I dont pay attention to Sharon Osbourne...but after Randy Rhoads died, I'd say if it wasn't for her, Ozzy wouldn't have had a career...and probably would have ended up dead.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:05 pm
by Pandemonium
Well, I'm not purposely going to go out of my way to offend anyone here and I'm not going to waste anyone's time continuing this debate.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:52 pm
by Pure Method
that's about all we can ask of each other. ANR's golden rule:
Pandemonium wrote:Well, I'm not purposely going to go out of my way to offend anyone here and I'm not going to waste anyone's time continuing this debate.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:01 am
by lollapaloser
A lot of Irish people use that word very freely. My grandmother wasn't even offended by it, she thought it was funny, as does my aunt who is a prude. I can't even read that word without thinking of it pronounced in an Irish accent. I always just considered it in the same way nudity offends people here, but not so much in Europe. Some people definitely find it extremely offensive though. Kind of an interesting dichotomy.
Black Sabbath to continue reunion without Bill Ward
Metal legends dismiss drummer's complaints over 'unsignable' contract, saying their comeback will carry on without him
Sean Michaels
guardian.co.uk, Monday 6 February 2012 04.59 EST
Black Sabbath's comeback will take place without Bill Ward. The metal legends have announced they are moving on without their original drummer, dismissing his complaints about the terms of their reunion.
In a statement on their website, Ozzy Osbourne, Geezer Butler and Tony Iommi hardly seemed sympathetic to Ward's grievances. "We were saddened to hear via Facebook that Bill declined publicly to participate in our current [plans]," they wrote. "We have no choice but to continue recording without him although our door is always open."
Though the specifics of the dispute have not been revealed, Ward has emphasised his interest in and commitment to the group – he simply has issues with the contract. "My position is not greed-driven," Ward wrote on Thursday. "I'm not holding out for a 'big piece' of the action (money) like some kind of blackmail deal … [just] a signable contract … that reflects some dignity and respect toward me as an original member of the band."
Fans have been vocal in their respect for Ward's decision. "Your support from across the world has given me further strength and hope for a positive resolve," Ward wrote on Saturday . "I have been moved and overwhelmed by the thousands of messages. I love you all."
Meanwhile, Osbourne, Butler and Iommi have begun writing and recording their first album in 34 years. They are currently based in England, where Iommi is receiving treatment for cancer. Black Sabbath still plan to launch a world tour in May, including an appearance at June's Download festival. But it seems they will do so without Ward – who played on 10 of the band's first 11 albums.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:27 am
by Pandemonium
On one hand, Ward apparently did get a shitty deal when he signed on to do the late 90's reunion with Sabbath, but on the other hand, the guy is a shadow of his former self, even back on that reunion. Seeing as this may very well be the last time Tony Iommi tours even if he gets through the cancer issue, they should get their shit together if they seriously want to do this and not go out under rather pathetic circumstances. It's just kind of sad, Ward really stuck by Ozzy all these years, dropping out of Sabbath when Ozzy was out (although on at least one occasion, it was because he was an alcoholic mess and couldn't tour in '84).
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:36 pm
by Pandemonium
Looks like the reunion's falling apart. Now it's been announced the only show will be an "Ozzy and Friends" festival gig w/Geezer Butler and Zakk Wylde and probably whoever the replacement drummer is for Bill Ward at the Download this Summer. And it doesn't sound good for Iommi.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:42 pm
by Mescal
Pandemonium wrote:Looks like the reunion's falling apart. Now it's been announced the only show will be an "Ozzy and Friends" festival gig w/Geezer Butler and Zakk Wylde and probably whoever the replacement drummer is for Bill Ward at the Download this Summer. And it doesn't sound good for Iommi.
Yeah, Graspop in Belgium too.
Black Sabbath were scheduled to play, now it's just Ozzy
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:43 pm
by Mescal
Pandemonium wrote:On one hand, Ward apparently did get a shitty deal when he signed on to do the late 90's reunion with Sabbath, but on the other hand, the guy is a shadow of his former self, even back on that reunion. Seeing as this may very well be the last time Tony Iommi tours even if he gets through the cancer issue, they should get their shit together if they seriously want to do this and not go out under rather pathetic circumstances. It's just kind of sad, Ward really stuck by Ozzy all these years, dropping out of Sabbath when Ozzy was out (although on at least one occasion, it was because he was an alcoholic mess and couldn't tour in '84).
I saw that late 90's reunion show.
Ward indeed was terrible
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:59 pm
by Larry B.
Mescal wrote:
Pandemonium wrote:Looks like the reunion's falling apart. Now it's been announced the only show will be an "Ozzy and Friends" festival gig w/Geezer Butler and Zakk Wylde and probably whoever the replacement drummer is for Bill Ward at the Download this Summer. And it doesn't sound good for Iommi.
Yeah, Graspop in Belgium too.
Black Sabbath were scheduled to play, now it's just Ozzy
That sucks. I'm guessing Puff will be on drums...? Basically, same old Ozzy. Doesn't interest me at all. No historical value.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:08 am
by Juana
Yeah but I'm happy Zakk is going to be playing with him on these shows if Tony can not make the shows.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:37 am
by Mescal
I wasn't planning on going to the Sabbath reunion either.
I've been dissapointed too many times in these reunion things. JA is 20 beyond their time, Sabbath is 40.
Ozzy in very fine form here
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:17 am
by Mescal
It's gonna be Slash on guitar, not Zak.
I love Slash though.
Guns N Roses (well Axl and his hired Guns) are playing the same festival. Maybe there'll be a reunion
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:02 am
by Hokahey
I really wish the original GnR would reunite. Fake GnR sells out arenas as is. Imagine how well real GnR would do.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:24 pm
by Pandemonium
hokahey wrote:I really wish the original GnR would reunite. Fake GnR sells out arenas as is. Imagine how well real GnR would do.
They'd have to go with Matt Sorum on drums, Steven Adler can't cut it on the level a GnR show would demand anymore.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:32 pm
by Hokahey
Pandemonium wrote:
hokahey wrote:I really wish the original GnR would reunite. Fake GnR sells out arenas as is. Imagine how well real GnR would do.
They'd have to go with Matt Sorum on drums, Steven Adler can't cut it on the level a GnR show would demand anymore.
I think Axl, Slash and Duff would be enough for most people to feel like they're seeing the real deal.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:26 pm
by sonny
as far as GNR goes, i think even with duff and slash back in the picture, it's still gonna be the axl show, much like jane's addiction. it'll never be this rough scruffy band that everyone fell in love with. axl is too far gone.
in my opinion, some of these folks find moments of humbleness, speaking of perry, roth, eddie, axl, but as soon as they reach a reasonable amount of adoration from these sick die hard fans blow smoking up their ass, they fall right back into their ego driven self and it goes right back to that bad place that broke it all apart.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:30 pm
by sonny
as for black sabbath, i think ozzy and sharon will never forget how tommi and the band dumped him. it's amazing ozzy was able to have a career after black sabbath, but he was able to do so. and the reality is, he has the upper hand in any negotiations with that group of folks. he and sharon will never again, let them think for one second they can do this without ozzy. for that reason, the other 3 will never get an equal share, nor will they be treated as an equal.
ozzy doesn't need black sabbath. he can do those songs all day long with zakk and 90% of the people don't care.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:35 pm
by Hokahey
sonny wrote:as far as GNR goes, i think even with duff and slash back in the picture, it's still gonna be the axl show, much like jane's addiction. it'll never be this rough scruffy band that everyone fell in love with. axl is too far gone.
in my opinion, some of these folks find moments of humbleness, speaking of perry, roth, eddie, axl, but as soon as they reach a reasonable amount of adoration from these sick die hard fans blow smoking up their ass, they fall right back into their ego driven self and it goes right back to that bad place that broke it all apart.
So true.
I'm definitely more of a casual GnR fan, so it would be exciting for me. I wouldn't have any expectations that they be the band I fell in love with as a kid or anything.
Makes me think about the people going to see Jane's that feel that way too. I have some random friends on FB that I dont really talk to or know very well SO stoked for this show. I'm sure they couldn't name one band member outside of Dave and Perry and have no clue that the original bass player wont be there.
Ha. That reminded me of the time Esqfool and I (ran in to each other there) were seeing The Music at the same venue Jane's is playing and some guy was talking about how great it was that Eric was back in Jane's for Jubilee.
Which reminds me even further of the people around us at Jubilee that thought Martyn was Eric.
Man, I've been seeing Jane's shows with Esqfool for 11 years now.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:29 pm
by Artemis
I'm not going to start a seperate Black Sabbath, so will just put this here.
Charles Bradley cover of Changes.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:24 pm
by creep
sonny wrote:as for black sabbath, i think ozzy and sharon will never forget how tommi and the band dumped him. it's amazing ozzy was able to have a career after black sabbath, but he was able to do so. and the reality is, he has the upper hand in any negotiations with that group of folks. he and sharon will never again, let them think for one second they can do this without ozzy. for that reason, the other 3 will never get an equal share, nor will they be treated as an equal.
ozzy doesn't need black sabbath. he can do those songs all day long with zakk and 90% of the people don't care.
hey it's sonny.
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i guess he still pops his head in here every now and then
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:06 am
by Bandit72
Yesterday I went to see the Black Sabbath exhibition here where I live. Man it was great. The website below gives a flavour of what's there. They even had a rack of 8 guitars you could sit down and play! What still amazes me is when you see kids going around in awe, who obviously weren't even born when this music was written.
Ozzy looks and sounds fucked Can't see him on stage again unfortunately. Hoped to be proven wrong.
He actually looks pretty decent for his age and condition, Perry should look into whoever is doing the work on him. But I agree, he sounds just... feeble in that interview. He's had a few shows including one at the Hollywood Bowl postponed and rescheduled for a couple years now and he's still got a pretty heavy tour schedule set to start back up in May that runs through the end of the year that I just don't see happening at this point.
Re: Black Sabbath Reunites with Ozzy (again)
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:38 pm
by Pandemonium
A few recent photos of Ozzy sans all the makeup and hair dye have come out on the 'net. Seeing the pics, made me realize I had never listened to his last studio album which came out months ago. Weirdly, at least the first half of the album has somewhat of a Janes vibe to the music - think Ozzy singing over TGEA tracks.
