Eric leaves NIN or "the breakdown of nyrexall"

[NYRexall]

I like Closer. Especially its video. It’s just been played to death and not one of my favorites.

[Pandemonium]

are there any live drums on the album. the only songs i heard didn't have any. are other nin albums like this?

that's one of the things I really miss, it's a bit too electronic

Yeah, that's a huge turn-off for me as well. Done well, I don't have a problem with sampled live drums looped or pieced together to make a rhythm track but the level Trent took it to on this album completely alienates me as a listener.

[Pandemonium]

My 10 favorite NIN songs, for all of you who were wondering

Mine, 1 at top, 10 at bottom:

Heresy
Last
March Of The Pigs
Sanctified
The Wretched
Burn
Complications
The Perfect Drug
Head Like A Hole
Wish

[NYRexall]

I'm replacing number eight on my list with "We're In This Together". That guitar overdrive/piano outro during the final two minutes is one of my favorite parts on that entire album.

I've never understood the fan fascination with TPD. To me, that's one of his worst songs ever.

[Jammyshill]

People commenting on things like the drums, try doing what we used to do when we bought a physical copy of music and listen to it more than once before forming an opinion.

I think every single album/ band I truly love was in some way a challenge to listen to/ understand. Nowadays, as music is so disposable, it's just "meh, I don't like the drums, fucking piece of shit, never gonna listen to that again..."

[belmont]

I'm really liking Hesitation Marks. It has a few duds, most notably Came Back Haunted, Disappointed and Running (Running is just completely fucking useless - one of those songs that I'm truly befuddled by).

But for the most part, I really like the imbalance of it - the songs are kind of sparse, but have lots of unexpected flourishes and neat twists. Nothing mindblowing, but it's a sound I like. Lyrically, the man's been treading water for a long time, but he's never been a strong or interesting lyricist, so the repetitive lyrical themes don't bother me.

Favorites so far: Find My Way, All Time Low, Satellite, Various Methods of Escape, In Two

And, since others are doing it:

1. Wish
2. In This Twilight
3. Happiness in Slavery
4. Ruiner
5. Sanctified
6. The Good Soldier
7. Zero-Sum
8. The Great Below
9. Something I Can Never Have
10. All the Love in the World

[JOEinPHX]

Can’t fucking wait to hear this on a proper turntable/stereo a week from now. I know I’ll love it, just by the praise and the gripes it’s receiving. I still listen to Ghosts, The Social Network and TGWTDT all the time, almost always at night.

Nothing he does disappoints me, and until he drops a fucking hip-hop album with Little Wayne and Drake, I doubt anything ever will. Hesitation Marks will be played to the same degree as TDS, PHM and With_Teeth in my household. The next seven days can’t go by fast enough.

you think with teeth is the 3rd best nin album? thats surprising. i think its easily the weakest.

I never said that.

I just have an affinity for it. The songs were there at a time when a lot of other things weren't.

1. TDS
2. PHM
3. Year Zero
4. WT/The Fragile (depends on my mood)
5. Still
6. Broken
7. The Slip
8. Ghosts

I'm fairly certain that once I listen to HM a few times, it will easily jump to number 3 on that list.

Albums:

1. The Fragile
2. TDS
3. With_Teeth
4. Year Zero
5. Broken
6. PHM
7. The Slip
8. Still
9. Ghosts
10. Hesitation Marks


Songs:

1. We're In This Together
2. The Fragile
3. And All That Could Have Been
3. In This Twilight
4. Sunspots
5. Heresy
6. Home
7. The Way Out is Through
8. La Mer
9. All The Love in the World
10. The Hand That Feeds

[NYRexall]

I’m guessing Various Methods of Escape is the ballad torchbearer on HM? A lot of people are describing it as “beautiful”, “aching”, “sublime”, etc.

[kv]

I'm really liking Hesitation Marks. It has a few duds, most notably Came Back Haunted, Disappointed and Running (Running is just completely fucking useless - one of those songs that I'm truly befuddled by).

But for the most part, I really like the imbalance of it - the songs are kind of sparse, but have lots of unexpected flourishes and neat twists. Nothing mindblowing, but it's a sound I like. Lyrically, the man's been treading water for a long time, but he's never been a strong or interesting lyricist, so the repetitive lyrical themes don't bother me.

Favorites so far: Find My Way, All Time Low, Satellite, Various Methods of Escape, In Two

And, since others are doing it:

1. Wish
2. In This Twilight
3. Happiness in Slavery
4. Ruiner
5. Sanctified
6. The Good Soldier
7. Zero-Sum
8. The Great Below
9. Something I Can Never Have
10. All the Love in the World

LOOKIE A LURKER! thanks for posting, now do it more!

[Tyler Durden]

People commenting on things like the drums, try doing what we used to do when we bought a physical copy of music and listen to it more than once before forming an opinion.

I think every single album/ band I truly love was in some way a challenge to listen to/ understand. Nowadays, as music is so disposable, it's just "meh, I don't like the drums, fucking piece of shit, never gonna listen to that again..."

So true.

[kv]

i can't name a single album i hated that grew on me after a bunch of listens...some that were good that grew on me....some that were ok that after a bunch became good...but never something i hated...and trust me when i was a kid i'd force feed myself on a record i blew money on and didn't like

[Hokahey]

Anyone that ranks anything post The Fragile above anything pre The Fragile is either 12 or a crack head.

[Tyler Durden]

I'm 39 and have never done crack. Been listening to NIN since 1990.

My fav NIN albums are Pretty Hate Machine and Year Zero. I love some songs on The Downward Spiral while dislike some others (namely Piggy, Heresy, and Reptile). I suppose I feel the same way about The Fragile; there are great songs that are far better than anything on the other records...but also some crud far worse than on the other records (in my opinion). The lows on TDS and Fragile are just too clichéd. PHM and YZ just work better for me as whole albums.

Don't get me wrong, I think TDS and Fragile are very good albums. But I also think they buckle under the weight of excess and self indulgence at times. It's just a preference in style; some people favour Zeppelin I, other people favour Physical Graffiti.

P.S. I haven't listened to TDS in over 10 years and have never listened to Fragile in one sitting.

[farrellgirl99]

Albums:

1. TDS
2. Broken
3. Year Zero
4. The Fragile
5. Pretty Hate Machine
6. The Slip
7. With Teeth
8. Still
9. Ghosts

Not ranking HM yet.

I've never thought about my top 10. It seems too difficult. Besides Gave Up, which is my favorite, I don't know how to rank the others.

Songs:

1. Gave Up
2. We're in This Together
3. The Downward Spiral
4. Somewhat Damaged
5. Me, I'm Not
6. Kinda I Want To
7. Piggy
8. And All That Could Have Been
9. Lights in the Sky
10. The Great Below

[Hype]

This my favourite NIN song for some reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... UULc#t=270

[Jammyshill]

Anyone that ranks anything post The Fragile above anything pre The Fragile is either 12 or a crack head.

It's incredibly ironic that such a post would be akin to the mentality of a 12 year old. You're the stereotype who makes foreigners incorrectly assume that all Americans are loud mouth idiots with zero substance.

[perkana]

I actually enjoyed this show...First Time with Trent Reznor
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b039394l

[Tyler Durden]

I actually enjoyed this show...First Time with Trent Reznor
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b039394l

Thanks for posting this. A great listen.

[NYRexall]

My Top 15 Favorite Jane's Addiction records:

1. Ritual De Lo Habitual
2. Nothing's Shocking
3. Live at Hammerstein Ballroom 10/31/1997 (bootleg)
4. Kettle Whistle
5. A Cabinet of Curiousities Disc 3 (Live at the Palladium 12/19/90)
6. A Cabinet of Curiousities Disc 1 (Demos)
7. Mountain Songs (bootleg)
8. Jane's Addiction (1987)
9. A Cabinet of Curiousities Disc 2 (Demos, Rare and Live)
10. A Cabinet of Curiousities Disc 4 (Best Buy bonus disc live at Irvine Meadows, 7/23-24/91)
11. Classic Girl (CD single)
12. NINJA 2009 2-song tour sampler
13. Live & Rare
14. Up from the Catacombs: The Best of Jane's Addiction
15. So What!(Remixes)

[NYRexall]

http://pitchfork.com/news/52074-nine-in ... mastering/

Fuck yes. So glad I buy direct from this guy; the perks pay for themselves. I will now have TWO different versions of Hesitation Marks for my listening pleasure

[Hokahey]

Anyone that ranks anything post The Fragile above anything pre The Fragile is either 12 or a crack head.

It's incredibly ironic that such a post would be akin to the mentality of a 12 year old. You're the stereotype who makes foreigners incorrectly assume that all Americans are loud mouth idiots with zero substance.

Did you have your pinky raised while you typed this?

[Jammyshill]

Anyone that ranks anything post The Fragile above anything pre The Fragile is either 12 or a crack head.

It's incredibly ironic that such a post would be akin to the mentality of a 12 year old. You're the stereotype who makes foreigners incorrectly assume that all Americans are loud mouth idiots with zero substance.

Did you have your pinky raised while you typed this?

Keep digging.

[Tyler Durden]

Sounds more like New Order to me.

ITT we find out Tyler doesn't know who New Order is.

It sounds like Jimmy Eat World.

It is so bad.

"Both Hesitation Marks' lead single, ''Came Back Haunted,'' and the propulsive, New Order-nodding ''Everything'' rank among Reznor's finest." -- Entertainment Weekly

[Matz]

Entertainment Weekly is some sort of bible with all the right answers that we all have to adhere to, is that what you're saying?

I can't really believe Trent's getting that great review everywhere, I think he deserves a 2,8/5 or something. Lots of fans seem not that pleased though

[Tyler Durden]

Entertainment Weekly is some sort of bible with all the right answers that we all have to adhere to, is that what you're saying?

Nothing of the sort; why would you think that?

My point is that I'm not the only one who hears New Order in "Everything"...and that I've heard New Order many times before (despite what Hoka wants to tell himself).

The only place where I have read that this song sounds like Jimmy Eat World is here.