Pepper Cop

[Bandit72]

[guysmiley]

Yeah, that dude is fucked up. I'd like to know the whole story, but still, he does it so nonchalantly I don't see the need for the force. Just seems like a real dick.

[Bandit72]

Like the police in general you mean?

Or is that a flippant generalisation?

[guysmiley]

[kv]

i don't get the uproar..should we just go back to smacking the shit outa people with clubs when they don't follow police orders?

[Jasper]

This was on a campus and he was campus police. They were non-violent student protestors merely sitting somewhere. I've had friends do that during protests for the first Iraq war. They were actually blocking a real door of a real government building. When they refused to move, the real Boston police simply lifted each one, with care, several officers to each protestor.

This is bullshit and unnecessary use of force. Pepper spray is supposed to be used for violent suspects. The guy who help make pepper spray into a weapon went on record saying that this was an outrageous use of chemical weapons and that such a situation was not the intended purpose of the spray.

[Bandit72]

i don't get the uproar..should we just go back to smacking the shit outa people with clubs when they don't follow police orders?

You may see this sooner than you think.

[tvrec]

Students and alumni pepper sprayed at close range by University of California, Davis campus police will receive a settlement, the UC Regents decided Thursday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 83770.html

But no charges...

DAVIS, Calif. -- The University of California, Davis police officers who doused students and alumni with pepper spray during a campus protest last November won't face criminal charges, prosecutors said Wednesday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/2 ... 01112.html

[Romeo]

someone I know is going through federal law enforcement training and he had to be peppered sprayed (and tasered & attacked by a dog) He said that pepper spray is not very effective to people who eat a lot of very spicy food. Apparently you build a tolerance

[Essence_Smith]

i don't get the uproar..should we just go back to smacking the shit outa people with clubs when they don't follow police orders?

You may see this sooner than you think.

Ya haven't lived until a cop has a least swung and missed at you with a baton...I've been to tons of protests in my time, many attended by thousands and I've been tear gassed, pepper sprayed, etc...all I wanna know is who promised you guys that there was a such thing as a "peaceful" protest? I'm saying if you're out there protesting there are a few things you should always carry with you even though you yourself may not mean to make any trouble and you're just there sincerely supporting a cause...

Number one...some people aren't there just to support the cause...some are there for different reasons anything from trying to meet girls to they have nothing better to do to they wanna do drugs in a thick ass crowd...those people can and WILL fuck it up for the "peaceful" protestors...

Number two...you should be prepared to run, get your ass kicked by cops, etc...the civil rights movement in the 60's being a notable example that if they wanna, they can break out the hoses and attack dogs and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it...besides if you're really down for change, none of these things should really bother you...dude on that Rage album cover burned himself alive to make a point...

Number three...protests and speeches don't really do much to change anything...cops get overtime...you risk arrest, etc...I've been to dozens and the only ones I've seen change anything were almost always the ones that resulted in violence...

My post is a bit sarcastic of course, but seriously pepper spray ain't shit...getting your skull cracked in or kicked by a police horse or dragged a few blocks in the street like I've personally seen happen to friends of mine is more offensive imo...and again, its part of protesting imho...

[Essence_Smith]

Now this is the kinda protesting I'd like to see more of...

[Hype]

someone I know is going through federal law enforcement training and he had to be peppered sprayed (and tasered & attacked by a dog) He said that pepper spray is not very effective to people who eat a lot of very spicy food. Apparently you build a tolerance

That's nonsense. Pepper Spray is 1.5-2 million Scoville units. Most hot peppers most people who think they're "manly" for eating are below 350,000 Scovilles. Plus, you don't eat peppers with your eyes.

Here's a police pamphlet thing on MACE/Pepper spray (which are different things):

http://police.csusb.edu/Crime%20Prevention/MACE.pdf

Misuse of Tear Gas [they mean mace or pepper spray]
Use of tear gas or a tear gas weapon, EXCEPT in self-defense, can be a felony. (California Penal Code Section
12403.7 (a) (8)) The local District Attorney has the discretion to file misdemeanor or felony charges. Use of tear gas against a peace officer engaged in official duties is a felony.
The following are possible sanctions for misuse:
• Up to three years in state prison; or
• Up to one year in county jail; or
• Fine up to $1,000; or
• Both fine and imprisonment.

That cop clearly misused it and should be penalized (if he wasn't already).

[Bandit72]

someone I know is going through federal law enforcement training and he had to be peppered sprayed (and tasered & attacked by a dog) He said that pepper spray is not very effective to people who eat a lot of very spicy food. Apparently you build a tolerance

That's nonsense. Pepper Spray is 1.5-2 million Scoville units. Most hot peppers most people who think they're "manly" for eating are below 350,000 Scovilles. Plus, you don't eat peppers with your eyes.

I agreee with your eye comment, however you are way out with the pepper spray v hot sauce scoville unit rating. Standard pepper spray isn't that hot. Chilli's are.

http://www.chilliworld.com/factfile/sco ... sauces.asp

I am a chilli afficianado and I've had sauce and chilli in my mouth way, way hotter than police pepper spray.

[Hype]

someone I know is going through federal law enforcement training and he had to be peppered sprayed (and tasered & attacked by a dog) He said that pepper spray is not very effective to people who eat a lot of very spicy food. Apparently you build a tolerance

That's nonsense. Pepper Spray is 1.5-2 million Scoville units. Most hot peppers most people who think they're "manly" for eating are below 350,000 Scovilles. Plus, you don't eat peppers with your eyes.

I agreee with your eye comment, however you are way out with the pepper spray v hot sauce scoville unit rating. Standard pepper spray isn't that hot. Chilli's are.

http://www.chilliworld.com/factfile/sco ... sauces.asp

I am a chilli afficianado and I've had sauce and chilli in my mouth way, way hotter than police pepper spray.

Every source I've found says law-enforcement grade pepper spray is 1.5-5 million+ Scoville units.

In that list you gave me, "2,000,000 Common Pepper spray"'; "5,300,000 Police grade Pepper spray"

Most sauces and chilis are less than that, even by your own link. There are only 3 or 4 food-items listed above that, and they're specialty items that border on poison. In the millions of Scovilles it's a chemical irritant, and you can suffer burns from it.

Most people don't eat anything hotter than a habanero, and they generally don't just pop it in their mouth and chew for a while, let alone rub it in their eyes.

[Pure Method]

my friend grows his own bhut jolokia. mufuka, that's a hot pepper.

[Hype]

my friend grows his own bhut jolokia. mufuka, that's a hot pepper.

It lost its place as the hottest natural pepper to this one: http://gizmodo.com/5885581/the-2-millio ... ds-hottest

(which, you'll notice, is not as hot as police-grade pepper spray)

These peppers are so hot that the team went through multiple sets of gloves during the harvest because the Scorpion's capsaicin, "kept penetrating the latex and soaking into the skin on our hands. That has never happened to me before," said senior research specialist Danise Coon.

[Pure Method]

my friend grows his own bhut jolokia. mufuka, that's a hot pepper.

It lost its place as the hottest natural pepper to this one: http://gizmodo.com/5885581/the-2-millio ... ds-hottest

(which, you'll notice, is not as hot as police-grade pepper spray)

These peppers are so hot that the team went through multiple sets of gloves during the harvest because the Scorpion's capsaicin, "kept penetrating the latex and soaking into the skin on our hands. That has never happened to me before," said senior research specialist Danise Coon.

he will be disappointed - always down to try something spicy

[Hype]

my friend grows his own bhut jolokia. mufuka, that's a hot pepper.

It lost its place as the hottest natural pepper to this one: http://gizmodo.com/5885581/the-2-millio ... ds-hottest

(which, you'll notice, is not as hot as police-grade pepper spray)

These peppers are so hot that the team went through multiple sets of gloves during the harvest because the Scorpion's capsaicin, "kept penetrating the latex and soaking into the skin on our hands. That has never happened to me before," said senior research specialist Danise Coon.

he will be disappointed - always down to try something spicy

It's sort of a waste of time... after a certain point, there's not really any way to distinguish "taste", or even "heat" level, it's just going to come down to how hurt you get from that particular pepper and that particular bite. It's a kind of superstition, I think. If you want to prove your manhood, you'd be proving a better point by just getting some friends to nail you in the stomach with a baseball bat.

Or just drink some Drano.

(I say this as someone who LOVES spicy food...)

[SR]

i don't get the uproar..should we just go back to smacking the shit outa people with clubs when they don't follow police orders?

You may see this sooner than you think.

Ya haven't lived until a cop has a least swung and missed at you with a baton...I've been to tons of protests in my time, many attended by thousands and I've been tear gassed, pepper sprayed, etc...all I wanna know is who promised you guys that there was a such thing as a "peaceful" protest? I'm saying if you're out there protesting there are a few things you should always carry with you even though you yourself may not mean to make any trouble and you're just there sincerely supporting a cause...

Number one...some people aren't there just to support the cause...some are there for different reasons anything from trying to meet girls to they have nothing better to do to they wanna do drugs in a thick ass crowd...those people can and WILL fuck it up for the "peaceful" protestors...

Number two...you should be prepared to run, get your ass kicked by cops, etc...the civil rights movement in the 60's being a notable example that if they wanna, they can break out the hoses and attack dogs and there ain't a damn thing you can do about it...besides if you're really down for change, none of these things should really bother you...dude on that Rage album cover burned himself alive to make a point...

Number three...protests and speeches don't really do much to change anything...cops get overtime...you risk arrest, etc...I've been to dozens and the only ones I've seen change anything were almost always the ones that resulted in violence...

My post is a bit sarcastic of course, but seriously pepper spray ain't shit...getting your skull cracked in or kicked by a police horse or dragged a few blocks in the street like I've personally seen happen to friends of mine is more offensive imo...and again, its part of protesting imho...

That's nothing. For entertainment the likes of you would be the object of public vivisections in shakes day. Take your pepper spray and like it.

[SR]

.....

[Pure Method]

my friend grows his own bhut jolokia. mufuka, that's a hot pepper.

It lost its place as the hottest natural pepper to this one: http://gizmodo.com/5885581/the-2-millio ... ds-hottest

(which, you'll notice, is not as hot as police-grade pepper spray)

These peppers are so hot that the team went through multiple sets of gloves during the harvest because the Scorpion's capsaicin, "kept penetrating the latex and soaking into the skin on our hands. That has never happened to me before," said senior research specialist Danise Coon.

he will be disappointed - always down to try something spicy

It's sort of a waste of time... after a certain point, there's not really any way to distinguish "taste", or even "heat" level, it's just going to come down to how hurt you get from that particular pepper and that particular bite. It's a kind of superstition, I think. If you want to prove your manhood, you'd be proving a better point by just getting some friends to nail you in the stomach with a baseball bat.

Or just drink some Drano.

(I say this as someone who LOVES spicy food...)

haha no, I don't eat spicy food to "prove my manhood". do you assume so because I'm an american?

[Hype]

my friend grows his own bhut jolokia. mufuka, that's a hot pepper.

It lost its place as the hottest natural pepper to this one: http://gizmodo.com/5885581/the-2-millio ... ds-hottest

(which, you'll notice, is not as hot as police-grade pepper spray)

These peppers are so hot that the team went through multiple sets of gloves during the harvest because the Scorpion's capsaicin, "kept penetrating the latex and soaking into the skin on our hands. That has never happened to me before," said senior research specialist Danise Coon.

he will be disappointed - always down to try something spicy

It's sort of a waste of time... after a certain point, there's not really any way to distinguish "taste", or even "heat" level, it's just going to come down to how hurt you get from that particular pepper and that particular bite. It's a kind of superstition, I think. If you want to prove your manhood, you'd be proving a better point by just getting some friends to nail you in the stomach with a baseball bat.

Or just drink some Drano.

(I say this as someone who LOVES spicy food...)

haha no, I don't eat spicy food to "prove my manhood". do you assume so because I'm an american?

I didn't mean you... I meant your friend. It's a thing. (Cf. Homer Simpson at the Chili Cookoff.) But not because you're American... it's just a very "Bro" thing to do...

[Bandit72]

my friend grows his own bhut jolokia. mufuka, that's a hot pepper.

It lost its place as the hottest natural pepper to this one: http://gizmodo.com/5885581/the-2-millio ... ds-hottest

(which, you'll notice, is not as hot as police-grade pepper spray)

These peppers are so hot that the team went through multiple sets of gloves during the harvest because the Scorpion's capsaicin, "kept penetrating the latex and soaking into the skin on our hands. That has never happened to me before," said senior research specialist Danise Coon.

he will be disappointed - always down to try something spicy

It's sort of a waste of time... after a certain point, there's not really any way to distinguish "taste", or even "heat" level, it's just going to come down to how hurt you get from that particular pepper and that particular bite. It's a kind of superstition, I think. If you want to prove your manhood, you'd be proving a better point by just getting some friends to nail you in the stomach with a baseball bat.

Or just drink some Drano.

(I say this as someone who LOVES spicy food...)

Nothing to do with manhood and you can easily distinguish taste v heat with hot peppers. I guess some people build up a tolerance to hot food. I bought some dorset nagas a couple of years ago and they improved my enchiladas I made ten fold. The scorpion chilli now beats the naga but I have yet to try it. Of course I wouldn't eat one on its own, what's the point? You wouldn't eat a block of salt on its own. With food, if you're a chilli head, it makes it so much better. I have grown up in the curry capital of England though, so I guess I've been exposed to spicy food all ny life. By my own choosing obviously.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... ttest.html

[Pure Method]

I get your point but I don't think horticulture is not really bro-y. he's more a nerd.

[Hype]

you can easily distinguish taste v heat with hot peppers.

Not in the million+ Scoville range.