Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul

[Jasper]

creep, if you're out there, I think it's definitely time to rename this thread "Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul" or something like that.

Only 10 days after Better Call Saul creators Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould revealed that in the Breaking Bad prequel series Bob Odenkirk‘s title character will actually be known as Jimmy McGill, here he is in the flesh. A photo of a billboard along I-25 in Albuquerque advertising the services of a younger-looking Odenkirk as attorney James M. McGill, was snapped by a commuter. I’ve learned the billboard is a prop put up for an episode of the AMC series, which films in the New Mexico town that also housed Breaking Bad. For maximum authenticity and a nod to the local community that had embraced the franchise, the number on the billboard also is real, greeting callers with a recorded message by Odenkirk as McGill. Slated for a 2015 premiere, Better Call Saul, from Sony TV, will track the transformation of McGill, a small-time lawyer hustling to make ends meet, into Saul Goodman.

http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/better- ... -odenkirk/

[creep]

of course i tried the number. didn't work for me.

[Jasper]

I'm going to try the number soon.

[creep]

not much but something...

[Essence_Smith]

So at the suggestion of basically EVERYONE who's ever watched B-Bad, I began watching the show a few weeks ago...just saw the last episode last night, and wow...definitely one of the best TV series I've ever seen and worthy of all the praise it gets. I was very happy with the ending and look forward to the spin off. I got to meet Giancarlo Esposito at NY Comic Con and it was only then I realized that he'd also played in Spike Lee's Do the Right Thing back in the days...nice guy, but all in all glad I took a chance on the series, it was a pleasant surprise and I was hooked immediately. I am however glad that I didn't watch this while it was actually on the air because I am a serious binge watcher and waiting would have spoiled it...

I was having a conversation with a close friend and mentioned that I could actually relate quite a bit to Walt's character...without getting into my business too much I was faced with a situation that was kind of similar and chose to give in, and eventually ego, etc definitely takes over and it becomes completely about how doing something wrong makes YOU feel and less about the reasons you say you're doing it for...I say all this to say I was glad that Walt finally admitted that he did it all for himself in the end...that to me was part of what made this show special...and I knew Jesse would live...they tortured that dude every step of the way...

Sooooooo... why in the world were people thinking Walt JR was going to kill people at some point in the show???

[SR]

Sooooooo... why in the world were people thinking Walt JR was going to kill people at some point in the show???

Because there would be for him a moral superiority in retribution.

[creep]

i wasn't 100% sold on the first episode. one more episode tomorrow and i should have a better idea about this.

[Jasper]

That was hands-down, the absolute greatest premiere episode of any series of television ever aired, and if you persist in saying differently, creep, I will track you down and I will burn down your boat or sink your house or otherwise visit holy hell upon your current domicile.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Now I've just got to ahead and actually watch it. You have until I've finished to recant.

[Juana]

That was hands-down, the absolute greatest premiere episode of any series of television ever aired, and if you persist in saying differently, creep, I will track you down and I will burn down your boat or sink your house or otherwise visit holy hell upon your current domicile.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Now I've just got to ahead and actually watch it. You have until I've finished to recant.

I loved it and also AMC ordered season 2 just based on that episode.

[SR]

I can't believe I missed it

[Matz]

cool, can't wait to check it out...it'll probably already premiere here about a year from now

[SR]

Where can I see this episode online?

[Hype]

Where can I see this episode online?

http://www.icefilms.info/ip.php?v=204348&

Any of those links should work, but I'd recommend having Ad-Block Plus enabled, and be warned that some of the sites have two or more "download" buttons, but only some of them are real. It's best to install the Icefilms plugin and then click one of the buttons it loads on the site (it's safer).

[SR]

Where can I see this episode online?

http://www.icefilms.info/ip.php?v=204348&

Any of those links should work, but I'd recommend having Ad-Block Plus enabled, and be warned that some of the sites have two or more "download" buttons, but only some of them are real. It's best to install the Icefilms plugin and then click one of the buttons it loads on the site (it's safer).

Is all of that hard? Remember I am the grandpa of the boards. I just saw that AMC is replaying the episode before the second one airs. I really don't want to wait.

[Hype]

Where can I see this episode online?

http://www.icefilms.info/ip.php?v=204348&

Any of those links should work, but I'd recommend having Ad-Block Plus enabled, and be warned that some of the sites have two or more "download" buttons, but only some of them are real. It's best to install the Icefilms plugin and then click one of the buttons it loads on the site (it's safer).

Is all of that hard? Remember I am the grandpa of the boards. I just saw that AMC is replaying the episode before the second one airs. I really don't want to wait.

It can be a little bit tricky to wrap your head around if you're not familiar with it. It's very simple though. The way Icefilms works, you install their plugin for Chrome. It's linked right at the top of the homepage ("ICE Quick Stream 6.3"), but here's the link to the Chrome store link: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... bl/details

I've looked at the source code and there's nothing sinister involved, it just makes visiting the actual websites the files are stored on easier/safer.

So, install that plugin.

Then go back to the first link and click one of the options (either HD or DVD quality... shouldn't make too much difference). I usually rely on the Billion Uploads links, or Movreel. On any of these websites, you should see a big rectangular black Icefilms window in the top left corner of the page (super-imposed overtop of the actual webpage). There are little buttons to choose from available streaming or downloading options: Flash, DivX, VLC, and just straight download.

Downloading is the most straightforward. It will just download the file for you and you can play it with whatever video player you want. Flash is also very straightforward. It will load in the window like any flash video and you can wait for it to buffer so you don't experience any stuttering.

Give it a shot. I watched it this morning. Great start to the series. Has me wondering why/how he ends up changing his name to Saul Goodman already

[SR]

You so rule

[Essence_Smith]

I missed this too...actually no need to check third party sites, AMC put it up on their site:

http://www.amctv.com/full-episodes/bett ... 898001/uno

[Hype]

I missed this too...actually no need to check third party sites, AMC put it up on their site:

http://www.amctv.com/full-episodes/bett ... 898001/uno

It's a little tricky to get access to these streams for people outside the US (which is why sites like Icefilms still exist), but I do prefer to use them when I can. AMC appears to be available to Canadians without any fiddling with plugins!

For a while I was able to get Conan to stream with a proxy plugin, but they seem to have wised up (so, back to downloading for me).

[SR]

Contemptible follow up

[SR]

2nd is better

[Hype]

What was contemptible?

[Essence_Smith]

Great debut...I didn't think the Saul character had enough to carry a series and my gut tells me I was wrong. Imo it's a great spin-off and I'm hard pressed to find anything about it that I didn't like, though it feels like a slower show...as for it being contemptible... I've had a standing argument with a friend who doesn't like the concept of the "prequel" as he feels it limits where a show or film can go because you already know where the characters will end up, etc. Like the show Gotham that features a young Bruce Wayne, he feels it sucks because no matter what they put the character through he eventually ends up becoming Batman...I always tell him the joy of the prequel is in the journey and not the destination. I'd love to see how Jimmy becomes Saul...Tuco popping up was a nice surprise...the situation with his father, his "office", that CAR (LOL)...we know that the writing is in good hands...I'm just saying I'm doing my best to watch without prejudice...

[Juana]

I just love how they started the show with him working at a Cinnabon as a manager given how he left Breaking Bad shouting: "If I'm lucky, a month from now, best-case scenario, I'm managing a Cinnabon in Omaha."

[SR]

Well, I was referring to a couple of things....first the Tuco scene. Really, yo? Did those kids really say that? It just fell flat...the whole scene. Tuco was symbolic in BB. His death was the catalyst for so much that seeing him sauté tomatoes seemed still born to me.

I went back and watched it. It's laying some great groundwork.

[Hype]

To be perfectly honest, the two skater-kids are clearly playing the same kind of role as Jesse's idiot friends in BB. Vince Gilligan seems to have a signature style that he's reproducing fairly straightforwardly: beautiful shots, intense scenes, cut up by really hackneyed lines and bad jokes. It worked in Breaking Bad, though I remember finding the dialogue really annoying.

One thing that threw me off about the two young guys is that they look like douchey hipster-ish beardo trust-fund longboarders from 2010+, not the kind of kids you'd see skating in the early 2000s (which is when this is clearly set with the flip phones and whatnot). Even their wardrobe didn't look right (the one guy had a burton shirt on, which sort of makes sense, but it's not a style that would've been common back then). With Vince Gilligan it's never clear whether this kind of thing is intentional/symbolism/whatever, but it was annoying. It might be a subtle version of epic theater (like the stupid dialogue) to get the audience to be a bit critical of what's going on on the screen.