Re: Who is going to win the election - Nov 3, 2020 - Biden or Trump.....?
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:45 am
took them one day to count 98% of the votes, another few days for the other 2%
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Georgia judge throws out Trump’s lawsuit over voter fraud in a blow to his electoral hopes
Donald Trump has lost his first challenge to electoral processes after a judge in Georgia dismissed his case
Harriet Alexander
15 seconds ago
A judge in Georgia has denied a Republican attempt to question the vote counting in the state, in the first ruling from a flurry of lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign.
The case was filed on Wednesday in Chatham County, after a Republican witness said, without providing evidence, that he did not know whether a pile of 53 ballots were received on time.
On Thursday morning Judge James Bass dismissed the case in a one-sentence ruling, without giving his reasoning.
"After listening to the evidence, I'm denying the request, dismissing the petition, thank you gentlemen," he concluded at the end of the hour-long hearing in Savannah.
In their complaint, the Trump campaign argued: “Failing to ensure that absentee ballots received after the deadline are stored in a manner to ensure that such ballots are not inadvertently or intentionally counted, as required under Georgia law, harms the interests of the Trump Campaign and President Trump because it could lead to the dilution of legal votes cast in support of President Trump."
The complaint also contained a sworn declaration by a poll watcher named Sean Pumphrey with a “vague account about a stack of 53 ballots,” according to lawandcrime.com.
He alleged, but provided no evidence of, impropriety.
Mr Pumphrey said he saw 53 ballots placed on a table separate from ballots in bins ready to go out to be counted.
Ben Perkins, a lawyer representing Chatham County, asked Mr Pumphrey if he had evidence those ballots arrived after 7pm on Election Day, and Mr Pumphrey said he did not know.
The board’s witness said the ballots were indeed received on time, and Sabrina German, the director of Chatham County's Voter Registration Office, backed up the board witness's testimony.
Jeff Harris, from the Democratic Party of Georgia, said that both of the Republican witnesses conceded they had no idea about when those 53 ballots were received.
“They have been flatly incapable of proffering competent evidence to prove that point,” he said.
"Courts don’t resolve disputes about whether something may or may not be happening."
If Trump Tries to Sue His Way to Election Victory, Here’s What Happens
It’s easy enough for the Trump campaign to file a lawsuit claiming improprieties, but a lot harder to provide evidence of wrongdoing or a convincing legal argument. Here’s what you need to know as the election lawsuits start to mount.
by Ian MacDougall Nov. 4, 4:47 p.m. EST
A hearing on Wednesday in an election case captured in miniature the challenge for the Trump campaign as it gears up for what could become an all-out legal assault on presidential election results in key swing states: It’s easy enough to file a lawsuit claiming improprieties — in this case, that Pennsylvania had violated the law by allowing voters whose mail-in ballots were defective to correct them — but a lot harder to provide evidence of wrongdoing or a convincing legal argument. “I don’t understand how the integrity of the election was affected,” said U.S. District Judge Timothy Savage, something he repeated several times during the hearing. (However the judge rules, the case is unlikely to have a significant effect; only 93 ballots are at issue, a county election official said.)
“A lawsuit without provable facts showing a statutory or constitutional violation is just a tweet with a filing fee,” said Justin Levitt, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles.
Levitt said judges by and large have ignored the noise of the race and the bluster of President Donald Trump’s Twitter feed. “They’ve actually demanded facts and haven’t been ruling on all-caps claims of fraud or suppression,” Levitt said. “They haven’t confused public relations with the predicate for litigation, and I would expect that to continue.”
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That would have been something. Two presidents sharing the white house. The basement has the bowling alley.
I think repubs (trump) are on it.....Tweet
Krystal M
@kammie1217
So if you voted by mail, and if you have been tracking your ballot and either the post office still has it/or it’s not been accepted, you can STILL vote in person tomorrow.
Your mail-in would then be invalidated and your in-person ballot would be counted
5:21 PM · Nov 2, 2020·Twitter Web App
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Nov 2
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I think I have come across some people that mailed it in and went in. Don't you guys have a number you can call to inquire about this?
Sinister Ginger
@pissedoff1800
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Nov 2
I worded this all arse backwards lol. They were kinda two separate thoughts
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That all makes sense and sounds very secure. Especially for states such as California that have a history of general mail-in voting (beyond the typical Absentee that is available by law in all states).tvrec wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:54 amI've worked California polls for about 2 decades, so I can speak to my experiences there and how mail & in-person voting is set up to prevent and litigate double-voting, not that those procedures are the same in every state (or even every county within a state, since those differ in processes too). When voters in California are mailed a ballot, as they were in total across my county and I believe across the entire state, the voter roster assigns the voter the status of vote-by-mail. If voters turns up at a polling station requesting to vote in person, they have three options: drop off the completed mail ballot, signed and sealed; surrender their ballot that was mailed to them, which is then "spoiled" immediately in front of the voter so that it cannot tabulated (and set, rather than in the ballot box, in a separate envelope for spoiled ballots). The roster clerk then has to record in the register that the voter surrendered the other ballot and then the voter signs in next to their info, including a voter specific bar code, and votes in person using the voting equipment with a user specific access code. Everything is cross-referenced and easily traceable; or, if they say they don't have the ballot or never received it or what have you, they have to vote provisionally, which means that they have to fill out a whole slew of info including things like a state ID or drivers license number and testify under criminal charges that they have not double-voted. These ballots are individuated and not included in any tabulation of voting until the county registrar can verify each person's eligibility to vote and that they have voted only once. All this is to say, the system has safe guards in place for this hypothetical double voter. Does that it mean it never happens? Of course not. But it's a slender chance that it occurs AND is tabulated within voting registrars' official results to the degree that would be necessary to alter who has won the election.
Trump sealed his 2016 victory with 77,000 votes across three battleground states, while Biden’s margin would be slightly narrower — about 45,000 votes across Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin.
https://apnews.com/article/election-202 ... c80025a9b0