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Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:56 pm
by Artemis
mockbee wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:13 am
Artemis wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:05 pm

I'm probably going to watch it today or tomorrow. I haven't read the book, just the bad reviews. Quite a few of my Facebook friends who watched it commented that they liked it. :noclue:
:noclue:

So.....? What's your impressions? :waits: :lol:



I think there are many important angles to this story that would explain a lot about this country, but I don't think the movie could decide what it was trying to say. It didn't pick a story, it just tried to touch on all sorts of tangents without trying to develop a story around any of them. (except maybe the grandma, but even then I was wanting to know way more of her story. The movie definitely wasn't about the boy.)

The movie could have been about...

1. How JD got from a factory town, whose family had a hillbilly past, to Yale. (tired trope)
2. How JD's relationship with his mom and grandma shaped him. (I think the writers/Howard thought this was what they were saying, but I didn't get that at all)
3. How his mom's life was shaped by his grandma and her past. (good story)
4. How JD copes with his hillbilly past in his newfound elite setting. (tired trope)
5. How the elite setting views this hillbilly. (tired trope)

It touched, sort of - rather shallow though, on all those themes, but was about none of them. :noclue:

At the end I really disliked the kid...and liked the grandma.


Now I might have to read the book. :banghead:
So, I watched it yesterday and thought it was okay. It seemed familiar because of the tired tropes you mention above. I thought Amy Adams and Glen Close did a great acting job with a mediocre script.

The movie's portrayal of addiction seemed kind of lite to me, could have been grittier and more in your face about how destructive and devastating addiction is to families.

On poverty, the movie tried to show the generational cycle that makes getting out so hard. As you said earlier, the movie didn't really go into many details or show how JD suddenly(seemed like suddenly, poor pacing of movie) got to Yale. We learn he joins the military which is how he was able to go to college. I guess from that it's implied that for poor people in the USA, post-secondary education is only possible by joining the army. Hard work, discipline and structure suddenly seems to come to JD when his grandma splits her Meals on Wheels dinner with him. He seems to snap out of being a carefree, lazy teenager to responsible and driven.
Also, the lack of healthcare in America is also highlighted when JD tried to get his mom into rehab and uses his credit cards to pay for her first 2 weeks. This also keeps the cycle of poverty going because those who want help can't access it because they can'y pay, keeping the cycle going.

I thought the grandma was the most interesting and likable. Even though she seemed harsh,she had a heart. She recognized that for JD to have a chance of getting out of poverty, she had to step in to replace her daughter and be the mother because her daughter was unable to be a mother due to her drug addiction and unresolved childhood trauma. I guess it was a second chance for Mamaw to be the mother she couldn't be to her daughter. I thought the movie was mainly about the grandmother.

I doubt I'll read the book. :lol:

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:27 pm
by mockbee
Thanks! :thumb:

Yeah, I think the grandma has the most interesting story, leaving kentucky when she was 13 and pregnant and (I think) staying with her husband!

Glen Close did a great job, especially seeing the home video footage of the Mamaw at the end.

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:37 am
by clickie
I haven't watched Three Days the documentary in a long time. I have it on vhs but I don't own a vhs player anymore.



Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:17 am
by Bandit72
So I'm a late comer to the film Whiplash. I've watched it 3 times in the last 3 weeks it's THAT good. Then I found this clip of the tune Caravan by Charly Antolini. Holy fuck.


Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:18 am
by SR
If you're interested in masters on drums check out Nate Smith, Eric Moore, Chris Daddy Dave, and Ilan Rubin on IG. Q Drums too as they often have myriad artists perform on their kits (which are absolute works of art).

The first 3 are transfixing. Rubin is excellent, but approaches drums with an acute alternate intelligence that is mesmerizing in it's own way.

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:23 am
by mockbee
I watched Whiplash twice on a plane on some 17 hour overnight flight to Asia and I thought it was great. I was bopping along in my seat and air drumming with the volume at full blast. I was the only one awake out of the hundreds of passemgers, and I don't think a lot of them appreciated my enthusiasm.... :lol:


Of course most movies are great on a long haul flights because you are bored out of your mind and don't have the brain cells present to read. I watch some movies again or highly recommend them and think they are garbage when I am on the groind and could be doing other things...so good to know it holds up..... :thumb: :hehe:

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:56 pm
by creep
coming 2 america was horrible

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:12 pm
by kv
So was the first one :noclue:

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:12 pm
by clickie
Nah the first one was good

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:13 pm
by creep
kv wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:12 pm
So was the first one :noclue:
wrong :essence:

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:01 am
by Artemis
I saw Nomadland...really good! I think this is a career high performance for Frances McDormand.



https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/noma ... eview-2020

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:52 am
by clickie

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:07 am
by clickie

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:57 pm
by mockbee
Anyone seen Sound of Metal? Like it?




I didn't know about it but looks like it got nominated for oscar.

Dont like trailers because then 4/5th of the movie is given away.... :conf: :noclue:

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:10 pm
by Hokahey
creep wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:56 pm
coming 2 america was horrible
It wasn't the first one. But I enjoyed it as a bit of fun, fan-service. I enjoyed seeing the characters again.

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:13 pm
by Artemis
mockbee wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:57 pm
Anyone seen Sound of Metal? Like it?




I didn't know about it but looks like it got nominated for oscar.

Dont like trailers because then 4/5th of the movie is given away.... :conf: :noclue:
I just heard about it for the first time this week too. On CBC radio I heard a really good interview with Paul Raci who was nominated for best supporting actor for this film. He was born to two deaf parents and is a professional ASL interpreter. He does acting and music as well.

I really enjoyed this interview. Paul Raci's background story is really interesting and now he's a first time Oscar nominee at age 73. :cool:


Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:33 am
by nausearockpig
Watch Love and Monsters on the weekend, it was fun.

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:29 am
by clickie
That movie looks cool. I finally got around to watching 3 Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. I liked it but I felt like the ending was weak.

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:36 am
by clickie
Speaking of Sam Rockwell who was in 3 Billboards have you guys ever seen Moon that was good.

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 6:56 am
by clickie
You know what movie I watched 2 times and it never gets old.
The Assinanation of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 11:59 am
by Matz
watched Another Round, ...don't believe the hype....it blows

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 3:24 pm
by clickie
I watched a couple interesting flicks over the weekend.
Ex Machina

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 1:15 pm
by clickie
Did you guys ever see Out of the Furnace? Great Cast.

Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 6:46 pm
by creep
the gentleman was pretty good


Re: Movies or "the breakdown of jasper"

Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 7:37 pm
by Hokahey
clickie wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 3:24 pm
I watched a couple interesting flicks over the weekend.
Ex Machina
Fucking love that movie. Watched it repeatedly when it was released. Oscar Isaac deserved an Oscar.