Aint No Right

Jimmy (VG) might have pointed out that F. Lee Baily never went to law school.

I like this show more and more as it moves forward. I almost kind of wish Saul wasn't getting introduced for another season.

I'd like to see more of the bullshit he goes through to get to that point, to be honest.

Odenkirk's too old I think... they had to make the show the recent-past of the first season of Breaking Bad, which was what... six or seven years ago now? So Bob Odenkirk is playing a character who is at least 10 or 11 years younger than he was at the end of Breaking Bad... Makeup and post-processing can only do so much.

well...they saved the worst for last. it was a disappointing finale. i still loved the season though.

creep wrote:well...they saved the worst for last. it was a disappointing finale. i still loved the season though.

agreed. this one felt off, especially for a finale. his friend dying was pretty corny and felt below the series.

definitely an enjoyable season. not what i was expecting when i came in to it, but the slow, measured feel of most of the season worked for the show. we'll see what happens when more breaking bad characters find their way to saul. i wonder if it will feel like less of it's own thing then or if they will be able to pull it off and maintain the distinction.

farrellgirl99 wrote:

creep wrote:well...they saved the worst for last. it was a disappointing finale. i still loved the season though.

agreed. this one felt off, especially for a finale. his friend dying was pretty corny and felt below the series.

definitely an enjoyable season. not what i was expecting when i came in to it, but the slow, measured feel of most of the season worked for the show. we'll see what happens when more breaking bad characters find their way to saul. i wonder if it will feel like less of it's own thing then or if they will be able to pull it off and maintain the distinction.

Yeah that ep was average at best until the last 10 mins or so... then it got better... I hope he's still Jimmy next season... I like seeing the formative year(s)...

Agreed. I like Jimmy too.

I hope we get another season of Jimmy.

I don't think the episode was bad, but it was a relatively weak installment, especially for a finale.

I admire how they kept it light and breezy (relative to Breaking Bad, and not including Mike's backstory episode) and relatively mellow throughout the entire season. That took some guts. There must have been the temptation to ratchet up the drama/violence, but I think they're taking a long-term view of things so that they have room to grow dramatically as the seasons progress and Jimmy and Mike become entangled with bigger and badder criminals. This approach also helped to give the show its own distinctive feel.

I'm looking forward to season two.

I'm on the opposite end of virtually everyone here on this series. I thought the finale was the one of the strongest, if not the strongest of the season.

SR wrote:I'm on the opposite end of virtually everyone here on this series. I thought the finale was the one of the strongest, if not the strongest of the season.

I think there was a lot to like about it, but I guess it just didn't have that finale flair for a lot of us. Some of it was a bit slow, like the bingo scene which was good, but seemed a bit overlong. I liked his fat scumbag friend, who was straight out of vaudeville, and I especially liked the stylized throwback sequence with them scamming multiple dupes. I had some trouble buying Jimmy's sudden change of heart at the end, where he's about to get a job which will make him legally rich, stick it to his detractors, and impress Kim, but out of some weird loyalty to his loser scumbag friend he instead decides to make himself look like a jackass, put himself at risk, and prove his brother right by deciding to somehow make money being a scummy criminal lawyer. That move to go completely crooked would have been more believable if he hadn't had the big job offer, but instead simply had his spirit (and morals) broken by his brother's betrayal. Some tempting opportunity to make money illegaly working with criminals would have been a good motivator on top of that.

Jasper wrote:

SR wrote:I'm on the opposite end of virtually everyone here on this series. I thought the finale was the one of the strongest, if not the strongest of the season.

I think there was a lot to like about it, but I guess it just didn't have that finale flair for a lot of us. Some of it was a bit slow, like the bingo scene which was good, but seemed a bit overlong. I liked his fat scumbag friend, who was straight out of vaudeville, and I especially liked the stylized throwback sequence with them scamming multiple dupes. I had some trouble buying Jimmy's sudden change of heart at the end, where he's about to get a job which will make him legally rich, stick it to his detractors, and impress Kim, but out of some weird loyalty to his loser scumbag friend he instead decides to make himself look like a jackass, put himself at risk, and prove his brother right by deciding to somehow make money being a scummy criminal lawyer. That move to go completely crooked would have been more believable if he hadn't had the big job offer, but instead simply had his spirit (and morals) broken by his brother's betrayal. Some tempting opportunity to make money illegaly working with criminals would have been a good motivator on top of that.

Yeah that whole "turning point" was a bit much...

nausearockpig wrote:

Jasper wrote:

SR wrote:I'm on the opposite end of virtually everyone here on this series. I thought the finale was the one of the strongest, if not the strongest of the season.

I think there was a lot to like about it, but I guess it just didn't have that finale flair for a lot of us. Some of it was a bit slow, like the bingo scene which was good, but seemed a bit overlong. I liked his fat scumbag friend, who was straight out of vaudeville, and I especially liked the stylized throwback sequence with them scamming multiple dupes. I had some trouble buying Jimmy's sudden change of heart at the end, where he's about to get a job which will make him legally rich, stick it to his detractors, and impress Kim, but out of some weird loyalty to his loser scumbag friend he instead decides to make himself look like a jackass, put himself at risk, and prove his brother right by deciding to somehow make money being a scummy criminal lawyer. That move to go completely crooked would have been more believable if he hadn't had the big job offer, but instead simply had his spirit (and morals) broken by his brother's betrayal. Some tempting opportunity to make money illegaly working with criminals would have been a good motivator on top of that.

Yeah that whole "turning point" was a bit much...

So little time here....I see your points, but I love the insanely diverse drops in info in the finale.....the x wife, the x friend, the old friend, the complacency turned to determination, the back stories of the previous episodes...., and the OFFER....there is still ample room for Jimmy/Saul to be a scummy lawyer there, and I expect he will infect it.

average start to the season. not much happened. a little slow.

I didn't even realize it came back today. Thanks for the reminder.

I really like this show.

Jimmy could do almost anything and I would watch it.

the sundance channel has been doing a breaking bad marathon every wednesday night for the past few months - they air four episodes every wednesday. so ive been enraptured with breaking bad again. theyre up to the last episode of season 3 so shit is about to get real. bb is so fucking good.

i enjoy better call saul but the slow pace gets to me in some scenes. still like watching it though.

Better Call Saul is more cerebral. It's getting into Jimmy's head. How he thinks. Why he thinks the way he does. Why he makes the decisions that he does.

With Breaking Bad, it was all about the consequences of Walt's actions.

some of the scenes drag on....like that fucking bingo scene from last season but it's still a great show.

It was good to see Hector again. He is one creepy fucker.

This show was written on near lethal doses of dilaudid.

I enjoy the languid pace. The tension will undoubtedly be ratcheted up as things progress. I don't know how much it will overlap with with the Breaking Bad timeline, but more edgy drama will inevitably arise as Mike and Jimmy become more deeply entangled with the criminal world and its colorful psychopaths like Hector and Gus. Mike's now teetering on the precipice of his own death spiral.

There's also the question of how far the timeline might extend beyond the finale of Breaking Bad, which finds Jimmy is in a very precarious position.

i'm liking this season more than last season.

Jasper wrote:I enjoy the languid pace. The tension will undoubtedly be ratcheted up as things progress. I don't know how much it will overlap with with the Breaking Bad timeline, but more edgy drama will inevitably arise as Mike and Jimmy become more deeply entangled with the criminal world and its colorful psychopaths like Hector and Gus. Mike's now teetering on the precipice of his own death spiral.

There's also the question of how far the timeline might extend beyond the finale of Breaking Bad, which finds Jimmy is in a very precarious position.

Huh, I have been looking for those indicators, but have been stranded with the high drama of Saul's late night jaunts to quell his guilt with his girl burning the midnight oil on billings. Maybe I have missed the groundwork being laid, but even if I have, it is taking a painfully long time to establish. Even Saul's general disposition is oddly tentative....no sign yet of the cagey confidence of being ahead of the game in his restricted domain of unethical legalese. I'll continue to watch and hope that you're right though.

After careful consideration, I still can't make up my mind. Kim Wexlar or Betsy Kettleman. I'll take both.

Otherwise, this show is the bomb. I agree with Jasper, I'm also enjoying the languid pace very much. You just know when they tank things up, it'll be an award winning rollercoaster. Do we know how many series are planned?

Jasper wrote:It was good to see Hector again. He is one creepy fucker.

and tonight we get the cousins.

i wonder if we see gus this season?