Public/Private Space and Individual Rights

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Re: Public/Private Space and Individual Rights

#21 Post by Pandemonium » Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:33 am

Adurentibus Spina wrote:
guysmiley wrote:you've got to be Hype. :lolol: Your vocabulary is too broad not to be.
Yeah, I let Hoka know that I signed up under a new name. I don't mind still being referred to as "Hype", but I wanted to distance myself from "Hypersonic" because: a) I don't listen to Strays, and b) most people forgot that the album was originally supposed to be called "Hypersonic", and that's why I choose that name back in 2002 or so. The same way "kingsvikes" decided to go with "k-v" (because that's what we were calling him anyway), I guess I could've changed it to just "Hype", but that's got connotations I don't like. "Adurentibus Spina" is a rough translation of "caustic thorn" into Latin (it's probably more literally "burning thorn"), but I like it.

"Wordy Muthafuckah" would also have been an appropriate new screen name. :hehe:

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#22 Post by Hype » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:14 am

I'm verbose. :bday:

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#23 Post by Hokahey » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:19 pm

Pure Method wrote:I thought jobs were moving abroad for lower labor/land costs, not lower incorporation/corporate fees/taxes?

That's what happens, in a partially globalized (or 'globalizing') world. It's not Michigan v Missouri - it's everyone v everyone else in the world (not totally, but y'know what I'm getting at.
That's part of it. And in that regard, you have unions to thank.

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#24 Post by guysmiley » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:03 pm

Even blowing up the unions would fix everything. If you wanted to make labor cheaper in this country, then cost of living would have to go down, the prices of goods would have to adjust, and workers could potentially loss rights along the way if they wanted to work. It could happen, but I don't trust it would, nor would it happen in a timely matter.

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#25 Post by Hype » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:11 pm

Fuck it, the US should just annex Mexico, then set up a real apartheid wall and use them as an even cheaper source of labour. :bored: :bs: :jasper:

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#26 Post by Larry B. » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:20 pm

Adurentibus Spina wrote:Fuck it, the US should just annex Mexico, then set up a real apartheid wall and use them as an even cheaper source of labour. :bored: :bs: :jasper:
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#27 Post by Artemis » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:26 am

My company is really expanding in India - 8000 employees! :yikes:

We had a meeting last week with one of the VPs to discuss all the "exciting developments" happening in India and how our jobs are going to be changing. Naturally, the discussion was all very vague, no questions were really answered, yet we were all supposed to be upbeat about the prospect of losing our jobs to someone in India.

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#28 Post by sinep » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:35 am

Adurentibus Spina wrote:Fuck it, the US should just annex Mexico, then set up a real apartheid wall and use them as an even cheaper source of labour. :bored: :bs: :jasper:
i want to be able to go to ensenada and rosarito again for chicas y tacos de pescado y cerveza.

i want it to be safe.

i don't think annexation will work though.

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#29 Post by Hype » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:51 am

Of course it wouldn't. I was being facetious. Why on earth would I advocate for Apartheid-like policies? :confused:

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#30 Post by Larry B. » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:06 am

Why on Earth would you take that post seriously?

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#31 Post by MYXYLPLYX » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:06 am

Why on earth would anyone take anything JSSD posts seriously? :lol:

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#32 Post by Hype » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:48 am

I don't find him funny... so it's hard not to take him seriously.

I also don't understand Larry's post. I don't write stuff to "stir the pot", I write it because I have reasons for saying what I say that relate to what I say, not ulterior motives... :jasper:

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#33 Post by Larry B. » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:50 am

Adurentibus Spina wrote:I have reasons for saying what I say that relate to what I say, not ulterior motives... :jasper:
How are those different?

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#34 Post by Hype » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:15 pm

Larry B. wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:I have reasons for saying what I say that relate to what I say, not ulterior motives... :jasper:
How are those different?
The former involves making a serious point relevant to the discussion. The latter involves trying to provoke people for reasons that have nothing to do with the discussion. It's not that difficult to get... :hs:

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#35 Post by chaos » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:59 pm

hokahey wrote:
Pure Method wrote:I thought jobs were moving abroad for lower labor/land costs, not lower incorporation/corporate fees/taxes?

That's what happens, in a partially globalized (or 'globalizing') world. It's not Michigan v Missouri - it's everyone v everyone else in the world (not totally, but y'know what I'm getting at.
That's part of it. And in that regard, you have unions to thank.
Yeah - unions are evil. :eyes:

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/chinablue/film.html

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#36 Post by sinep » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:17 am

Adurentibus Spina wrote:I don't find him funny... so it's hard not to take him seriously.
really?

it's hard for you to differentiate between things you don't find funny and things that are serious?

that's odd.

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#37 Post by creep » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:13 am

sinep wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:I don't find him funny... so it's hard not to take him seriously.
really?

it's hard for you to differentiate between things you don't find funny and things that are serious?

that's odd.
i find it funny that you don't find him funny. :confused:

he is one of the funniest people here but we both sort of have the mentality of a 12 year old so i guess we connect that way.

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#38 Post by Hype » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:13 am

sinep wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:I don't find him funny... so it's hard not to take him seriously.
really?

it's hard for you to differentiate between things you don't find funny and things that are serious?

that's odd.
I find a lot of things funny (maybe even most things). I also find a lot of things I take seriously funny. But because I don't find you funny, I find it hard not to take you seriously. Maybe I'm autistic. :conf:

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#39 Post by sinep » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:50 am

well i don't find you interesting.

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#40 Post by Hype » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:59 am

sinep wrote:well i don't find you interesting.
I believe it. :tiphat:

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#41 Post by Artemis » Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:54 am

Larry B. wrote:
Right now, a big part of the population is fighting for a more equal distribution of that wealth. I think Chile is the country with the biggest inequality in the world, and with the most expensive education system. That's one big fuckedupness.
I just saw this story on Al Jazeera English..


Chile president berates students over protest
Sebastian Pinera tells students "nothing is free" as labour unions join protesters demanding educational reforms.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/ameri ... ookPosting

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#42 Post by Hype » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:59 am

Of course nothing is free, but taxes should pay for education. :balls: :banghead: :lolol:

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#43 Post by Larry B. » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:50 am

Adurentibus Spina wrote:Of course nothing is free, but taxes should pay for education. :balls: :banghead:
That's what these neoliberals don't want to understand.

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#44 Post by Hype » Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:57 pm

Larry B. wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:Of course nothing is free, but taxes should pay for education. :balls: :banghead:
That's what these neoliberals don't want to understand.
I think you mean neoconservatives... who call themselves "classical liberals" or "libertarians", but have sort of missed the point of, say, Locke.

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#45 Post by Hokahey » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:49 pm

Adurentibus Spina wrote:
Larry B. wrote:
Adurentibus Spina wrote:Of course nothing is free, but taxes should pay for education. :balls: :banghead:
That's what these neoliberals don't want to understand.
I think you mean neoconservatives... who call themselves "classical liberals" or "libertarians", but have sort of missed the point of, say, Locke.

That all makes a whole lot of no sense.

Neocons may be big spenders, but they certainly don't claim to be. And most of their spending is on the military industrial complex. Libertarians are the only ones that understand "nothing is free." That's practically the mantra of the movement.

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