Re: Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:07 am
Jimmy (VG) might have pointed out that F. Lee Baily never went to law school.
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agreed. this one felt off, especially for a finale. his friend dying was pretty corny and felt below the series.creep wrote:well...they saved the worst for last. it was a disappointing finale. i still loved the season though.
Yeah that ep was average at best until the last 10 mins or so... then it got better... I hope he's still Jimmy next season... I like seeing the formative year(s)...farrellgirl99 wrote:agreed. this one felt off, especially for a finale. his friend dying was pretty corny and felt below the series.creep wrote:well...they saved the worst for last. it was a disappointing finale. i still loved the season though.
definitely an enjoyable season. not what i was expecting when i came in to it, but the slow, measured feel of most of the season worked for the show. we'll see what happens when more breaking bad characters find their way to saul. i wonder if it will feel like less of it's own thing then or if they will be able to pull it off and maintain the distinction.
I think there was a lot to like about it, but I guess it just didn't have that finale flair for a lot of us. Some of it was a bit slow, like the bingo scene which was good, but seemed a bit overlong. I liked his fat scumbag friend, who was straight out of vaudeville, and I especially liked the stylized throwback sequence with them scamming multiple dupes. I had some trouble buying Jimmy's sudden change of heart at the end, where he's about to get a job which will make him legally rich, stick it to his detractors, and impress Kim, but out of some weird loyalty to his loser scumbag friend he instead decides to make himself look like a jackass, put himself at risk, and prove his brother right by deciding to somehow make money being a scummy criminal lawyer. That move to go completely crooked would have been more believable if he hadn't had the big job offer, but instead simply had his spirit (and morals) broken by his brother's betrayal. Some tempting opportunity to make money illegaly working with criminals would have been a good motivator on top of that.SR wrote:I'm on the opposite end of virtually everyone here on this series. I thought the finale was the one of the strongest, if not the strongest of the season.
Yeah that whole "turning point" was a bit much...Jasper wrote:I think there was a lot to like about it, but I guess it just didn't have that finale flair for a lot of us. Some of it was a bit slow, like the bingo scene which was good, but seemed a bit overlong. I liked his fat scumbag friend, who was straight out of vaudeville, and I especially liked the stylized throwback sequence with them scamming multiple dupes. I had some trouble buying Jimmy's sudden change of heart at the end, where he's about to get a job which will make him legally rich, stick it to his detractors, and impress Kim, but out of some weird loyalty to his loser scumbag friend he instead decides to make himself look like a jackass, put himself at risk, and prove his brother right by deciding to somehow make money being a scummy criminal lawyer. That move to go completely crooked would have been more believable if he hadn't had the big job offer, but instead simply had his spirit (and morals) broken by his brother's betrayal. Some tempting opportunity to make money illegaly working with criminals would have been a good motivator on top of that.SR wrote:I'm on the opposite end of virtually everyone here on this series. I thought the finale was the one of the strongest, if not the strongest of the season.
So little time here....I see your points, but I love the insanely diverse drops in info in the finale.....the x wife, the x friend, the old friend, the complacency turned to determination, the back stories of the previous episodes...., and the OFFER....there is still ample room for Jimmy/Saul to be a scummy lawyer there, and I expect he will infect it.nausearockpig wrote:Yeah that whole "turning point" was a bit much...Jasper wrote:I think there was a lot to like about it, but I guess it just didn't have that finale flair for a lot of us. Some of it was a bit slow, like the bingo scene which was good, but seemed a bit overlong. I liked his fat scumbag friend, who was straight out of vaudeville, and I especially liked the stylized throwback sequence with them scamming multiple dupes. I had some trouble buying Jimmy's sudden change of heart at the end, where he's about to get a job which will make him legally rich, stick it to his detractors, and impress Kim, but out of some weird loyalty to his loser scumbag friend he instead decides to make himself look like a jackass, put himself at risk, and prove his brother right by deciding to somehow make money being a scummy criminal lawyer. That move to go completely crooked would have been more believable if he hadn't had the big job offer, but instead simply had his spirit (and morals) broken by his brother's betrayal. Some tempting opportunity to make money illegaly working with criminals would have been a good motivator on top of that.SR wrote:I'm on the opposite end of virtually everyone here on this series. I thought the finale was the one of the strongest, if not the strongest of the season.
Huh, I have been looking for those indicators, but have been stranded with the high drama of Saul's late night jaunts to quell his guilt with his girl burning the midnight oil on billings. Maybe I have missed the groundwork being laid, but even if I have, it is taking a painfully long time to establish. Even Saul's general disposition is oddly tentative....no sign yet of the cagey confidence of being ahead of the game in his restricted domain of unethical legalese. I'll continue to watch and hope that you're right though.Jasper wrote:I enjoy the languid pace. The tension will undoubtedly be ratcheted up as things progress. I don't know how much it will overlap with with the Breaking Bad timeline, but more edgy drama will inevitably arise as Mike and Jimmy become more deeply entangled with the criminal world and its colorful psychopaths like Hector and Gus. Mike's now teetering on the precipice of his own death spiral.
There's also the question of how far the timeline might extend beyond the finale of Breaking Bad, which finds Jimmy is in a very precarious position.
and tonight we get the cousins.Jasper wrote:It was good to see Hector again. He is one creepy fucker.