Porno For Pyro's Agua coming soon....

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#26 Post by Juana » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:32 pm

The song is fine I just do not want him to make anymore new music for P4P if he is going to approach it like he did Janes. Just hope that Pete when he says that they have the 3rd album written = the songs are done and Perry cant/wont fuck them up

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#27 Post by JOEinPHX » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:45 pm

clickie wrote:This was a song written for kidsapalooza... theres nothing ambiguous about it. Its Perry doing nursery rymes.
I'd agree with this assessment.

There is no way that the guy who wrote Classic Girl really thinks that Agua is a "beautiful song"

It's just something they had laying around that wasn't packed in boxes when the Farrells moved.

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#28 Post by JOEinPHX » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:49 pm

bman wrote: I can't believe the negative nancys on this site!
Really? You can't listen to their musical output since 2000 and understand the reason everyone is so negative? You can't remember all the missed opportunities and believe the negativity?

I wish I was that forgetful.

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#29 Post by a headless shell » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:20 pm

I do know people who prefer Porno for Pyros to Jane's Addiction - hippie/stoner types who take mellow grooves over hard rock. So a Porno for Pyros tour could draw a different audience if packaged right. Plus, latter-day Pornos is a better fit for Perry, since he no longer has the anger or energy to sell an "Ain't No Right" (the man on stage is not the same one who cut himself and said so what).

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#30 Post by JOEinPHX » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:27 pm

Porno for Pyros was never big enough to tour on what their dwindling audience would be now.

If they play any shows, it will be small venues in:

New York
Las Vegas
San Fransisco
Los Angelos

That will be it. There is your tour.

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#31 Post by clickie » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:08 pm

Chicago still grooves to the beat of the PFP trip also.

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#32 Post by clickie » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:24 pm

I wonder if anyone even remembers pfp besides us.

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#33 Post by blackula » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:26 pm

a headless shell wrote:I do know people who prefer Porno for Pyros to Jane's Addiction - hippie/stoner types who take mellow grooves over hard rock. So a Porno for Pyros tour could draw a different audience if packaged right. Plus, latter-day Pornos is a better fit for Perry, since he no longer has the anger or energy to sell an "Ain't No Right" (the man on stage is not the same one who cut himself and said so what).
I somewhat agree but I fear "packaged right" would equal Jane's touring with fake AIC. Porno For Pyros with Blind Melon summer 2014. I wish he stuck with P4P and kept the GGU vibe instead of Jane's 2.0. I think he's just "in it" now....the life, the tours...etc. it's not about art. Maybe Jane's will be the money and this will be fun times with an old buddy.

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#34 Post by trevor ayer » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:57 pm

remember when Stephen said To Match the Sun was the most beautiful song he ever heard? that is pushing it to say the least .. I am happy it's an old already written tune and not a newly written tune .. PFP was still prime Perry era and even an out take like Agua has more charm than anything on the last 2 Jane's records.

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#35 Post by blackcoffee » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:09 pm

Agua was mentioned in a piece on perry for surfer magazine or the like. I think the journalist said they laid the track and he even did some back up.

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#36 Post by clickie » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:35 am

hokahey wrote:
clickie wrote:This was a song written for kidsapalooza... theres nothing ambiguous about it. Its Perry doing nursery rymes.
I hope you don't mean that literally, just because they performed it there.

This is an old, old P4P track written during the GGU era.

I like it fine. It's reminiscent of the GGU era.

It was a left over for a reason, but it's a nice, simple song.


I really did mean that Hok, I stopped paying close attention to these guys a long time ago. I still get excited when they put out new music though.

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#37 Post by elbuitre » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:04 am

You can hear that Agua was written back when Perry still wrote cool vocal melodies. It sounds nothing like what he's been putting out since 2002.

It's not a classic but, had it been released in '96, I think we'd all like it as much as Cook the Rice, Bali Eyes, Kimberley Austin etc.

The fear is that 2013 perry will add some cringey lyrics, change the melody, sing in a crooner style and try to modernise the production. Let's hope Pete has some influence, assuming that Pete has decent taste. I've no idea.

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#38 Post by clickie » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:34 am

Bali eyes.. now thats a bonafide classic.

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#39 Post by Juana » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:39 am

clickie wrote:Bali eyes.. now thats a bonafide classic.
That song and Freeway are my favorite P4P songs. Love the whole GGU record just a perfect beach record for me.

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#40 Post by Tyler Durden » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:09 pm

Six7Six7 wrote:I'm just wondering why they haven't recorded a new song.

I heard Agua at Lollapalooza back in 2005. It wasn't very good.

How damn long does it take for a professional musician to write and record one new song? Surely not 8 years.
Just remember, Jane's hinted at recording a new album in '97. Strays didn't come out until 2003 (six years later). That same year, they talked about recording a followup album...another eight years pass and then we get TGEA.

Any normal artist releases albums on a relatively consistent basis. Even bands like U2 and Metallica (who are known for huge gaps between albums) put out more music than Perry does. The difference is, when those groups put out music, people actually care. :lol: They can afford to release music sporadically because when they tour, they can easily play arenas and stadiums (on multiple nights) as if they were never gone. Perry rarely releases music while constantly struggling to remain relevant (Google "viral video").

This made me laugh:
"We went into the studio and recorded a couple tracks," says Farrell. "I wouldn't mind even recording a couple more."
Wow, don't overexert yourself, buddy. Perry Farrell: the LEAST hardest working man in show business. :hehe:

If these Porno songs are decent (can't expect more than that), then it will leave people thinking "These would have been a lot cooler if these came out in 1998-99". If they suck, I for one won't care...Perry already ruined the legacy of the greatest thing he had to offer the world.

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#41 Post by LJF » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:21 pm

[If these Porno songs are decent (can't expect more than that), then it will leave people thinking "These would have been a lot cooler if these came out in 1998-99". If they suck, I for one won't care...Perry already ruined the legacy of the greatest thing he had to offer the world.[/quote]


At this point I think lollapalooza is his greatest legacy.

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#42 Post by Tyler Durden » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:39 pm

LJF wrote:

At this point I think lollapalooza is his greatest legacy.
That's partially because he has fucked up Jane's Addiction so bad. I agree to a large degree but I was speaking from the perspective of him as an artist, not a music industry big wig.

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#43 Post by JOEinPHX » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:46 pm

LJF wrote:[If these Porno songs are decent (can't expect more than that), then it will leave people thinking "These would have been a lot cooler if these came out in 1998-99". If they suck, I for one won't care...Perry already ruined the legacy of the greatest thing he had to offer the world.

At this point I think lollapalooza is his greatest legacy.[/quote]

I would agree.

Unfortunately lollapalooza has been taking on so many corporate sponsors and setting so much space aside for VIP areas that its becoming douchepalooza quickly.

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#44 Post by NYRexall » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:21 pm

I have absolutely no interest in a Geezers for Pyros reunion, on any level. This will eventually amount to nothing more than a bunch of shitty electronica-based songs with embarrassing lyrics and Perry's dopey wife singing backup. If Dave and Perkins can't tame PerryEtty's rampant ego, what makes you think Pete stands any better of a chance?

It's not like Etty is going to let him be Perry's musical foil or something.

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#45 Post by elbuitre » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:11 am

Great rendition of Packin' 25: www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7M6-Lm23Hs

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#46 Post by cricket_bows » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:52 am

FIVE SEVEN FIVE:

snaggletooth repaired

music suffers horribly

fall from grace complete

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#47 Post by Tyler Durden » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:22 am

cricket_bows wrote:FIVE SEVEN FIVE:

snaggletooth repaired

music suffers horribly

fall from grace complete
:lolol:

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#48 Post by Tyler Durden » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:23 am

NYRexall wrote:I have absolutely no interest in a Geezers for Pyros reunion, on any level. This will eventually amount to nothing more than a bunch of shitty electronica-based songs with embarrassing lyrics and Perry's dopey wife singing backup. If Dave and Perkins can't tame PerryEtty's rampant ego, what makes you think Pete stands any better of a chance?

It's not like Etty is going to let him be Perry's musical foil or something.
THIS.

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#49 Post by crater » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:34 am

NYRexall wrote: If Dave and Perkins can't tame PerryEtty's rampant ego, what makes you think Pete stands any better of a chance?
Pete claims that he and Perry are super duper BFF's, whereas Dave and Perk appear to be Perry's personal employees.

Still don't think the closeness of their relationship will make for any positive change in the music though.

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#50 Post by Larry B. » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:39 am

crater wrote:
NYRexall wrote: If Dave and Perkins can't tame PerryEtty's rampant ego, what makes you think Pete stands any better of a chance?
Pete claims that he and Perry are super duper BFF's, whereas Dave and Perk appear to be Perry's personal employees.

Still don't think the closeness of their relationship will make for any positive change in the music though.
Pete feels like he owes Perry. He has said that on multiple occasions. He feels gratitude for him.

You know when you're in a shitty relationship and the other person can basically do anything with you and/or convince you of anything? Have you ever been a victim of a manipulative person?

That's what would happen with Pete, unfortunately.

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