Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

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Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

#2201 Post by Artemis » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:56 pm

mockbee wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:13 am
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I'm probably going to watch it today or tomorrow. I haven't read the book, just the bad reviews. Quite a few of my Facebook friends who watched it commented that they liked it. :noclue:
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So.....? What's your impressions? :waits: :lol:



I think there are many important angles to this story that would explain a lot about this country, but I don't think the movie could decide what it was trying to say. It didn't pick a story, it just tried to touch on all sorts of tangents without trying to develop a story around any of them. (except maybe the grandma, but even then I was wanting to know way more of her story. The movie definitely wasn't about the boy.)

The movie could have been about...

1. How JD got from a factory town, whose family had a hillbilly past, to Yale. (tired trope)
2. How JD's relationship with his mom and grandma shaped him. (I think the writers/Howard thought this was what they were saying, but I didn't get that at all)
3. How his mom's life was shaped by his grandma and her past. (good story)
4. How JD copes with his hillbilly past in his newfound elite setting. (tired trope)
5. How the elite setting views this hillbilly. (tired trope)

It touched, sort of - rather shallow though, on all those themes, but was about none of them. :noclue:

At the end I really disliked the kid...and liked the grandma.


Now I might have to read the book. :banghead:
So, I watched it yesterday and thought it was okay. It seemed familiar because of the tired tropes you mention above. I thought Amy Adams and Glen Close did a great acting job with a mediocre script.

The movie's portrayal of addiction seemed kind of lite to me, could have been grittier and more in your face about how destructive and devastating addiction is to families.

On poverty, the movie tried to show the generational cycle that makes getting out so hard. As you said earlier, the movie didn't really go into many details or show how JD suddenly(seemed like suddenly, poor pacing of movie) got to Yale. We learn he joins the military which is how he was able to go to college. I guess from that it's implied that for poor people in the USA, post-secondary education is only possible by joining the army. Hard work, discipline and structure suddenly seems to come to JD when his grandma splits her Meals on Wheels dinner with him. He seems to snap out of being a carefree, lazy teenager to responsible and driven.
Also, the lack of healthcare in America is also highlighted when JD tried to get his mom into rehab and uses his credit cards to pay for her first 2 weeks. This also keeps the cycle of poverty going because those who want help can't access it because they can'y pay, keeping the cycle going.

I thought the grandma was the most interesting and likable. Even though she seemed harsh,she had a heart. She recognized that for JD to have a chance of getting out of poverty, she had to step in to replace her daughter and be the mother because her daughter was unable to be a mother due to her drug addiction and unresolved childhood trauma. I guess it was a second chance for Mamaw to be the mother she couldn't be to her daughter. I thought the movie was mainly about the grandmother.

I doubt I'll read the book. :lol:

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Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

#2202 Post by mockbee » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:27 pm

Thanks! :thumb:

Yeah, I think the grandma has the most interesting story, leaving kentucky when she was 13 and pregnant and (I think) staying with her husband!

Glen Close did a great job, especially seeing the home video footage of the Mamaw at the end.

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#2203 Post by clickie » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:37 am

I haven't watched Three Days the documentary in a long time. I have it on vhs but I don't own a vhs player anymore.



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#2204 Post by Bandit72 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:17 am

So I'm a late comer to the film Whiplash. I've watched it 3 times in the last 3 weeks it's THAT good. Then I found this clip of the tune Caravan by Charly Antolini. Holy fuck.


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#2205 Post by SR » Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:18 am

If you're interested in masters on drums check out Nate Smith, Eric Moore, Chris Daddy Dave, and Ilan Rubin on IG. Q Drums too as they often have myriad artists perform on their kits (which are absolute works of art).

The first 3 are transfixing. Rubin is excellent, but approaches drums with an acute alternate intelligence that is mesmerizing in it's own way.

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#2206 Post by mockbee » Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:23 am

I watched Whiplash twice on a plane on some 17 hour overnight flight to Asia and I thought it was great. I was bopping along in my seat and air drumming with the volume at full blast. I was the only one awake out of the hundreds of passemgers, and I don't think a lot of them appreciated my enthusiasm.... :lol:


Of course most movies are great on a long haul flights because you are bored out of your mind and don't have the brain cells present to read. I watch some movies again or highly recommend them and think they are garbage when I am on the groind and could be doing other things...so good to know it holds up..... :thumb: :hehe:

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Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

#2207 Post by creep » Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:56 pm

coming 2 america was horrible

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#2208 Post by kv » Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:12 pm

So was the first one :noclue:

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#2209 Post by clickie » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:12 pm

Nah the first one was good

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#2210 Post by creep » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:13 pm

kv wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:12 pm
So was the first one :noclue:
wrong :essence:

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Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

#2211 Post by Artemis » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:01 am

I saw Nomadland...really good! I think this is a career high performance for Frances McDormand.



https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/noma ... eview-2020

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