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#941 Post by Mescal » Tue May 14, 2019 5:12 am

I liked the episode!

So much going on. Surprising stuff, emotions....

I liked the desperation in Cersei. When she s standing in the tower, watching the dragon, realising there s no way out , being completely defeated

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#942 Post by SR » Tue May 14, 2019 5:53 am

Six7Six7 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:59 pm
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This season seems rushed...the author of the books missed deadlines (by his own admission leaving Weiss and the other guy to conceive of the last season solo.
Partially incorrect.

The author was just outpaced by the show. The books are really long. They take time to write.

But he didn't just let the show writers conceive the last season. He has always known how he wanted the books to end.

He himself (the author) was concerned about his advancing age and whether he would even live long enough to finish the story, so he told the show writers how it ends back in like season 5 or 6.

The show writers are following the author's plans, even though they haven't been published yet.
Hmm, not what I remember from an interview I saw. He said outright he'd missed more than ne deadline and the EP's/writers were left to do it. He outright said that the books were his baby and the series was theirs. :noclue:

So, I came across this....book 6 still isn't finished and book 7 hasn't been started. Nothing much on content
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/georg ... spartanntp

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#943 Post by perkana » Tue May 14, 2019 6:41 pm

Six7Six7 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 5:55 pm
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I never thought I would say this, but I don't like Dany. I know she has to be strong and ambitious, but she's not old Dany. Any way, I think Cersei is going to bite the dust soon, or Jon, or Jamie, or Tyrion, or the Mountain, or the Hound...
It's easier to be ambitious about war before you see what the cost is.
Emilia Clarke has been ace as Dany. Since the end of episode 4 and all episode 5, I totally get her. I think I would have done the same thing, like fuck it, I don't fucking like you people, no fucking mercy for you, no fucking love from me, just fear, like she told Jon.
I actually liked this episode.

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#944 Post by perkana » Tue May 14, 2019 6:52 pm

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Mon May 06, 2019 5:55 pm
I never thought I'd say this, but there were things about the recent episode that I absolutely hated and I never thought I'd hate anything about the show ever, but these three things bugged the hell out me. I might even have more once I watch the episode again, but these are what stand out the most right now.

1. Tormund giving up so easily on Brienne after she walked away? After expressing himself over and over and over again about how much he wanted her he just gives up just like that? Didn't like it at all.
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2. When Sansa and Arya are about to learn who Jon really is .... the show immediately cuts away from their reactions? I hated that.
Yeah, but I loved Sansa spilling the beans to Tyrion because everyone in the Seven Kindgdoms would know Jon's real name :lol:
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3. No goodbye to Ghost? Just a look and that's it? No words, no goodbye pat on the head, no good dog? Lame!
Yeah, I have to say that was a fucked up move on Jon's part, I would have totally pet and kissed Ghost.

For last episode, this was my favorite meme :hehe:
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#945 Post by perkana » Tue May 14, 2019 7:00 pm

Six7Six7 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:54 pm

I am loving this season though. Everyone thinks everything is happening so fast, but... it's the last season. We already got 7 seasons of people walking around and talking about what they were going to do. Now they are doing it. That's it. All the planning is finally coming to fruition.

If this was a movie, you're watching the last 20 minutes. Don't be so surprised that you're seeing stories wrap up, and don't be surprised that it's not the way you expected it to end. It's Game of Thrones. Nothing has ever ended the way we expect.
And in every season the episode before the last has always been epic/fucked up. I was not disappointed at all.
I totally agree with you. It has been a long time coming

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#946 Post by perkana » Tue May 14, 2019 7:06 pm

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Ok, after watching the episode for a second time I'm coming around on how I'm feeling about it.

It mostly has to do with the way Cersei and Jamie went out. After all the ways I wanted them to go (mostly Cersei) the way they went seemed like such a letdown. It is what it is though. The episode is only just ok with me now, where last night I was borderline hating it.
I thought it was kinda poetic, Jamie joining his twin/lover in the end. They came to the world together and left together. But what about the Cleganebowl?
I wish we could have seen more of it, but there was so much going on.

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#947 Post by perkana » Tue May 14, 2019 7:13 pm

chaos wrote:
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crater wrote:
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No goodbye to Ghost? Just a look and that's it? No words, no goodbye pat on the head, no good dog? Lame!
Yeah, and I didn't understand why he gave the dog to Tormund instead of to Sansa and Arya. :confused:
I thought Ghost was better with the Free Folk :cool:
Besides Ghost, I always kept wondering if we would ever see Nymeria again (I thought Arya's warging was going to be a thing, but guess not).
I do hope Arya gets together with Gendry, in a marriage of equals, but right after she kills Dany.

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#948 Post by perkana » Thu May 16, 2019 1:37 pm

Guess you've heard how people have disliked so much this season that there's a change.org petition to redo it (400,000 signatures so far).
Actually, I've been enjoying this season a lot. This article pretty much sums up how I feel about it:
Stop the nitpicking! This season of Game of Thrones is miraculous
Luke Holland

Seeing the fury around The Bells baffles me. Are we watching the same show?

Warning: this article contains spoilers.

As King’s Landing burned, and characters whose lives we’ve been following since season one either fled the carnage or became permanent fixtures in it, the only hotter takes than the one Daenerys unleashed on her would-be subjects were those exploding across the internet.

Some calmly listed inconsistencies. Others wailed about how this episode – or the season thus far – had retroactively ruined the show forever, because they didn’t quite agree with certain things that had happened. Most lay somewhere in between, questioning choices made by writers David Benioff and DB Weiss. Phrases like “character arc” and “fan-service” and “deus ex machina” were bandied about. A surprising number of experts in military history, tactics and dragonry piped up. At the time of writing, a petition to have season eight entirely remade has garnered almost 300,000 signatures. And whispering in the background of all this were those who thought that the episode was quite good, actually. Really good, in fact. These people – GoT aficionados as much as anyone, who were wondering if we were all watching the same show – were baffled as to where all this furious opprobrium was coming from.
The major sticking point for many was Dany’s apparent transmogrification into an unhinged tyrant, as if this was something that happened in the space of five sour-faced minutes. Dany has been burning people alive since Mirri Maz Duur in season one, and has scorched her way through the Tarleys, Varys, the slavers, the loot train and scores of others ever since. Her moral unravelling has been glacial, her innate, entitled Targaryen madness always percolating, its worst impulses tamed and feared by Tyrion, Jorah, Varys and, latterly, Jon. Following the loss of her best friend, her ersatz father, two of her “children”, her squeeze, her rightful claim to her birthright, the adoration of her people and her entire reason to exist, it wasn’t much of a stretch to accept that her brittle grip on reason would snap. Graduating from only burning those who “deserved” it to chargrilling anyone in her way, including allies who would likely soon become foes, was no giant leap. It seemed inevitable. That it occurred in quite possibly the most visceral, visually stunning episode of television ever produced was a welcome boon.
The Bells was the crescendo of so many converging narratives it would always end up as a swirling plughole of viewers’ niggles, some of which had gestated over the course of this season and much of the last. Inarguably, storylines have been rushed, entire middle acts excised for the sake of brevity. It would have been wonderful to have an episode, or even a few more scenes, devoted to Dany’s descent, or to Varys’s plot to poison her (only touched upon briefly in The Bells), or to Jaime and Brienne enjoying a few more evenings of happiness together. Grey Worm’s grief, which culminated in him butchering unarmed soldiers, was truncated to little more than him throwing a collar in a fire and scowling. But all these plot-points had been made, however briefly. Then the writers chose to get on with the larger matters at hand, and have done so far more successfully than the withering reviews of The Bells, or the season in general, would have many believe.

There has been clumsiness. Arya’s leap from god-knows-where to stab the Night King is best filed under “let’s just accept it and move on,” as is Bran’s ineffectual warging as war raged around him. For all its Tolkienesque grandeur, the Battle of Winterfell felt oddly inert, main characters ostensibly fighting for their lives though we never really believed they were in jeopardy. And even in a show about dragons and zombies and Lords of Light and anachronistic coffee cups, Euron Greyjoy popping up on that beach was so daft the collective facepalm was probably audible from space. But this is all nitpickery.
Season eight had the Herculean task of bringing together a bewildering snarl of characters and storylines, then tying them off in a manner that was in keeping with the show’s internal logic. That it has largely managed to do this without the steadying keel of George RR Martin’s detailed blueprint is borderline miraculous, and makes much of the criticism hurled at Benioff and Weiss seem rather unfair.
Perhaps Cleganebowl wasn’t what people hoped for. Perhaps Arya could have killed Cersei. Perhaps Jon should have seen Dany’s actions coming before bringing his men into a situation where their worst – and, sadly, historically believable – impulses were permitted to come to the fore. But Cleganebowl ended the only way it could, and should, have. It was always Jaime’s destiny to die with Cersei, and their final scene was perfect. And Jon is, and has always been, a well-meaning idiot :lol: . Oh, and it is actually easy to obliterate a city with a single dragon, but only if you now know how those crossbows work and don’t care one iota about collateral damage. See? It does make sense.

War brings out the monster in everyone. There are no winners, only survivors. The real enemy is human weakness. The Bells hammered these themes – the very themes of Game of Thrones itself – home in spades. It’s never been a show that gives fans what they want, because it’s never given the characters what they want. It does, however, give them what they need. “If you think this has a happy ending,” said Ramsay Bolton in season three, “you haven’t been paying attention.”
Yes, it’s too short, and you do get the sense that square narrative pegs are being pounded into round logical holes. But, so far, season eight has been a fitting end for a show whose denouement, however it came, was guaranteed to disappoint or outrage great swathes of its fanbase. The performances have been terrific, the set-pieces staggering, and the writing – while not up to the standard of earlier seasons – has succeeded in creating shock-and-awe moments right to the last. Whoever is left digging through the rubble for the Iron Throne in the end, it probably won’t be who you wanted, or for the reasons you hoped for. Wasn’t that the point all along?

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#949 Post by intertwoven » Thu May 16, 2019 8:57 pm

I've been digging this final season just fine. :thumb: Always traumatic to see a dragon get killed, and the Ghost snub was cold (yes, I value animals more than people), but otherwise I've been loving it. Excited for it to wrap up so I can stop stressing over it.

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#950 Post by crater » Sun May 19, 2019 7:29 pm

So where is Drogon? I thought we would see Bran Warg into him and see where he was, but nope ... Not upset by that though.

I want the "Further Adventures of Arya" please!

Jon got a shit deal at the end, but at least both him and Tyrion made it out without being killed. Happy about that.

I thought season 6 was the best and season 7 the worst.

Ok that's all I have about the show for now.

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#951 Post by creep » Sun May 19, 2019 7:32 pm

i talked a lot of shit about this season but i thought it was a great ending. great episode :tiphat:

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#952 Post by chaos » Sun May 19, 2019 8:44 pm


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#953 Post by intertwoven » Mon May 20, 2019 12:22 am

Aww... It's so freeing to not have to care so much about a TV show anymore!
I thought it was a great episode, even without the doggie reunion, which yes, was the best scene. :heart: Curious if they shoehorned that in after the fan outrage from the previous episode, or if the snub was just part of the setup to the satisfying reunion.

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#954 Post by crater » Mon May 20, 2019 8:44 am

A couple more thoughts about the show by me.

This season and the last should have been 10 episodes to give all the stories the proper send off that they deserved. Only with fewer episodes so many things had to be forced and it just didn't come off as well as it should have in my opinion.

One thing about the final episode that I find annoying right now was the Jamie and Cersei being buried under an enormous amount of rocks in the previous episode only to be found so quickly by Tyrion under a handful of bricks. That has me shaking my head.

It also seems so improbable that Jon would tell Grey Worm that he had just killed Dany and that Grey Worm or the rest of the Unsullied wouldn't immediately kill him for it instead of just holding him as a prisoner.

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#955 Post by Six7Six7 » Mon May 20, 2019 1:07 pm

Writing an ending that did nothing but set up spinoffs was so fucking lame. :jasper:

Arya should have killed Dany, Jon should have ended up on the throne, and somehow it should have all sparked off yet another group of children who vowed revenge.

What the show started as, and how it finished, were two totally different shows. :waits:

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#956 Post by kv » Mon May 20, 2019 1:45 pm

Yep, star wars over franchise begin now!


I stopped watching years ago but did watch a couple YouTube vids of the last couple big scenes....

Is it at all possible that when the new books come out...when dany is wanting to fuck the keep up....and turns evil...that bran started to control her to burn down everything...instead of just the keep? Thus making him more likely to be king?

My lone thought...

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#957 Post by perkana » Mon May 20, 2019 6:06 pm

creep wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 7:32 pm
...i thought it was a great ending. great episode :tiphat:

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#958 Post by creep » Sun May 26, 2019 9:39 pm

i thought the documentary was really interesting. it's crazy how big a production it is. it was really interesting to see the table read when jon snow finds out he kills dany. the table read from season 1 was cool too.

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#959 Post by chaos » Tue May 28, 2019 1:02 pm

This guy gives a critique and and alternate ending for GOT. It's worth watching/listening. His rewrite starts at 4:43. If you don't want to watch the whole thing I suggest you jump to 10:30.

Some features:
-The Night King is linked to the Children of the Forest
-Jon Snow dies
-Dany is pregnant, bends the knee, and kills the night king.
-Arya magic face stuff
-Jamie kills Cersi
-Epilogue: Five years later
Many were disappointed with the ending of Game of Thrones so I took the time to rewrite an alternate, new ending the way I would have liked to see. New plots for the Night King and several other characters.

Jump to my alternate ending: 4:43



I wish this guy wrote the final season.

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#960 Post by perkana » Tue May 28, 2019 6:12 pm

I still liked the original ending...also
Game of Thrones actor Kit Harington enters rehab: Report
Game of Thrones actor Kit Harington has reportedly checked himself into rehab for stress and alcohol use.
Update: A rep for Harington confirmed to TMZ that “he has decided to utilize this break in his schedule as an opportunity to spend some time at a wellness retreat to work on some personal issues.”

Harington portrayed Jon Snow for eight season of HBO’s Game of Thrones. In the lead up to the show’s finale, he spoke candidly about how his character’s arc impacted him personally.

“My darkest period was when the show seemed to become so much about Jon when he died and came back,” he told Variety in an interview published back in March. “I really didn’t like the focus of the whole show coming onto Jon. When you become the cliffhanger of a TV show, and a TV show probably at the height of its power, the focus on you is fucking terrifying. That was a time when I started therapy and started talking to people. I had felt very unsafe, and I wasn’t talking to anyone.”

In a separate interview with Esquire, Harington admitted to having a “full-on breakdown” after filming his final scenes for GOT.

“My final day of shooting, I felt fine … I felt fine … I felt fine … then I went to do my last shots and started hyperventilating a bit …Then they called ‘wrap’ and I just fucking broke down. It was this onslaught of relief and grief about not being able to do this again,” he recounted. “But the weirdest bit was when we came off set and they started taking the costume off and it felt like being skinned … It felt like they were unceremoniously for the last time ripping off this character.”
I can see the others moving on, but Kit really has it tough in my opinion. I haven't seen him in any really interesting project.


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