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Re: Coronavirus

#1041 Post by Bandit72 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:21 am

Hokahey wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:31 pm
Bandit72 wrote:
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Because something like 99.6% of the time healthy children who contract Covid have a very mild case if at all any. There is more chance of them having major side effects from the jab than it being of any use.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58438669

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-adv ... 021-09-03/

Serious illness and death hits the elderly.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... ths-by-age
I'm very familiar with the statistics. It's not that it's not recommended, but not a priority. Big difference. Regardless, my 13 year old is vaccinated and my 4 year old will be the moment it's available.
For something that causes marginal illness I would say the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy children. Whatever you think is best.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1042 Post by Hokahey » Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:07 am

Bandit72 wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:21 am
Hokahey wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:31 pm
Bandit72 wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:44 am
Because something like 99.6% of the time healthy children who contract Covid have a very mild case if at all any. There is more chance of them having major side effects from the jab than it being of any use.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58438669

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-adv ... 021-09-03/

Serious illness and death hits the elderly.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... ths-by-age
I'm very familiar with the statistics. It's not that it's not recommended, but not a priority. Big difference. Regardless, my 13 year old is vaccinated and my 4 year old will be the moment it's available.
For something that causes marginal illness I would say the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy children. Whatever you think is best.
I know healthy kids that wound up in the ER with covid. None because of the vaccine. Easy decision.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1043 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:36 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:07 am
Bandit72 wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:21 am

For something that causes marginal illness I would say the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy children. Whatever you think is best.
I know healthy kids that wound up in the ER with covid. None because of the vaccine. Easy decision.
The thing is, for little kids especially, the vaccine is designed to mitigate spread to other unvaccinated and/or immuno-compromised people primarily through contact in school. It's not just preventing major illness. Also, the more the virus continues to spread, the more there's chances of mutations leading to inevitable vaccine-proof variations.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1044 Post by Hokahey » Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:37 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:36 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:07 am
Bandit72 wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:21 am

For something that causes marginal illness I would say the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy children. Whatever you think is best.
I know healthy kids that wound up in the ER with covid. None because of the vaccine. Easy decision.
The thing is, for little kids especially, the vaccine is designed to mitigate spread to other unvaccinated and/or immuno-compromised people primarily through contact in school. It's not just preventing major illness. Also, the more the virus continues to spread, the more there's chances of mutations leading to inevitable vaccine-proof variations.
That too. My 13 year olds motivation for getting vaccinated was more to prevent him from carrying it and spreading to immunocompromised folks, and less about worrying he'd get severely ill.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1045 Post by Bandit72 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:39 am

It seems the US and Israel have been the Guinea Pigs for the rest of the world. I'd rather not take the risk with my two. Vaccines stopping transmission isn't as good as first thought....as stated by someone from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, not myself (I'm not a medical professional)


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Re: Coronavirus

#1046 Post by Hokahey » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:15 am

Bandit72 wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:39 am
It seems the US and Israel have been the Guinea Pigs for the rest of the world. I'd rather not take the risk with my two. Vaccines stopping transmission isn't as good as first thought....as stated by someone from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, not myself (I'm not a medical professional)

I think most of the world not vaccinating younger don't have the means to really do so.

He says himself how rare these events are. He also is not repeating actual study data when he says transmission is not stopped very well in this age group and wouldn't have an impact on school. These shots were shown to be incredibly effective in that age group.

This article paints the picture better than I could;

https://time.com/6092446/pediatric-covid-19-surge/

Also, children are far more likely to develop MIS-C from covid than from the vaccine.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1047 Post by Bandit72 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:17 am

I also found this interesting. Yet more evidence of pharmaceutical wishing to push their own product for big bucks whilst dumbing down the rest.


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Re: Coronavirus

#1048 Post by kv » Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:30 am

I just can't...how many people have to fucking die? The country lost their fucking minds over 2000+ dead from 9/11 and we have 650,000 dead here...once two million people die here will then it be ok to do everything we can to mitigate this? This shit is exhausting...I had no clue we were this fucking stupid as a whole...or this easily blinded

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Re: Coronavirus

#1049 Post by kv » Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:41 am

I've listened to Joe for years...he's being an asshole with privilege...talk the big game run to the docs for all the expensive shit that they know will work then sprinkle in the snake oil and "oh look it cured me"...while taking the fda approved shit that actually is fucking proven to do shit...he knows his reach and impact....after he contracted it I expected him to backtrack...at least a little...nope...go get everything under the sun with the mighty dollar to save ya then act like nothing happened...ivermectin saved me folks...gtfo....he could have used this to save lives...he's just padding his pocket feeding his base bullshit that won't apply to them when they are in a public hospital dying...ya demand your doctor give you non fda approved meds...good luck with that

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Re: Coronavirus

#1050 Post by Xizen47 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:06 pm

Well, good thing that everyone who listens to Rogan has essentially no chance of dying of Covid.

This is a nasty virus and we should do what we can to combat it (within reason), but do you all really want to be Australia right now?

US deaths people under 50 - less than 35,000
50-65 another 20,000

Less than 500 kids under the age of 18 have died in the US of Covid (the Swine Flu took out over double in less than half the time)

Median age of death is in the early 80's, yet how many lives ruined from the lock downs? Businesses shut down, education stifled, depression and overdoses sky rocketing, etc etc... Does anyone consider the collateral damage? But if lockdowns save just 1 80 year old life right? :eyes:

I don't see where the hate for Rogan is coming from, Rogan never said to not take the vaccine, he recommended it for people with underlying issues. Being healthy and taking care of your body gives you better odds than a mask and vaccine. I recommend all 4

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Re: Coronavirus

#1051 Post by perkana » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:46 am

Bandit72 wrote: I had my Astra Zeneca jab a month ago. Felt awful the next day. No temperature but weirdly, felt extremely hot and lethargic. Woke up at 3 am and could't get back to sleep. Was absolutely fine the next day albeit a sore arm.
I felt like crap 8 hours after my first shot (chills, headache, muscular ache, throat ache and runny nose). After my second dose just this Wednesday I only had a sore arm but just for two days. I'm just happy that all in my family are fully vaxed, especially my nieces since they are all back in school (two in junior high school and the eldest one is a sophomore in hs :yikes:)

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Re: Coronavirus

#1052 Post by perkana » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:54 am

Artemis wrote:
Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:36 pm
Cases are going up again here too. Today Ontario had 531 new cases. Of those, 456 are unvaccinated, 75 were fully vaccinated.

To date , 74% of people in the province 12 and older are fully vaccinated.
Here most cases have been unvaccinated. Unfortunately there have been breakthrough cases for vaccinated. One of my first cousins (and his whole family) got Covid. Both he and his wife were vaccinated but my cousin died.
So if you get infected please get treated as soon as you can even if you are vaccinated.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1053 Post by Artemis » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:28 pm

F*** Omicron!! :wavesad:

I don't think I can take another lockdown. I'm not going to off myself or anything like that, but I feel down about the latest situation.

In my province. some restrictions are being reinstated again, like 1/2 capacity for venues for sports and entertainment, mandatory masks in public places(shops, transit, etc).

Booked my booster on the 26th.

Another COVID Christmas... :nyrexall:

Stay safe everyone!

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Re: Coronavirus

#1054 Post by kv » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:48 pm

So it goes...got my booster last week...nobody ever said a pandemic would be easy...

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Re: Coronavirus

#1055 Post by Hokahey » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:48 pm

kv wrote:
Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:48 pm
So it goes...got my booster last week...nobody ever said a pandemic would be easy...
I've been boosted for a minute. I've said it before - jab me monthly for all I care. If it'll keep me alive then great. I felt like shit for a day after, then right as rain. No big deal. The fact that there are morons still cry-babying about getting even one shot blows my mind. But, they'll all get sick and/or die eventually. :noclue:

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Re: Coronavirus

#1056 Post by mockbee » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:55 am

We've had mask mandates indoor and outdoor for almost two years now for all adults (vaccinated and unvaccinated). We had a month repreive last August, and they just released the outdoor mandate last month.

The health authority is saying they are making the indoor mask and separation requirements permanent, (wont review policy at any specificied date) and just need signature of governor. :crazy:

80% of Oregonians over 18 are vaccinated and we all have to wear masks at all times, into perpetuity

:waits:

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Re: Coronavirus

#1057 Post by Pandemonium » Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:42 am

Just before Thanksgiving, my wife, son and I all got our 3rd Moderna booster. Just mildly sore arms for a day for my wife and I, our son again was a little tired and slept a lot the following day but no big deal. I would guess getting a booster shot every 4-6 months is going to be a "thing" the next few years.

Last weekend my wife and I did our first "event" thing since I last saw a concert in Dec 2019. Unfortunately it wasn't a rock show, it was The Nutcracker. The orchestra was great but I'm not a fan of all the prancey stuff. It was weird having to show a Covid vaccine card, match it with my drivers license and have to wear a mask in the big theater (Segerstrom Center) the whole performance. There were a few ushers with the thankless job of having "Wear Your Mask" handheld signs but no one hassled them. What was weird was all the adult performers were maskless but the child dancers wore masks (obviously because they're too young to be vaxxed yet). By the last half of the ballet, I was dying trying to keep from constantly sneezing from the fuckin' mask but I survived.

Considering the ramp up in new cases and all the restrictions being reinstated, I wouldn't be surprised if at the very least big shows are again cancelled or moved to late Spring next year. It's already happening with sports.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1058 Post by Artemis » Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:24 pm

Triple vaxxxed now, got my 3rd dose this morning.

Yesterday we had almost 10,500 cases in Ontario and just under 10,000 today. I'm sure after the holidays it will be worse. On the plus side, my return to office will be delayed now, was supposed to go back in March to hybrid style (2 days per week in office).

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Re: Coronavirus

#1059 Post by Artemis » Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:06 am

Here we go again...back in lockdown. Schools back to remote learning until at least the 17th, remote work if possible, indoor dining closed, concert venues, theatres, gyms, reduced gathering sizes, personal services (salons,barber) half capacity, reduced capacity in malls, shops, and so on. At least we don't have a curfew like in Quebec.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1060 Post by Hokahey » Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:52 pm

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uks-jo ... 022-01-03/

I honestly feel like this is the right path, and the future of this pandemic. We don't want to crush hospitals, but we can't shut down society so the unvaccinated can be better protected. When 90% in the ICU are not boosted, there is no reason to punish boosted individuals. Hopefully we do not encounter a variant that becomes more deadly instead of less, and between vaccines and infection immunity this thing can start to fade in to the background.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1061 Post by Artemis » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:43 am

As of March 21st, masking requirements will be dropped in my province. A couple of exceptions apply like hospital settings, LTC homes.
I will continue to mask up on public transit or crowded places.

My "Return to Office" date is May 16th.
May will be one day in office per week, June will be two days per week, July will be full hybrid- 3days in office, 2 days at home.

I'm looking forward to it and also a little bit anxious.

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#1062 Post by Hokahey » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:47 pm

Artemis wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:43 am
As of March 21st, masking requirements will be dropped in my province. A couple of exceptions apply like hospital settings, LTC homes.
I will continue to mask up on public transit or crowded places.

My "Return to Office" date is May 16th.
May will be one day in office per week, June will be two days per week, July will be full hybrid- 3days in office, 2 days at home.

I'm looking forward to it and also a little bit anxious.
For the first time since the pandemic started I've mostly dropped the mask. Then again, the most crowded place I ever go is the grocery store. I have some concerts coming up, and I'll probably mask for those. But with numbers being so low, I feel like these are the lulls where we have to live life semi normally. I regret not letting my guard down more last Spring when numbers were so low. I kept thinking "just a little longer," then Delta, then Omicron. So fuck it. I've also finally come to the realization that there really is no avoiding ever getting it. So I'd rather let my guard down when hospitals aren't on the brink of collapse and my booster is fresh.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1063 Post by kv » Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:40 am

My sister is a grade school teacher....they dropped the mask mandate and she and her husband now have covid...numbers are still way too high another month or so of masks for me...but trust me I get the fatigue

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Re: Coronavirus

#1064 Post by Artemis » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:05 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:47 pm
Artemis wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:43 am
As of March 21st, masking requirements will be dropped in my province. A couple of exceptions apply like hospital settings, LTC homes.
I will continue to mask up on public transit or crowded places.

My "Return to Office" date is May 16th.
May will be one day in office per week, June will be two days per week, July will be full hybrid- 3days in office, 2 days at home.

I'm looking forward to it and also a little bit anxious.
For the first time since the pandemic started I've mostly dropped the mask. Then again, the most crowded place I ever go is the grocery store. I have some concerts coming up, and I'll probably mask for those. But with numbers being so low, I feel like these are the lulls where we have to live life semi normally. I regret not letting my guard down more last Spring when numbers were so low. I kept thinking "just a little longer," then Delta, then Omicron. So fuck it. I've also finally come to the realization that there really is no avoiding ever getting it. So I'd rather let my guard down when hospitals aren't on the brink of collapse and my booster is fresh.
I'm ready to live again but with some caution. I'm the primary caregiver to my 84 year old mother, so have to be careful. If she gets Covid it would be from me or the PSW who helps her.

Throughout the pandemic I've been using public transit(buses mainly) as well as going grocery shopping regularly.

Looking forward to some concerts again and live sporting events like baseball, basketball.

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Re: Coronavirus

#1065 Post by Pandemonium » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:31 pm

Well, it took 2 1/2 years but I’m in the club now.

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I’m about two days into it. Started out Sunday with sinus allergy-like symptoms, lotta post nasal drip, scratchy throat. Monday morning, I knew I was getting sick, low grade fever, achy joints, headache between the eyes, zero energy. Two positive tests confirmed it. Really, the worse thing so far is all the snot going in my stomach feels like I have acid in my belly. Now I’m like on a baby’s schedule, confined to the spare bedroom, I sleep 3 hours, up three hours, mostly watch some tv or read, rinse and repeat. Although I’ve been much sicker in the past from various flus, it’s been about 10+ years since I’ve been even mildly ill.

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