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Re: Van Halen

#141 Post by Deconstruction » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:08 pm

Tyler Durden wrote:I'm not trying to be a dick here...this is honest curiosity. What makes Van Halen any different than the NUMEROUS cock rock bands that cropped up after them in the 80s? Outside of Eddie Van Halen being a guitar aficionado*, I don't hear much of a difference. :noclue: To me, they have more in common with the likes of Poison than rock gods like Led Zeppelin.

*Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, and the lot can fuck off.
I hate hair metal, but VH just wrote great memorable songs. Great musicianship and out of the greatest guitarists ever, and while Dave is corny and not the usual type of frontman I'd like, he's got a swagger and is a great showman. When I feel like taking a break from the depressing/introspective music I listen to I'll listen to Van Halen. I do think they had a major sense of rebelliousness that helped make up for their lack of maturity. Not a fan of the Hagar years though or Roth solo, at that point I think both bought into the hair metal fad.

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Re: Van Halen

#142 Post by Pandemonium » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:25 pm

Tyler Durden wrote:I'm not trying to be a dick here...this is honest curiosity. What makes Van Halen any different than the NUMEROUS cock rock bands that cropped up after them in the 80s? Outside of Eddie Van Halen being a guitar aficionado*, I don't hear much of a difference. :noclue: To me, they have more in common with the likes of Poison than rock gods like Led Zeppelin.

*Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, and the lot can fuck off.
There's no doubt Van Halen especially with David Lee Roth was a huge influence on a lot of the mostly nauseating hair metal bands that came out in the early 80's..I'm talking bands like Dokken, Ratt etc. However, especially going into the mid 80's more and more upcoming Hollywood hair metal bands took their cues more from Aerosmith, KISS, The New York Dolls and Hanoi Rocks (Poison, Guns n' Roses, Warrant, etc).

When Van Halen broke big, they essentially filled the vacancy left by Led Zeppelin when Bonham died. Other major established hard rock bands of the time like Aerosmith and Black Sabbath were already on the creative and commercial decline and up and coming hard rock bands like Cheap Trick and AC/DC still had several years before they hit their stride. I'm not saying that Van Halen was artistically on the same level as LZ, but no other band came even close to filling the void left by LZ's breakup.

One other thing, Eddie was more than just one of those widdly-widdly solo playing guitarists like say, Malmsteen. He was also a very unique rhythm player who often did his guitar part including solo off-the-cuff in one take as heard in this track sans vocals:


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Re: Van Halen

#143 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:07 pm

Apparently Eddie had emergency surgery early this week for severe Diverticulitis which from all accounts is a pretty horrible ordeal to go through. He's being given a 4 - 6+ month window to recover which seems to indicate he was in pretty bad shape. At least that's the official word. However, there was a rumor earlier this month that he was starting some sort of treatment for colon cancer which may have been the real reason for the Summer leg of their North America tour being postponed and than later canceled. As it stands, the November Japan dates are now postponed and will likely be canceled.

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Re: Van Halen

#144 Post by Essence_Smith » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:58 am

I might have posted this before, but I think its pretty cool... :hehe:


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Re: Van Halen

#145 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 am

Er.....


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Re: Van Halen

#146 Post by Matz » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:18 pm

:lol: I hung in there for a full two minutes of that rant, beat that...

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Re: Van Halen

#147 Post by creep » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:43 pm

Matz wrote::lol: I hung in there for a full two minutes of that rant, beat that...
shit i got to 1:12. i tried but couldn't beat you.

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Re: Van Halen

#148 Post by Artemis » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:44 pm

DLR is a kook.I just watched him blather on for 8 minutes about nothing.

I could host a show about deoderant that would be 10X more exciting than his show. :lol:

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Re: Van Halen

#149 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:58 pm

It's hard enough watching him talk about nonsense, but imagine him doing that as a radio show.... small wonder he flopped.

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Re: Van Halen

#150 Post by Matz » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:31 pm

yeah, it's really funny he was hired at all. Probably the most moronic decision made by radio executives in the last 20 years, wtf were they thinkin...

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Re: Van Halen

#151 Post by Artemis » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:07 pm

i'm sure many people tuned in initially to check it out but then quickly changed the station.. :lol:

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Re: Van Halen

#152 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:46 pm

Artemis wrote:i'm sure many people tuned in initially to check it out but then quickly changed the station.. :lol:
Dave's always been a soundbite kinda entertainer, not someone who is any good at long, sustained monologues, much less a several hour radio show. And in the last 10 - 15 years, he's become much more rambling and incoherent. His 10 minute story about raising sheep dogs prefacing "Ice Cream Man" on this year's Van Halen tour was like slow death on stage.

That said, his bio "Crazy From The Heat" is a fairly entertaining read no doubt because he had a good editor.

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Re: Van Halen

#153 Post by jptm » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:34 am

Anyone else catch DLR on the Joe Rogan podcast? It was almost uncomfortable sometimes when Dave would make a 'joke' and no one would laugh... his stories are sometimes compelling, but it was kinda sad. Joe is an alpha-male, and it was obvious that Dave was trying to win him over...

...and then this morning I attempted to listen to Dave's 'radio' show; Extreme Tokyo or some shit.

The worst attempt at radio I've ever heard. It's Dave talking over loud dance music; after each sentence it's repeated in Japanese by a translator... the worst! I couldn't last more than 15 minutes... save your bandwidth and trust me, it's terrible.

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Re: Van Halen

#154 Post by kv » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:34 pm

Anyone else catch DLR on the Joe Rogan podcast?

gonna go out on a limb and say no

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Re: Van Halen

#155 Post by crater » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:23 pm

kv wrote:
Anyone else catch DLR on the Joe Rogan podcast?

gonna go out on a limb and say no
You lose, because I did.

I thought DLR was funny, but I was listening and not watching the Ustream of the show, so I wasn't able to see if Joe had any real reaction to what DLR was saying. I kind of tuned out towards the end when Joe began talking about MMA, because it was obvious that Dave had no idea what Joe was talking about and the show started to drag when he brought it up.

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Re: Van Halen

#156 Post by chaos » Fri May 24, 2013 8:57 am

http://boingboing.net/2013/05/24/van-ha ... um=twitter

The guitar solo from Van Halen's song "Eruption" played by Tina, who is 14. More than 3 million video views in 3 days. She was taught and filmed by Renaud Louis-Servais, and she's playing a Vigier Excalibur Custom.


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Re: Van Halen

#157 Post by Matz » Fri May 24, 2013 9:16 am

not bad at all, it's not a 100% perfect but pretty close, nice feel..........how the fuck did she get 3 million views in that short amount of time, that's insane

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Re: Van Halen

#158 Post by Pandemonium » Fri May 24, 2013 10:09 am

She should team up with this kid:


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Re: Van Halen

#159 Post by kv » Fri May 24, 2013 5:02 pm

Matz wrote:not bad at all, it's not a 100% perfect but pretty close, nice feel..........how the fuck did she get 3 million views in that short amount of time, that's insane
because it's been posted all over the internet a bunch of ites picked it up

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Re: Van Halen

#160 Post by creep » Fri May 24, 2013 5:05 pm

kv wrote:
Matz wrote:not bad at all, it's not a 100% perfect but pretty close, nice feel..........how the fuck did she get 3 million views in that short amount of time, that's insane
because it's been posted all over the internet a bunch of ites picked it up
:lol: no way! is that how it happened?

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