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[Hype]

I guess I find it difficult because I have bipolar and severely depressed friends (most of us do, even if we don't know it), and been with them in the midst of psychotic episodes... It's only hilarious because you don't know the guy, I think. When you know someone who is really mentally ill, it's frightening as hell, and very sad.

Like how it's not really all that funny to egg Zdilla on when he comes back to these boards... it's hard to do when you know the guy really has a problem, and could end up dead so easily.

That was some guy's life you just laughed at and watched self-destruct.

[Juana]

I guess I find it difficult because I have bipolar and severely depressed friends (most of us do, even if we don't know it), and been with them in the midst of psychotic episodes... It's only hilarious because you don't know the guy, I think. When you know someone who is really mentally ill, it's frightening as hell, and very sad.

Like how it's not really all that funny to egg Zdilla on when he comes back to these boards... it's hard to do when you know the guy really has a problem, and could end up dead so easily.

That was some guy's life you just laughed at and watched self-destruct.

Well if you know anything about his up bringing that also explains how he dealt with his issues as well. He was his own person and he talked about the side of the world that none of us want to admit exists. Whether we know it or not a lot of musicians today cite GG as an influence.

If you believe in the real underground of Rock 'N' Roll, then now is the time to do something about it. The time is now to overthrow the current situations and declare war on the record companies, radio stations, publications, clubs, and anyone who promotes the whole so called "scene" as it now stands. We need to destroy it all and take it back from the corporate phonies and conformist. But action must be taken now and blood must be spilled. First let me tell you who I am. I was born Jesus Christ Allin in 1956 in Lancaster, NH. The Jesus Christ they preach about in the Bible is a phony imposter - just a crutch for the cripples to lean on. Fuck that weak shit! I am the man to deal with. I created myself inside the womb from the fires of Hell. There are no separations between Jesus Christ, God and the Devil, because I am all of them. I am here to take Rock 'N' Roll back & prove to the world that I am the real king through the powers I have acquired. When I was born in 1956, Rock 'N' Roll first started taking off. Why do you think that was? Because I created it. I created Elvis. I made it all happen. Even before I was born I was plotting. But through the years everyone has let it all go. That's why I am ready to take it all back. Nobody has held on. Nobody has had the indurence to finish what they were set out to fucking do. They all let me down or I took their lives for a purpose. I was the one who was throwing all the monkey wrenches into the gears. But money and commercialism made them all sell out. Even Iggy let me down. The Sex Pistols let me down. Sid let me down when he fell in love (that's why they are all dead). And now we have the Ramones praising bands like Guns N' Roses, which runs against everything they were set out to destroy. But now it's 1991. This is the decade for the final bloody mutilation. Time to get Rock 'N' Roll out of the hands of the masses and back to the people who will not accept comfort or conformity at any cost. Then I will commit suicide on stage and the blood of Rock 'N' Roll will become the poison of the Universe forever. Take a look around and see what's happening. Spineless record companies kissing the mainstreams ass, being pressured by the money media and politicians. So called cutting edge radio stations as fucking lame as the stations they oppose. Censorship publications kissing the monkey suits asses, who in turn, are kissing someone else's ass. Even so called "underground" publications have no fucking desire to get blood on their hands. They are too busy crying about how we can make the world a more wonderful place and how politically correct they can be. Talk is fucking cheap. It's time to fight. It's time for revenge. We need to overthrow Rock 'N' Roll as it now stands. We must bring down record companies by not buying their products. A boycot. If you have to have a record, steal it. That way they wont get your money. We've got to stop feeding them. Your support must now go to me - GG Allin, the commanding leader and terrorist of Rock 'N' Roll. Why do you think I am in prison right now? Because they know who I am and they fear my reality. Our society wants to stop my mission. They want to brain wash you and keep you locked into MTV, and their stagnating, safe worlds. It's a plot to kill Rock 'N' Roll. I am the savior. Thats why I am considered a threat to society. This is what you should do: Go to your record store and buy all the GG ALLIN recordings you can find. If they dont have any in stock, tell them to order some. If they refuse, then do what you have to do. Call radio stations and demand GG Allin. Spray paint "GG ALLIN" everywhere. Make them aware that the disease and the Scumfuc tradition is still spreading. Write "GG ALLIN" on all your dollar bills. Any bills you have. People do not throw money away, so it would be a free way to get the message out. You must do it every day of your life. We must live for the Rock 'N' Roll underground. It CAN be dark and dangerous again. It CAN be threatning to our society as it was meant to be. IT MUST BE UNCOMPROMISING. And with me as your leader, it will happen. I am ready to lead you, my allies, into the real Rock 'N' Roll underground. Let's get started

[Hype]

Yeah, I'm aware of the influence he's had... But being reminded of that micropenised shit-eating violent misogynist nutcase suddenly bothered me. Didn't mean to hijack the thread.

[Juana]

No worries in a lot of it, it was an act its strange to see interviews in which he was lucid and then in the others where is was completely manic...

Anyway I'm listening to Operation Ivy right now

[Hype]

No worries in a lot of it, it was an act its strange to see interviews in which he was lucid and then in the others where is was completely manic...

Anyway I'm listening to Operation Ivy right now

That's exactly what it's like to have a bipolar friend. Swings back and forth between lucid normalcy and fucking insanity (at least, when their meds aren't working, or they're not following instructions properly...)

[pandarve666]

Sorry, but I think you're overreacting. Some people have problems but that should be no reason not to speak out or not to post certain music. You don't have to watch it if you don't want to. I hear crap music on the radio and see sick stuff on the news that is far worse than watching an idiot eating his own shit and figting his public to get some attention. Then you might just as well say that we should just bann all the tv journals because all the negativity might help some people to make the decision to kill themselves.

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[Hype]

Sorry, but I think you're overreacting. Some people have problems but that should be no reason not to speak out or not to post certain music. You don't have to watch it if you don't want to. I hear crap music on the radio and see sick stuff on the news that is far worse than watching an idiot eating his own shit and figting his public to get some attention. Then you might just as well say that we should just bann all the tv journals because all the negativity might help some people to make the decision to kill themselves.

I didn't say don't post it, or anything even close to that. I just described my reaction to it (especially the micropenis... good god... what the hell was that shit? a peach with a toothpick in it? ). It's all good man.

[pandarve666]

yeah the man really knows no shame

[Juana]

yeah the man really knows no shame

But if you read his stuff from his prison stint he was creating a character, I have no doubt he was messed up but even in the video you just posted he was calculated in his performance it just escalated into craziness from his addictions.

[Pandemonium]

yeah the man really knows no shame

But if you read his stuff from his prison stint he was creating a character, I have no doubt he was messed up but even in the video you just posted he was calculated in his performance it just escalated into craziness from his addictions.

The man was unbalanced long before drugs and alcohol ever entered the picture. My recollection is that he had a very fucked up childhood, his dad was a hillbilly nutcase living in the woods in a log cabin or some such, parents (wotta shock) divorced before Allen was even in school and Allin was just a trainwreck through what grade school he made it through. There's no doubt he had significant psychological issues and his childhood upbringing only made them worse. The kid was really doomed from the get-go. Substances just peppered the stew, so to speak.

IMO, despite Allin's rep among the alt-punk crowd as some sort of major artistic force, I always thought he was more along the lines of people like Darby Crash and Wendy O'Williams - intensely extroverted performers with very limited artistic talent surrounded by generally inept hack musicians who were really more compelling because especially live, they had no "Off" switch who fed off the response to the only thing they could do well onstage - be outrageous. Never had a desire to see him live, just like I don't care to see a monkey flinging shit at the zoo.

There's just a huge difference between a guy like GG Allin and other so-called outrageous musical performers like Iggy Pop or Jim Morrison - those two had actual talent.

[Pure Method]

yeah the man really knows no shame

But if you read his stuff from his prison stint he was creating a character, I have no doubt he was messed up but even in the video you just posted he was calculated in his performance it just escalated into craziness from his addictions.

The man was unbalanced long before drugs and alcohol ever entered the picture. My recollection is that he had a very fucked up childhood, his dad was a hillbilly nutcase living in the woods in a log cabin or some such, parents (wotta shock) divorced before Allen was even in school and Allin was just a trainwreck through what grade school he made it through. There's no doubt he had significant psychological issues and his childhood upbringing only made them worse. The kid was really doomed from the get-go. Substances just peppered the stew, so to speak.

IMO, despite Allin's rep among the alt-punk crowd as some sort of major artistic force, I always thought he was more along the lines of people like Darby Crash and Wendy O'Williams - intensely extroverted performers with very limited artistic talent surrounded by generally inept hack musicians who were really more compelling because especially live, they had no "Off" switch who fed off the response to the only thing they could do well onstage - be outrageous. Never had a desire to see him live, just like I don't care to see a monkey flinging shit at the zoo.

There's just a huge difference between a guy like GG Allin and other so-called outrageous musical performers like Iggy Pop or Jim Morrison - those two had actual talent.

i like the germs

[Pandemonium]

i like the germs

I do (or did) too. I also liked some of Wendy O'Williams stuff. But I can objectively realize some of the so-called artists I like aren't exactly good definitions of "artistic talent" and may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[Juana]

[Juana]

[jptm]

beautiful song; great band

[Matz]

this is badass. What a genius that Claypool guy is. Anyone know who that guitar player is, his solo is amazing?

[kv]

[kv]

thats the wrong link

meant this

[Xizen47]

this is badass. What a genius that Claypool guy is. Anyone know who that guitar player is, his solo is amazing?

That's Eenor, he played with Claypool in the Frog Brigade. I took guitar lessons from him about 7-8 years ago, really nice guy! It was a pretty sweet feeling jamming on the same guitar he's playing in that video

[Matz]

thanks for the info! Must have been awesome taking lessons from a guy like that, really good player

[Artemis]

[Artemis]

[Artemis]

[Matz]

this is badass. What a genius that Claypool guy is. Anyone know who that guitar player is, his solo is amazing?

That's Eenor, he played with Claypool in the Frog Brigade. I took guitar lessons from him about 7-8 years ago, really nice guy! It was a pretty sweet feeling jamming on the same guitar he's playing in that video

I did a little investigation on the guy. Turns out his real name is Todd Huth and that he was actually the original guitar player in Primus. Not only that he also wrote the guitar parts for the songs featured on the first couple of albums. So he and not Larry LaLonde invented that whole Primus guitar style! Very cool, it makes him a legend in my book. Much more inventive than a guy like Clapton fx.