'm hoping you all find a way to pull through this.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:35 pmAn added kick in the nuts, it looks like the water line that runs in the wall behind the kitchen sink area cracked or something, our kitchen flooded ruining the flooring in the kitchen and laundry room. A similar thing happened around 2011 and we had to live in a hotel for almost 6 month while everything was fixed.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:08 amMy wife was let go today. Her company is likely going to file bankruptcy.
Oh, fucking ouch. Are you sorting through the EDD relief measures? And I hope your insurance acts quickly; they might as they are so used to saying no to biz interruption claims.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:35 pmAn added kick in the nuts, it looks like the water line that runs in the wall behind the kitchen sink area cracked or something, our kitchen flooded ruining the flooring in the kitchen and laundry room. A similar thing happened around 2011 and we had to live in a hotel for almost 6 month while everything was fixed.Pandemonium wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:08 amMy wife was let go today. Her company is likely going to file bankruptcy.
California, Oregon & Washington Announce Western States Pact
West Coast states agree region will move toward reopening based on health outcomes
SACRAMENTO — Today, California Governor Gavin Newsom, Oregon Governor Kate Brown and Washington Governor Jay Inslee announced an agreement on a shared vision for reopening their economies and controlling COVID-19 into the future.
Joint statement from the Governors:
COVID-19 has preyed upon our interconnectedness. In the coming weeks, the West Coast will flip the script on COVID-19 – with our states acting in close coordination and collaboration to ensure the virus can never spread wildly in our communities.
We are announcing that California, Oregon and Washington have agreed to work together on a shared approach for reopening our economies – one that identifies clear indicators for communities to restart public life and business.
While each state is building a state-specific plan, our states have agreed to the following principles as we build out a West Coast framework:
–Our residents’ health comes first. As home to one in six Americans and gateway to the rest of the world, the West Coast has an outsized stake in controlling and ultimately defeating COVID-19.
–Health outcomes and science – not politics – will guide these decisions. Modifications to our states’ stay at home orders must be made based off our understanding of the total health impacts of COVID-19, including: the direct impact of the disease on our communities; the health impact of measures introduced to control the spread in communities —particularly felt by those already experiencing social disadvantage prior to COVID-19; and our health care systems’ ability to ensure care for those who may become sick with COVID-19 and other conditions. This effort will be guided by data. We need to see a decline in the rate of spread of the virus before large-scale reopening, and we will be working in coordination to identify the best metrics to guide this.
–Our states will only be effective by working together. Each state will work with its local leaders and communities within its borders to understand what’s happening on the ground and adhere to our agreed upon approach.
Through quick and decisive action, each of our states has made significant progress in flattening the curve and slowing the spread of COVID-19 among the broader public. Now, our public health leaders will focus on four goals that will be critical for controlling the virus in the future.
Protecting vulnerable populations at risk for severe disease if infected. This includes a concerted effort to prevent and fight outbreaks in nursing homes and other long-term care facilities.
Ensuring an ability to care for those who may become sick with COVID-19 and other conditions. This will require adequate hospital surge capacity and supplies of personal protective equipment.
Mitigating the non-direct COVID-19 health impacts, particularly on disadvantaged communities.
Protecting the general public by ensuring any successful lifting of interventions includes the development of a system for testing, tracking and isolating. The states will work together to share best practices.
COVID-19 doesn’t follow state or national boundaries. It will take every level of government, working together, and a full picture of what’s happening on the ground.
In the coming days the governors, their staff and health officials will continue conversations about this regional pact to recovery.
