NIN + Jesus And Mary Chain Tour
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Oh... Jesus and Mary Chain has to be one of the most boring bands I have seen live. Hopefully they have worked on their stage presence.
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They were always too “wall of noise for me”. All the goths I used to hang with in the 90s fucking loved them for some reason.creep wrote:Oh... Jesus and Mary Chain has to be one of the most boring bands I have seen live. Hopefully they have worked on their stage presence.
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I never really liked them. The only reason I saw them was because they played Lollapalooza.nausearockpig wrote:They were always too “wall of noise for me”. All the goths I used to hang with in the 90s fucking loved them for some reason.creep wrote:Oh... Jesus and Mary Chain has to be one of the most boring bands I have seen live. Hopefully they have worked on their stage presence.
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yeah, something like that, happens to most of them though, look at the Chili Peppers, Jane's, Billy Corgan etc. Talent fades....
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I agree their virtually cardboard cutouts on stage but I love that wall of sound feedback nails-on-chalkboard guitar sound they have on a lot of songs.nausearockpig wrote:They were always too “wall of noise for me”. All the goths I used to hang with in the 90s fucking loved them for some reason.creep wrote:Oh... Jesus and Mary Chain has to be one of the most boring bands I have seen live. Hopefully they have worked on their stage presence.
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i found the guitars too fuzzy, to the point that I couldn't really discern the songs.. but that was what I remember thinking back then.. ~20 years ago.. I should revisit...Pandemonium wrote:I agree their virtually cardboard cutouts on stage but I love that wall of sound feedback nails-on-chalkboard guitar sound they have on a lot of songs.nausearockpig wrote:They were always too “wall of noise for me”. All the goths I used to hang with in the 90s fucking loved them for some reason.creep wrote:Oh... Jesus and Mary Chain has to be one of the most boring bands I have seen live. Hopefully they have worked on their stage presence.
Best album for a noob?
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A lot of hardcore fans say their debut album "Psychocandy" but I say "Automatic." Although they only put out maybe 6 or 7 studio albums, they have a ton of great B-Sides and I'd actually highly recommend "Barbed Wire Kisses" which collects many non-album rare tracks over several of their studio albums.nausearockpig wrote:i found the guitars too fuzzy, to the point that I couldn't really discern the songs.. but that was what I remember thinking back then.. ~20 years ago.. I should revisit...
Best album for a noob?
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Thanks Panda!
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It really is, I can't get it out of my head. He copies the drums, horns, singing style, sampling, incredible. Wtf was he thinking? And to make matters worse he copies from Black Star, Bowie final and ultra personal album. I've been trying to think of worse cases than this one when it comes to rip offs, but I can't.Pandemonium wrote:The Bowie thieving is pretty bad on this tune."creep wrote:I haven't heard every song but that is one of the worst I have heardMatz wrote:is that the worst song he's ever done, let's do a poll
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To be fair, bowie did take A LOT from trent et al during the earthling/outside era. And then there's that cover Trent did of "I can't give everything away" on their last tour, which featured bowie's vocals and i guess that had to be OKed by Bowie's estate or sth?Matz wrote:It really is, I can't get it out of my head. He copies the drums, horns, singing style, sampling, incredible. Wtf was he thinking? And to make matters worse he copies from Black Star, Bowie final and ultra personal album. I've been trying to think of worse cases than this one when it comes to rip offs, but I can't.Pandemonium wrote:The Bowie thieving is pretty bad on this tune."creep wrote:I haven't heard every song but that is one of the worst I have heardMatz wrote:is that the worst song he's ever done, let's do a poll
Of course it sounds really similar to Blackstar (i'd say it sounds a bit more like bowie's posthumous No Plan EP, in that its spacier and less song-y if that makes sense) but i wouldn't call it thieving or ripping off, more like honoring a great great late superstar who also took shit from him
oh by the way hi all
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i hear you hoka. i was actually surprised to find a full vocal melody insead of that banter-ish style he's been knonw for as of lately. I actually don't mind the singing from with teeth-a onwards-a, but i also welcome the change in styleHokahey wrote:Simply because his vocals are not the whole "with-a teeth-a" thing, I like it better than anything I've heard from him in a long time. It's a little busy, but overall I like it ok. I just wish he'd pulled the plug on the NIN name after the Fragile.
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I agree, Bowie did take a lot on those albums, but it was still Bowie. It wasn't Brian Eno and him sitting there with a synth going: "Ok, let's try to find that Closer bass line sound and use it on this one" AND lets find the the exact drum samples AND the distortion Trent used on them too. He did it in a cool way, same as when Dave borrows things from Hendrix or Gilmore or whoever.Matov wrote:
To be fair, bowie did take A LOT from trent et al during the earthling/outside era. And then there's that cover Trent did of "I can't give everything away" on their last tour, which featured bowie's vocals and i guess that had to be OKed by Bowie's estate or sth?
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But it's a subjective thing of course, I think its creepy. The tribute Trent did live was really cool though, he couldn't exactly do the song justice because he's even close to being as good a singer as Bowie was but still. He should have left it at that. I wonder if Trent has come out and talked about this song being a tribute or not, would be interesting. Guess that would help me out a BIT.
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I think Trent just picks a band like Jesus and Mary Chain to open for him because he probably idolized them as a teenager. I'm not knocking it, i'd do the thing in his position.
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They actually toured together in the US in 1990 (nin as the opening act for JAMC), so I think some of it is also a nod to that piece of history...in the same way it was with NINJA.clickie wrote:I think Trent just picks a band like Jesus and Mary Chain to open for him because he probably idolized them as a teenager. I'm not knocking it, i'd do the thing in his position.
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I just haven't been able to adapt to his "new" singing style. I have tried so hard to enjoy post Fragile NIN and just can't because of it. I'm assuming it had something to do with aging vocal chords? I don't know.Matov wrote:i hear you hoka. i was actually surprised to find a full vocal melody insead of that banter-ish style he's been knonw for as of lately. I actually don't mind the singing from with teeth-a onwards-a, but i also welcome the change in styleHokahey wrote:Simply because his vocals are not the whole "with-a teeth-a" thing, I like it better than anything I've heard from him in a long time. It's a little busy, but overall I like it ok. I just wish he'd pulled the plug on the NIN name after the Fragile.
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The only JAMC song I really like is Just Like Honey... not enough to want to see them... and NIN ... meh... I've seen them enough already... there are more interesting things out there.
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I'd say it has more to do with his music style.clickie wrote:I think Trent just picks a band like Jesus and Mary Chain to open for him because he probably idolized them as a teenager. I'm not knocking it, i'd do the thing in his position.
He may be using analogue synthesizers primarily at this point, but his music falls waaaaaaay closer to shoegaze now than it does rock, industrial, electronic, etc...
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100%Hokahey wrote:
I just haven't been able to adapt to his "new" singing style. I have tried so hard to enjoy post Fragile NIN and just can't because of it. I'm assuming it had something to do with aging vocal chords? I don't know.
He was struggling even back during NINJA. His vocals are getting buried under backing tracks and background vocals. He's yelling more than screaming for the last decade or more.
He just suffers from what all singers do, a deepening voice and strained vocal chords.
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Must be big demand for the tour, at least in LA as they're adding 2 more Palladium shows for 12/14 and 12/15. I am really glad I didn't bother with the on-site sale for the other 5 shows as this onsale is through TM tomorrow and these are the final two shows and I want to see the last show of the stand.
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Yay for me, no problem scoring a ticket to what should be the final Palladium show on 12/15.
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i didnt end up waiting on line bc i was hungover and decided it was too dumb to do on a saturday morning. then i saw someone from high school i hadnt seen in 9 years (but his brother is still close friends with my brother so it wasnt the weirdest thing in the world...i guess) was waiting on line so i messaged him and asked him to grab me a ticket and he did lol. he waited for 8 fucking hours. so i lucked out hard and offered to buy him dinner.
then on friday, i saw he added two more ny shows - one at a 3k capacity theater in brooklyn - so i grabbed the cheapest seat possible in the back and will be going to that show too. so ill see his first and last in ny. why not. yolo. old grandpa trent still makes me happy.
then on friday, i saw he added two more ny shows - one at a 3k capacity theater in brooklyn - so i grabbed the cheapest seat possible in the back and will be going to that show too. so ill see his first and last in ny. why not. yolo. old grandpa trent still makes me happy.
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That raises a good question though, what was the longest I ever waited in line for tickets. Probably about 12 hours for U2 Joshua Tree tickets and abou tthe same for Metallica And Justice for All.farrellgirl99 wrote:i didnt end up waiting on line bc i was hungover and decided it was too dumb to do on a saturday morning. then i saw someone from high school i hadnt seen in 9 years (but his brother is still close friends with my brother so it wasnt the weirdest thing in the world...i guess) was waiting on line so i messaged him and asked him to grab me a ticket and he did lol. he waited for 8 fucking hours. so i lucked out hard and offered to buy him dinner.
then on friday, i saw he added two more ny shows - one at a 3k capacity theater in brooklyn - so i grabbed the cheapest seat possible in the back and will be going to that show too. so ill see his first and last in ny. why not. yolo. old grandpa trent still makes me happy.
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So Trent haters, what do you think of the Bad Witch ep?
I really like it as a cohesive piece. He even stopped with his stupid rhyming! There’s energy there I haven’t heard in awhile. I dig it.
I really like it as a cohesive piece. He even stopped with his stupid rhyming! There’s energy there I haven’t heard in awhile. I dig it.
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dumbed down David Bowie. He keeps stealing from him, drums from the Earthling era and the same type of horn riffs as on Blackstar. What a downfall
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I really like it. God Break Down the Door sounds a little like Did you Forget.