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Re: Van Halen

#221 Post by Bandit72 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:40 am

Panda, do you have a favourite out of Roth and Hagar?

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Re: Van Halen

#222 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:33 pm

Bandit72 wrote:Panda, do you have a favourite out of Roth and Hagar?
Song, album or singer?

Probably "Unchained," 1st album although Fair Warning is a close second, and Roth.

Of the 4 Hagar era albums, probably F.U.C.K. is probably my favorite but I haven't listened to it in probably 10 years.

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Re: Van Halen

#223 Post by Matz » Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:32 am

favorite song is impossible to choose cause there are so many great ones, but I'll go with Runnin' with the devil. A few months ago I was watching a bit of a Volbeat show and then went from that to Metallica sound checking and playing Runnin' with he devil at the Rose Bowl. The song made Volbeat sound like amateurs really. They don't have a single song that comes close to that level of songwriting.

Album is the 1st one and favorite singer is Roth.

Although the Hagar period had its moments like When it's love. The verse riff in that is amazing and so is the guitar solo.

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Re: Van Halen

#224 Post by Bandit72 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:41 am

Yeh I was on about the singers. I kind of fell out of love with Van Halen when Roth left, but I watched some live stuff recently with Hagar and maybe I should have paid more attention.

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Re: Van Halen

#225 Post by Pandemonium » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:35 am

Bandit72 wrote:Yeh I was on about the singers. I kind of fell out of love with Van Halen when Roth left, but I watched some live stuff recently with Hagar and maybe I should have paid more attention.
Dave has become a weird goof the last couple'a decades but that run of the first 6 albums and even the 2012 reunion album are pretty much untouchable (although Diver Down has some crap on it). From about '79 - '82, Dave was the greatest frontman of any arena-level rawk band. Dave these days is more or less what Perry would have turned out if Perry didn't get married and still partied.... a mediocre singer but a still compelling frontman and artist.

I remember seeing them during the 1984 tour and it was pretty obvious the band was not long for the world. When Dave put out that stupid EP of cover songs and soon afterwords announced he'd left the band in Spring of '85, I thought VH was done. Hiring Hagar at first seemed to be a good fit but when they debuted the "Why Can't This Be Love" single the Summer of '86, I thought they shit the bed big time. Although I saw the 5150 tour, it was really a completely different band that had lost a lot of the edge they used to have. Probably the highlight of the show was that they performed great versions of Hagar's old band Montrose' "Make It Last" and "Rock Candy." I thought Hagar sucked on the versions of the 3 or 4 Roth era songs they played. The subsequent "Monsters Of Rock" stadium thing in '88 was the first VH tour I skipped and the band completely fell off my radar for a few years after that.

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Buh Bye, Van Halen

#226 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:44 pm

Dave did an interview this week plugging what appears to be a gawdawful Las Vegas VH Tribute band month of shows and more or less said Van Halen is done. Tellingly, the video of the rehearsal footage has been removed from Facebook and YouTube.

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Re: Van Halen

#227 Post by crater » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:54 pm

When I saw the "Buh Bye, Van Halen", I thought one of the brothers died :yikes:

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Re: Van Halen

#228 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:20 pm

Apparently, Eddie was at last night's 2nd Tool show at Staples Arena in LA with his son Wolfgang and his (former) brother in law. Guess he's not at death's door like it's been recently speculated:

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Also, in an amusing incident, some guy who had no idea who Eddie was asked Eddie to take a photo of him with the guy's phone standing in front of the stage after the show:

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Re: Van Halen

#229 Post by mockbee » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:12 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:20 pm
Apparently, Eddie was at last night's 2nd Tool show at Staples Arena in LA with his son Wolfgang and his (former) brother in law. Guess he's not at death's door like it's been recently speculated:

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Also, in an amusing incident, some guy who had no idea who Eddie was asked Eddie to take a photo of him with the guy's phone standing in front of the stage after the show:

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Were you tempted to go to the Tool show with KJ opening?

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#230 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:50 am

Tempted, but not greatly. Biggest thing is, I'm just not much of a Tool fan. Once I saw KJ was doing an uninspiring 9-10 song opening set plus the fact I just saw them on their own last May in a small theater, coupled with pretty high ticket prices for even mediocre seats especially at a giant cavern like Staples Arena, I passed.

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Re: Van Halen

#231 Post by creep » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:27 am

this is sad


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Re: Van Halen

#232 Post by Pandemonium » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:04 am

creep wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:27 am
this is sad

Yeah, Roth butchers Dance The Night Away these days. Same shit on the 2012 and 2015 Van Halen tours. It's funny, but when he stays within his limited range, he's ok, but for some reason on certain songs like DTNA, he goes way above and sounds like a flaming skinned cat. As seen here, he's fine on songs where he doesn't have to do the high pitched screeching.:



The thing is, Roth, like a lot of singers getting up there in their late 60's just can't compete with their own image back when they were on top of their game. Dude can't jump off of drum risers or do spinning helicopter karate kicks anymore. Artists that are getting up there in years and dealing with diminished abilities can be a bit depressing to see at this point in their careers. Especially when in my case I'm getting to be an old fucker myself, it's more self-reflection then I want when going to a rock n' roll show to see some of these guys I grew up with and caught at the best times of their career now struggling onstage playing tunes about nailing pussy and getting fucked up well into their 60's and 70's. I don't begrudge someone like Roth still wanting to get out there and do shows after wasting years waiting on the VH brothers to get off their asses or the fans wanting to see him at this point, but it's not for me. Kind of like Perry/Janes nowadays.

Rock n' rollers aging gracefully is a very tough thing to accomplish. Better to burn out than fade away, hope I die before I grow old. On the other hand, it can be argued aging gracefully is actually anti-rock n' roll.... as Neil Young and Pete Townsend with all their crotchety, grampa-esque attitude have shown.

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Re: Van Halen

#233 Post by Matz » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:19 pm

I heard that Eddie's not doing good, his cancer is back or something like that and he's been getting treatment in Europe somewhere...sucks :sad:

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Re: Van Halen

#234 Post by Pandemonium » Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:12 pm

Matz wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:19 pm
I heard that Eddie's not doing good, his cancer is back or something like that and he's been getting treatment in Europe somewhere...sucks :sad:
Although he won't go into detail, Roth has said Eddie's more or less retired and Van Halen as a band are done. He is apparently getting some sort of ongoing cancer treatment that probably derailed a so-called big farewell tour last year that was supposed to include Michael Anthony back on bass. His son Wolfgang's solo debut album seems to be on indefinite hold (it's been finished for several years) that might have been tied to this rumored tour (Wolfgang as an opening act?). Once in a while, every couple months Eddie posts some photo on instagram or twitter that the hardcore fans try to pick apart for clues on how he's doing but it seems pretty apparent the next time you hear any substantial news on his condition, it'll won't be "Hey, we're ready to rock again!"

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