2020 US Racial/Political Protests and Riots

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#101 Post by mockbee » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:41 am


Protestors Criticized For Looting Businesses Without Forming Private Equity Firm First

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MINNEAPOLIS—Calling for a more measured way to express opposition to police brutality, critics slammed demonstrators Thursday for recklessly looting businesses without forming a private equity firm first. “Look, we all have the right to protest, but that doesn’t mean you can just rush in and destroy any business without gathering a group of clandestine investors to purchase it at a severely reduced price and slowly bleed it to death,” said Facebook commenter Amy Mulrain, echoing the sentiments of detractors nationwide who blasted the demonstrators for not hiring a consultant group to take stock of a struggling company’s assets before plundering. “I understand that people are angry, but they shouldn’t just endanger businesses without even a thought to enriching themselves through leveraged buyouts and across-the-board terminations. It’s disgusting to put workers at risk by looting. You do it by chipping away at their health benefits and eventually laying them off. There’s a right way and wrong way to do this.” At press time, critics recommended that protestors hold law enforcement accountable by simply purchasing the Minneapolis police department from taxpayers.


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perfect.

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#102 Post by Larry B. » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:43 pm

I’m worried about the silence in this thread and the forum in general these days.

Everyone alright? Wanna hang out in the Coronavirus thread instead?

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#103 Post by Hermann » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:50 pm

Hello, I'm Hermann. I'm a Jane's Addiction fan, I like the USA, and I'm a Donald Trump fan. I think BLM is up there with 9/11. Mind if I join you?

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#104 Post by Hokahey » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:07 pm

Larry B. wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:43 pm
I’m worried about the silence in this thread and the forum in general these days.

Everyone alright? Wanna hang out in the Coronavirus thread instead?
I'm old, work at least 60 hours a week and have a lot of family to worry about and take care of these days.

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#105 Post by Hermann » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:11 pm

Hoka you're only 40. Why do you work 60/wk?

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#106 Post by kv » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:28 pm

The times dictate...

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#107 Post by Hermann » Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:04 pm

"I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their dedication to exceptional civic values, stable traditional families, parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture and their unflagging pride in maintaining exemplary clean, neat and orderly homes. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Property values are boosted and energized by the entry of African Americans into an area thanks to the caring and sincere respect they show for these communities, their absolute dedication to lives of law abiding peaceful neighborliness, and the examples of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a self-reliant, can-do culture of integrity and honor. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation."

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#108 Post by Pandemonium » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:32 pm

This should be fun.

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#109 Post by nausearockpig » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:44 pm

Hermann wrote:
Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:04 pm
"I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their dedication to exceptional civic values, stable traditional families, parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture and their unflagging pride in maintaining exemplary clean, neat and orderly homes. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Property values are boosted and energized by the entry of African Americans into an area thanks to the caring and sincere respect they show for these communities, their absolute dedication to lives of law abiding peaceful neighborliness, and the examples of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a self-reliant, can-do culture of integrity and honor. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation."

I found this text here: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/xa ... tml?bcmt=1

Not sure of the point of the original post though... “please explain”....

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#110 Post by drwintercreeper » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:54 pm

I googled that text and it seemed to go back at least as far as Sept. 2019 on a alt-right(?) facebook page.

This cock smoke is trying to be Skankhunt or Dildo Shwaggins from South Park season 20. ignore him.

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#111 Post by mockbee » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:34 pm

Just another Friday night in Portland.....






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#112 Post by Hermann » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:02 am

drwintercreeper wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:54 pm
I googled that text and it seemed to go back at least as far as Sept. 2019 on a alt-right(?) facebook page.

This cock smoke is trying to be Skankhunt or Dildo Shwaggins from South Park season 20. ignore him.
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#113 Post by Pandemonium » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:15 pm

There's some worrisome shit going down in Portland with the near-black ops Fed force "detaining" protesters. I do think the state and local leaders should have gotten that shit under control weeks ago instead of taking the Seattle "let's let them do as they will" approach, but the Fed response looks to be almost third world. I won't post it here but there's very graphic video of some protester who got shot in the head with a rubber bullet by the Feds that looked like it did as much damage to the guy as a real round.

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#114 Post by Hermann » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:16 pm

i love those videos
i could watch those antifa/blm cunts get the shit kicked out of them all day long
#TeamCops

Portland will never be the same
NYC is up next

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#115 Post by mockbee » Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:39 pm

Portlands been like this since the 90s, any excuse for the anarchists to come out of the woodwork and up from eugene and light shit on fire.

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Honestly, not much going on here, just like a five block radius around the fed courthouse to avoid and the North portland police precinct that a couple dozen anarchists amd about a hundred onlookers are trying to take over. Dont even really notice it...

Except when the tear gas drifts this way...
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Feds, right-wing media paint Portland as ‘city under siege.’ A tour of town shows otherwise
Updated 4:46 PM; Today 12:30 PM

By Eder Campuzano | The Oregonian/OregonLive



As Cory Alexander and her daughter Nevaeh Belka stroll through downtown Portland, a mural catches the 9-year-old’s eye.

The wall of black plywood surrounding the Pioneer Place Apple Store is a memorial to Black Americans killed by police.

George Floyd. Breonna Taylor. Jason Washington.

Nevaeh trots up the steps, faces her mother and raises a fist. Alexander, 46 and white, taps on her phone and takes a photo of her Black daughter.


“That’s what this is all about,” Alexander says.

But national media reports, particularly those published by right-wing outlets, suggest a vastly different version of how safe it is for children and families to stroll through downtown Portland.

One America News Network describes “violence gripping the city.” A Fox News headline blares “Portland protesters flood police precinct, chant about burning it down.” The New York Post reported Saturday that Portland “descended into violence.”

Many people who live in Portland, including Alexander, heard over the past few days from worried relatives in other states who feared that their loved ones in Portland might have been affected by fires or caught in police crossfire as they went about their day.

The images that populate national media feeds, however, come almost exclusively from a tiny point of the city: a 12-block area surrounding the Justice Center and federal courthouse.


And they occur exclusively during late-night hours in which only a couple hundred or fewer protesters and scores of police officers are out in the city’s coronavirus-hollowed downtown.


Those events are hardly representative of daily life, including peaceful anti-racism demonstrations that have drawn tens of thousands of protesters, in a city of 650,000 people that encompasses 145 square miles.

The vast majority of Portland residents spend quiet home-bound lives on hushed tree-lined streets with coronavirus and its resulting economic catastrophe as the greatest threat to their well-being.

Portland has experienced weeks of daily protests since the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minnesota police.

The largest of them, involving thousands of people chanting and marching for racial justice and police non-violence, have been peaceful.

But almost like clockwork, tensions flare late at night between law enforcement officers stationed at the Justice Center and courthouse and a crowd of 20- and 30-something demonstrators, a small number of whom toss projectiles at police, shine lasers in their eyes or otherwise poke and prod officers to engage.

The Portland Police Bureau often tweets photos of the objects tossed at officers, including rocks, half-empty cans of alcoholic seltzer and partially eaten apples.

But they’ve also claimed, without presenting evidence, that protesters, in the words of Police Capt. Craig Dobson, “often” lob water bottles full of urine or feces as well as “large mortar-style fireworks that can kill people,” endangering officers.

Law enforcement officials claim demonstrators’ use of such objects have required them to deploy tear gas, foam-tipped projectiles and other munitions against the hundreds gathered to disperse the crowd.

Smaller skirmishes have broken out at a pair of police precincts in other parts of the city and the Portland Police Association headquarters in North Portland, where officials accused demonstrators of lighting a dumpster on fire in an effort to set the whole building ablaze.

The agency has not been able to corroborate its claim that the union building was at serious risk. Nevertheless, images and video of the event, as well as fires lit at the base of the city’s historic downtown elk fountain, have galvanized conservative media across the country.

One particular viewer, President Donald Trump, has vowed to crack down.

His agency provided news organizations with a list of “violence” protesters have engaged in, the bulk of which consisted of vandalism to federal property, primarily graffiti on the courthouse exterior.


Portlanders swiftly rebutted Acting U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf’s portrayal of the city as under siege from violent protests, posting mundane scenes from their neighborhoods.

Among images they shared:

A community garden in the Southwest Hillsdale neighborhood.

Elephants bathing at the Oregon Zoo.

Stickers on street signs along Northeast Alberta Street.

Some even poked fun at national reporters, one of whom declared he was about to parachute in to “sort out what in the world is happening” in the Rose City.

The Oregonian/OregonLive spoke to nearly two dozen Portlanders and visitors downtown Friday as Wolf and other federal officials continued to characterize the city as lawless and under threat of constant riots.


Johnny Leyua, 18, was touring downtown and marveled at the mural in front of the Apple Store where Cory Alexander photographed her daughter.

“I would say that people here are doing it right,” Johnny Leyua said. “I think Portland is straight for the movement.”

He and his sister, Stephanie Leyua, 20, live in Salt Lake City. She’s retrieving a car from her ex and said she’s seen nothing but artwork filling the streets.

Stephanie Leyua caught sight of Wolf’s tweets at the Justice Center, which showed him chatting with police against the backdrop of graffiti he estimates will cost $5,000 to remove.

“Why didn’t he take any pictures of this?” Stephanie Leyua said, gesturing to the mural of Floyd, Washington and other Black people killed by police.

Although the Justice Center and federal courthouse are covered with angry graffiti decrying police, evidence of other demonstrations in the city are scarce.

For a couple of days, protesters rallied in front of Mayor Ted Wheeler’s condominium in a tony Northwest Portland neighborhood. Demonstrators tried to set up a police-free zone like the one protesters in Seattle set up in the Capitol Hill neighborhood in June.


But Portland police quickly dismantled the pallets and other debris blocking off the road.

Now, the only reminders of the demonstration are spray painted letters reading “Little Palestine” on one crosswalk and, on another, “PKAZ” — short for Patrick Kimmons Autonomous Zone, named after a Black Portlander killed by police.

With most Portlanders sticking close to home amid coronavirus, however, national TV coverage has been able to shape even some Portland residents’ sense of protests and police action taking place in their city.

Pearl District protest leftovers
Graffiti reading "Little Palestine" is practically the only evidence any demonstration took place in front of Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler's condominium in June.Photo by Eder Campuzano/Staff

Maria Magdalena, who lives in North Portland, said her view of the city’s protests has largely been that of boarded up businesses and police occasionally declaring riots.

She primarily speaks Spanish and typically catches newscasts on the local Univision affiliate.


“Why do they go after businesses?” she asked about protesters. “None of this is their fault.”

Katherine Sherman, a mother of three who attended a protest at Cleveland High Friday, also said she saw local news outlets focusing on vandalism and confrontations with police, which she said distracted from demonstrators’ larger messages against police brutality and systemic racism.

“It misses the point,” she said. “It misses the beauty of this cultural moment.”

She wasn’t alone in her criticism.

In mid-June, editors at The Oregonian/OregonLive adjusted the way collections of photographs accompanying protest coverage appear on its website.

Readers pointed out that every morning report on the previous night’s demonstrations was rife images of cops in riot gear and protesters fleeing amid clouds of smoke, burying photographs of the larger numbers of Portlanders peacefully chanting, marching through city streets or rallying in parks.


Rather than publishing those collections in chronological order, which prioritizes the last images photographers collect, often of police clearing protesters out of downtown Portland, the news organization now manually reorders them to give readers a look at the totality of events of any given day’s protests.

“We have made clear distinctions between the large, peaceful demonstrations and continued peaceful demonstrations, separate from the smaller group that gathers downtown at night,” Editor Therese Bottomly said Friday.

As the national spotlight continues to shine on Portland, tensions have mounted between demonstrators and the federal police who patrol outside the courthouse.


The Trump Administration dispatched federal marshals and U.S. Customs and Border Patrol agents to protect the building from vandalism after Wheeler ordered city police to scale back their confrontations with demonstrators.

The move is largely seen as a campaign strategy on the president’s part as his approval ratings plummet and polls show him far behind presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

Earlier this month, a federal police officer shot a less-than-lethal munition at 26-year-old Donavan La Bella’s face while he was holding a speaker across the street from the Justice Center, sending him to the hospital with a serious head wound.

Reports of federal agents apprehending Portlanders in unmarked vehicles began to circulate soon after.

The incidents galvanized demonstrators and prompted local and national officials to call for an investigation.

Critics say the government’s slow response to requests for transparency and the national media’s focus on the most salacious moments of the city’s demonstrations prove both federal officials and national reporters care more about property damage than the physical injuries protesters sustain on the streets.

Portland officials’ claims that demonstrations against police brutality and systemic racism cost downtown businesses upward of $23 million and video of protesters toppling a statue of Thomas Jefferson at a high school in North Portland drew headlines across the country.


But follow-up reporting of a faulty business association survey that mischaracterized sales losses due to coronavirus-related closures as protest-related or the school district’s push to rename many of its buildings in a nod to the movement that led to the statue’s toppling haven’t spread beyond local media.

Neither have stories about the protesters volunteering to feed houseless Portlanders in downtown parks, a group local police removed from the parks in front of the federal courthouse ahead of Wolf’s visit.

Meanwhile, La Bella’s dry blood still stains the sidewalk across the street from the Justice Center.

--Eder Campuzano | 503-221-4344 | @edercampuzano

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#116 Post by mockbee » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:16 pm

Well....this is different.

There have been big protests during the day downtown (1,000-2,000) and others in 10s of thousands.

But there are 2,000 people gathered outside Justice Center at night. Lots of regular civilians (not anarchists).

Can't believe that shit with the Feds beating on the unarmed Navy Vet with hands up.. :confused: :no:

Portland protests draw hundreds downtown Monday amid controversy over federal response (live updates)
Updated 9:57 PM;



Portland Protests continue for 54th night

By Ted Sickinger| The Oregonian/OregonLive and Alex Hardgrave | The Oregonian/OregonLive


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Portland parent groups marched in droves to Monday night to join downtown protesters in response to the repeated and nightly use of force by federal agents on demonstrators.

Portlanders first started protesting police violence against Black Americans in late May. It wasn’t until 31 days later that federal officers were first seen at the nightly demonstrations. In the weeks since, federal agents have used less-lethal munitions and gas on protesters numerous times.

Their actions have drawn scrutiny from Oregon officials and support from President Donald Trump and his administration. Trump again praised federal law enforcement Monday, saying they were doing a fantastic job in Portland. The president said he planned to replicate the response in other major U.S. cities led by Democratic mayors.

Groups called the Wall of Moms and PDXDadPod say they will march around 9 p.m. Monday from the riverfront to the heart of nightly protests on Southwest Third Avenue, where two federal buildings sit on either side of the downtown jail.

The mothers’ group also attended Sunday night’s demonstration, linking arms and standing at the front of a crowd. Some on Twitter called for the dads to bring leaf blowers Monday in order to blow away tear gas federal officers have used often on protesters.

By 8:40 p.m., about 200 people had gathered for the march. Most were women wearing yellow shirts. One person held a sign that said, “Hey feds, you need to think about your sad choices — Mom.”

Even before the parents’ groups arrived, more than 300 people had already gathered near the downtown jail. Young Black community leaders used a megaphone to ask, “Whose lives matter?” Hundreds of people responded, “Black lives matter!”

The crowd roared when the parents’ march arrived just before 9 p.m. and joined the chant. By then, parents’ group had expanded to several hundred people.

The combined crowd numbered more than 1,000 people by 9:15 p.m. The crowds filled Southwest Third Avenue and the nearby park in front of the jail. Almost everyone wore masks. Some people stood on the steps of the jail and delivered speeches and rallied the crowd.

When one person asked how many mothers were in the crowd, several hundred people rose their hands.

Police stayed away from the crowd, which appeared to have grown beyond 2,000 people by 9:45 p.m. One speaker encouraged people to vote and told them how to register, drawing a wave of cheers.

One person walked amid the crowd with a child’s pool full of hundreds of pig squeak toys. An older man used a projector to display “Fed Goons out of PDX” on the Justice Center.

A second Black Lives Matter protest also took place Monday evening in Southeast Portland to honor Shai-India Harris, an 18-year-old who was shot and killed in the area July 10. Harris was shot and killed near Lents Park, where people planned to gather.

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#117 Post by Hermann » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:49 pm

Can't believe that shit with the Feds beating on the unarmed Navy Vet with hands up.. :confused: :no:
i can. he was at a fucking riot and was told to move away. dipshit should've followed orders like he was taught. guy thought his lil NAVY shirt meant he could do what he wanted :confused: :no:
LAW & ORDER!

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#118 Post by chaos » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:07 pm

Don't mess with the moms!

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#119 Post by Xizen47 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:33 pm

"Only a coward would try to convince the entire country that these people are violent anarchists then deploy paramilitary forces to tear gas them."


If there weren't violent anarchists to begin with, the fed wouldn't be there :noclue:

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#120 Post by chaos » Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:23 pm

It is a dangerous game for The Administration to equate vandalism with terrorism. All of the graffiti and vandalism provide the optics needed to send in the secret police to save "a city under siege." This strategy to scare suburbanites into thinking "violent anarchists" are taking over has backfired. Trump is not getting the image he is desperately trying to paint for himself as a strong leader. The "violence" is coming from DHS and it is not just a provocation for the vandals (who should be arrested), but also the peaceful protestors/suburban moms.

Both the city of Portland and the state of Oregon do not want the DHS troops there. Let it be their responsibility to clean up the graffiti and repair the courthouse.

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