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Re: Coronavirus

#1026 Post by Artemis » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:14 pm

Finally, got my 2nd dose this morning. I got Moderna, my first was Pfizer. Seems to be a bit of Pfizer supply issue at the moment and the supply that we do have is for 12-17 yr olds.


As of 8 p.m. Friday, 16,827,434 COVID-19 vaccine doses had been administered in Ontario, marking an increase of 207,507. Of those, 186,664 were second doses.

More than 79 per cent of adults aged 18-plus in Ontario have received at least one vaccine dose and 54 per cent are fully vaccinated.
6.7 million fully vaxxed. :rockon:

Stage 3 reopening starting July 16th. Things like movie theatres, sporting events, gyms, museums, galleries

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Re: Coronavirus

#1027 Post by mockbee » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:09 pm

Projected cases twice as bad as the worst of it in november...

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :balls:

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Medical experts now know that the Delta variant of COVID-19 creates a larger viral load in our systems and the virus stays in our systems longer. This means it’s far more contagious.

Today, Oregon smashed its previous record for hospitalizations due to the virus with 635 people in hospitals across the state. The previous record was 584 last November. We are on pace to exceed the number of available hospital beds in the state by around 500 patients by early September, per OHSU projections.

This means our hospital capacity is as low as it’s ever been. While this is a risk for COVID patients, it’s also an enormous risk for other Oregonians who are sick or need surgery but won’t have access to a hospital bed.

If you are unvaccinated, please get vaccinated as quickly as possible. Vaccines are safe, effective and widely available. While it’s discouraging to see some breakthrough cases, vaccinated people are still much less likely to get severely ill or die. The CDC noted this week that 99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly COVID-19 breakthrough case.

Vaccines are also the best way to prevent the growth of a new variant that may be stronger than Delta. Let’s all commit to stopping the next variant!

While this news is certainly distressing, let’s remember that we’ve successfully flattened the curve four times. Now, we do it again.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1028 Post by guysmiley » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:49 am

I was finally eligible to get a first dose last Monday. My wife got both. We've been very slow in Japan.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1029 Post by guysmiley » Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:59 am

Everyone ready for a third shot in eight months? Guess it will be announced today.... :nyrexall:

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Re: Coronavirus

#1030 Post by Hokahey » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:15 am

guysmiley wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:59 am
Everyone ready for a third shot in eight months? Guess it will be announced today.... :nyrexall:
I'll take one monthly if necessary. IDGAF

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Re: Coronavirus

#1031 Post by mockbee » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:29 am

2042........... Yipeeeee!... Zeta variant! :noclue:

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Re: Coronavirus

#1032 Post by Hokahey » Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:45 pm

mockbee wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:29 am
2042........... Yipeeeee!... Zeta variant! :noclue:

:eyes: :lol:
There are experts that think Delta is as "fit" as this virus can get, and that this is the final big wave before its endemic. Let's hope they're right.

I know the R number (#of people each infected person goes to infect) has fallen below 1 in much of the US, especially the South, signaling the plateauing or even decline of cases.

So there is reason for cautious optimism. At best, re-infection is rare and boosters stop breakthroughs. At worst, it truly becomes "just like the flu" and becomes a similarly regular part of life without dramatic concern.

Hopefully.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1033 Post by Artemis » Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:36 pm

Cases are going up again here too. Today Ontario had 531 new cases. Of those, 456 are unvaccinated, 75 were fully vaccinated.

To date , 74% of people in the province 12 and older are fully vaccinated.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1034 Post by Juana » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:24 pm

Hospitals are all almost full here across the state, running out of ventilators and this motherfucker is just trying to take the big money from his donors and abusing his power. I just want to wheel his ass into a lake.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... pjCewu3P0U

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Re: Coronavirus

#1035 Post by Bandit72 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:54 am

My mum went into hospital with COVID yesterday. She was fully vaccinated. Her initial symptoms were very mild, but then got more severe. Alas, she is in the 70+ age category, where the majority is going to suffer. She seems to be doing OK though. My dad also contracted it but has come through unscathed. He is 83.

The government here is to push for 12-15 year olds getting vaccinated (wtf? :banghead: ) even though every single medical journal has advised that COVIS vaccines are NOT recommended for healthy children. They were even stating that 12 year olds didn't need parental consent! Errrrrrr, what the actual..? :lol:

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Re: Coronavirus

#1036 Post by Hokahey » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:20 am

Bandit72 wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:54 am
My mum went into hospital with COVID yesterday. She was fully vaccinated. Her initial symptoms were very mild, but then got more severe. Alas, she is in the 70+ age category, where the majority is going to suffer. She seems to be doing OK though. My dad also contracted it but has come through unscathed. He is 83.

The government here is to push for 12-15 year olds getting vaccinated (wtf? :banghead: ) even though every single medical journal has advised that COVIS vaccines are NOT recommended for healthy children. They were even stating that 12 year olds didn't need parental consent! Errrrrrr, what the actual..? :lol:
Why would it not be recommended for healthy 12-15 year olds? First I've ever heard that.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1037 Post by Bandit72 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:44 am

Because something like 99.6% of the time healthy children who contract Covid have a very mild case if at all any. There is more chance of them having major side effects from the jab than it being of any use.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58438669

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-adv ... 021-09-03/

Serious illness and death hits the elderly.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... ths-by-age

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Re: Coronavirus

#1038 Post by Hokahey » Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:31 pm

Bandit72 wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:44 am
Because something like 99.6% of the time healthy children who contract Covid have a very mild case if at all any. There is more chance of them having major side effects from the jab than it being of any use.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58438669

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-adv ... 021-09-03/

Serious illness and death hits the elderly.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... ths-by-age
I'm very familiar with the statistics. It's not that it's not recommended, but not a priority. Big difference. Regardless, my 13 year old is vaccinated and my 4 year old will be the moment it's available.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1039 Post by kv » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:45 pm

I'm so confused full on holiday...full stadiums life is normal...1000 a day dying of covid....did the gov just give up? Never gonna hit herd fuck it? Strange times...

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Re: Coronavirus

#1040 Post by Hokahey » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:25 pm

kv wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:45 pm
I'm so confused full on holiday...full stadiums life is normal...1000 a day dying of covid....did the gov just give up? Never gonna hit herd fuck it? Strange times...
I don't know what the alternative is. There are vaccines available. Some estimates have 30% of the US as having already had covid, with re-infection rare (so far).

Vaccinated people aren't the ones dying en masse. I get that we want to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed, but where's the balance? It's like there are sharks in the water, we have shark repellent, but we're worried about letting anyone swim at all because of the assholes that refuse to use it. I mean, at some point...

Additionally, a lot of experts think two things:

1. Delta is receding in the areas where it first hit (like my State, Missouri, where numbers are definitely trending down).

2. This is never going away. There is no herd immunity. It will become endemic, and we will be dealing with it forever. But, as we continue opportunity for boosters, develop more treatments, and re-infections are milder, it will not be the show stopper it was. And if we're really lucky, it will mutate in to something far less harmful. But covid-19 isn't going to just disappear.

So at some point, people have to have the opportunity to live. There were only 2-300 estimated covid cases to come out of Lollapalooza. Remember when everyone was losing their minds about it?

We can have a "new normal" where we live life again with risk mitigation factored in. But we'll probably never be totally risk free.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1041 Post by Bandit72 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:21 am

Hokahey wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:31 pm
Bandit72 wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:44 am
Because something like 99.6% of the time healthy children who contract Covid have a very mild case if at all any. There is more chance of them having major side effects from the jab than it being of any use.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58438669

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-adv ... 021-09-03/

Serious illness and death hits the elderly.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... ths-by-age
I'm very familiar with the statistics. It's not that it's not recommended, but not a priority. Big difference. Regardless, my 13 year old is vaccinated and my 4 year old will be the moment it's available.
For something that causes marginal illness I would say the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy children. Whatever you think is best.

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#1042 Post by Hokahey » Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:07 am

Bandit72 wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:21 am
Hokahey wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:31 pm
Bandit72 wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:44 am
Because something like 99.6% of the time healthy children who contract Covid have a very mild case if at all any. There is more chance of them having major side effects from the jab than it being of any use.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58438669

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-adv ... 021-09-03/

Serious illness and death hits the elderly.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... ths-by-age
I'm very familiar with the statistics. It's not that it's not recommended, but not a priority. Big difference. Regardless, my 13 year old is vaccinated and my 4 year old will be the moment it's available.
For something that causes marginal illness I would say the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy children. Whatever you think is best.
I know healthy kids that wound up in the ER with covid. None because of the vaccine. Easy decision.

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#1043 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:36 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:07 am
Bandit72 wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:21 am

For something that causes marginal illness I would say the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy children. Whatever you think is best.
I know healthy kids that wound up in the ER with covid. None because of the vaccine. Easy decision.
The thing is, for little kids especially, the vaccine is designed to mitigate spread to other unvaccinated and/or immuno-compromised people primarily through contact in school. It's not just preventing major illness. Also, the more the virus continues to spread, the more there's chances of mutations leading to inevitable vaccine-proof variations.

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#1044 Post by Hokahey » Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:37 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:36 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:07 am
Bandit72 wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:21 am

For something that causes marginal illness I would say the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy children. Whatever you think is best.
I know healthy kids that wound up in the ER with covid. None because of the vaccine. Easy decision.
The thing is, for little kids especially, the vaccine is designed to mitigate spread to other unvaccinated and/or immuno-compromised people primarily through contact in school. It's not just preventing major illness. Also, the more the virus continues to spread, the more there's chances of mutations leading to inevitable vaccine-proof variations.
That too. My 13 year olds motivation for getting vaccinated was more to prevent him from carrying it and spreading to immunocompromised folks, and less about worrying he'd get severely ill.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1045 Post by Bandit72 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:39 am

It seems the US and Israel have been the Guinea Pigs for the rest of the world. I'd rather not take the risk with my two. Vaccines stopping transmission isn't as good as first thought....as stated by someone from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, not myself (I'm not a medical professional)


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#1046 Post by Hokahey » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:15 am

Bandit72 wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:39 am
It seems the US and Israel have been the Guinea Pigs for the rest of the world. I'd rather not take the risk with my two. Vaccines stopping transmission isn't as good as first thought....as stated by someone from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, not myself (I'm not a medical professional)

I think most of the world not vaccinating younger don't have the means to really do so.

He says himself how rare these events are. He also is not repeating actual study data when he says transmission is not stopped very well in this age group and wouldn't have an impact on school. These shots were shown to be incredibly effective in that age group.

This article paints the picture better than I could;

https://time.com/6092446/pediatric-covid-19-surge/

Also, children are far more likely to develop MIS-C from covid than from the vaccine.

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#1047 Post by Bandit72 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:17 am

I also found this interesting. Yet more evidence of pharmaceutical wishing to push their own product for big bucks whilst dumbing down the rest.


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Re: Coronavirus

#1048 Post by kv » Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:30 am

I just can't...how many people have to fucking die? The country lost their fucking minds over 2000+ dead from 9/11 and we have 650,000 dead here...once two million people die here will then it be ok to do everything we can to mitigate this? This shit is exhausting...I had no clue we were this fucking stupid as a whole...or this easily blinded

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#1049 Post by kv » Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:41 am

I've listened to Joe for years...he's being an asshole with privilege...talk the big game run to the docs for all the expensive shit that they know will work then sprinkle in the snake oil and "oh look it cured me"...while taking the fda approved shit that actually is fucking proven to do shit...he knows his reach and impact....after he contracted it I expected him to backtrack...at least a little...nope...go get everything under the sun with the mighty dollar to save ya then act like nothing happened...ivermectin saved me folks...gtfo....he could have used this to save lives...he's just padding his pocket feeding his base bullshit that won't apply to them when they are in a public hospital dying...ya demand your doctor give you non fda approved meds...good luck with that

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Re: Coronavirus

#1050 Post by Xizen47 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:06 pm

Well, good thing that everyone who listens to Rogan has essentially no chance of dying of Covid.

This is a nasty virus and we should do what we can to combat it (within reason), but do you all really want to be Australia right now?

US deaths people under 50 - less than 35,000
50-65 another 20,000

Less than 500 kids under the age of 18 have died in the US of Covid (the Swine Flu took out over double in less than half the time)

Median age of death is in the early 80's, yet how many lives ruined from the lock downs? Businesses shut down, education stifled, depression and overdoses sky rocketing, etc etc... Does anyone consider the collateral damage? But if lockdowns save just 1 80 year old life right? :eyes:

I don't see where the hate for Rogan is coming from, Rogan never said to not take the vaccine, he recommended it for people with underlying issues. Being healthy and taking care of your body gives you better odds than a mask and vaccine. I recommend all 4

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