Eric and Pete and Zepp

[creep]

Yeah not only that but shame on anyone who thinks Pete cant do Ramble On justice.

as long as we aren't talking vocals...

[Jasper]

Huh? Last I checked most of RDLH was written fairly early in their career, but Dave was there for the writing of almost all of it. Only ANR seems to have been anywhere close to finished before Dave arrived, but none of the riffs were really there for that song until Dave added them.

A couple of other songs on RDLH had seeds of ideas planted before Dave (Of Course, Three Days), but weren't put together until after Dave arrived. Apparently most of the music of some RDLH songs (like Stop! and Classic Girl) was written mostly/entirely by Dave.

I wasn't there, but this is my understanding of things.

XXX and NS were composed by Eric and Perry in late 1985, before Dave joined the band.
Dave just added his great guitar style and metal sound.

Funny thing about it is that it's actually 5 songs from the previous demo, but with Dave doing his thing over them. Seems the band didn't have enough money to pay for studio time to do a whole new demo. "I went in," Dave told Phil Hayes, "booked a session with my own money and re-did the guitar parts. The power chords for the songs stayed the same and so did the melodies, but the solos were mine." Agrees Stephen, "In the first demos, I wasn't even really playing with Dave!".

http://somediverswhistle.com/recording/

I'm not sure why you're responding to my post with this. I wrote about RDLH.

[Stickyfingers]

I'm not sure why you're responding to my post with this. I wrote about RDLH.

It wasn't direct response to your post.
I was just pointing out that Dave on two first album just added solo on some songs that were already there.

Yeah RDLH have more Dave on it, but I think if you want to listen Dave's songs in Janes you have to go for Strays and TGEA.

[JOEinPHX]

I'm not sure why you're responding to my post with this. I wrote about RDLH.

It wasn't direct response to your post.
I was just pointing out that Dave on two first album just added solo on some songs that were already there.

Yeah RDLH have more Dave on it, but I think if you want to listen Dave's songs in Janes you have to go for Strays and TGEA.

To be fair, on every single Jane's Addiction album, Perry just kind of added lyrics to songs that were already there.

[ragdoll]

Pete and Eric were in the studio recording this song for a pilot called "Dirtyland" directed by legendary director Mark Racco (GIFT, Nirvana etc)

[creep]

legendary director

legendary might be stretching it

Director (4 credits)
2011 Nirvana: Live at the Paramount
2003 Stone Temple Pilots: Thank You (Video) (video "Down")
2001 Sluts & Losers
1993 Guns N' Roses: Makin' F@*!ing Videos Part I - Don't Cry (Video documentary)

[ragdoll]

legendary director

legendary might be stretching it

Director (4 credits)
2011 Nirvana: Live at the Paramount
2003 Stone Temple Pilots: Thank You (Video) (video "Down")
2001 Sluts & Losers
1993 Guns N' Roses: Makin' F@*!ing Videos Part I - Don't Cry (Video documentary)

ummm lol
NIRVANA -LIVE AT THE PARAMOUNT - UME DVD/BLU RAY - DIRECTOR/DP

NIRVANA - TERRITORIAL PISSINGS - (Live at the Paramount[1991) DIRECTOR/DP

NIRVANA - BREED (Live at the Paramount/1991) DIRECTOR/DP

AMERICAN BLOOMERS - "FADED" - DIRECTOR/PRODECER/DP

ARIANA - "PERFECT MAN" music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

BLACK BOX REVELATION - "MY PERCEPTION" EPK - Merovingian music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

FILTER - "NO LOVE" - Rocket Science/Nuclear Blast music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

FILTER - "FADES LIKE A PHOTOGRAPH" - Nuclear Blast music video DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

EDWARD SHARPE AND THE MAGNETIC ZEROS - "River of Love" - music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

LORYN TAGGERT - "POWERLESS" - Sidewalk Angel music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

MAILK POINTER - "SOMEDAY" music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS - "DANCING DAYS" - Warner music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

THE DEAD WEATHER - "Treat Me Like your Mother" (live) - 3rd man Records - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

THEM CROOKED VULTURES - "Warsaw" - (live) music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS - "Thank You" - Warner Bros. long form music video - SEGMENT DIRECTOR

DEADSY - "Babes in Abyss" - Immortal music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

THE PANIC CHANNEL - "Said You'd Be" - music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

THE PANIC CHANNEL - "Bloody Mary"/EPK - music video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

COURTNEY LOVE - "Devil Doll Ball' - Long form concert video - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

NIRVANA - "Jesus Doesn't Want Me for a Sunbeam" - UMG DVD music video- DIRECTOR

THE CULT - "Painted On My Heart" - Island/Def Jam/Disney/Touchstone music video - DIRECTOR

STAIND (featuring Fred Durst) - "Outside" - Flip/Interscope - DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

STAIND - "Just Go" - Flip/Interscope music video - DIRECTOR OF PHOTOGRAPHY/PRODUCER

THE WONDERGIRLS - "Drop That Baby" - music video - DIRECTOR

LIMP BIZKIT - "Faith" - Interscope music video - DP/PRODUCER

LIMP BIZKIT - "Poop" - Interscope long form music video - CO DIRECTOR/PRODUCER

BUCKCHERRY - "Lit Up" - Dreamworks music video - DIRECTOR

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS - "Down" - Atlantic music video - CO DIRECTOR

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS - "Live in Las Vegas, MTV Special" - concert video - DIRECTOR*

ZEN MAFIA with Ian Astbury "Sweet Home California" - Wind Up Music Video - PRODUCER/DIRECTOR

GORDON - "Fortified Grapes" - Rondor music video - DIRECTOR

AMERICAN PEARL - "Kings" - Wind Up music video - PRODUCER/DIRECTOR

PUFF DADDY AND JIMMY PAGE - "Making of Come With Me" - MTV Special - SEGMENT DIRECTOR

RULE 62 - "I Wish I Was" - Maverick music video - DIRECTOR

BIG MOUNTAIN - "Touch My Light" music video - DIRECTOR

KIK TRACEE - "In Trance" - Warner music video - DIRECTOR

RHINO BUCKET - "Hey There" - Warner Bros. music video - DIRECTOR

SKEW SISKIN - "If The Walls Could Talk" - Warner Bros. music video - DIRECTOR

SAIGON KICK - "Love is On The Way" - Atlantic music video - DIRECTOR

SAIGON KICK - "Hostile Youth" - Atlantic music video - DIRECTOR

SCORPIONS - "Crazy World Tour Video" - Warner home video - POST PRODUCTION SUPERVISOR

JUNKYARD - "Misery Loves Company" - Geffen music video - DIRECTOR

NIRVANA - "Live Tonight Sold Out!" - Geffen long form music video - SEGMENT DIRECTOR

NIRVANA - "Polly" - Geffen music video - DIRECTOR

NIRVANA - "About A Girl" - Geffen music video - DIRECTOR

NIRVANA - "Breed" - Geffen music video - DIRECTOR

NIRVANA - "Endless Nameless" - Geffen music video -DIRECTOR

NIRVANA - "Lithium" - Geffen music video -CO-DIRECTOR

GUNS N ROSES - "Making F#$ing Videos! Part 1 -Don't Cry" - Geffen long form music video - DIRECTOR

GUNS N ROSES - "Don't Cry" (alt. lyrics version) - Geffen music video - DIRECTOR

GUNS N ROSES - "You Could Be Mine" - Geffen music video - CO-DIRECTOR**

GUNS N' ROSES - "My Michelle" - Uzi-Suicide productions - DIRECTOR/DP

GUNS N ROSES - "Mr Brownstone" - Uzi-Suicide productions - DIRECTOR/DP

CELEBRITY SKIN - "Hello" - Triple X music video - DIRECTOR

VINCENT ROCCO - "Rescue Me" - Elektra music video - DIRECTOR

THIS ASCENSION - "Ill Met By Moonlight" - Tess music video - DIRECTOR

JANE'S ADDICTION - "Gift" - Warner Home video - CO-DIRECTOR OF PHOTOGRAPHY

JANE'S ADDICTION - "Stop" - Warner Bros. music video - DIRECTOR OF PHOTOGRAPHY

JANE'S ADDICTION - "Classic Girl" - Warner Bros. music video - DIRECTOR OF PHOTOGRAPHY

THE BIG F - "Dr Vine" - Elektra music video -CO-DIRECTOR

[creep]

he needs to update his imdb page

maybe they don't count music videos.

[ragdoll]

he needs to update his imdb page

maybe they don't count music videos.

there's a short clip of Pete and Eric on Marks fb page
https://www.facebook.com/director.mark.racco

[clickie]

That guy had quite a resume in the 90's. Probably took some time off to raise a family or something now he's back.

[Stickyfingers]

To be fair, on every single Jane's Addiction album, Perry just kind of added lyrics to songs that were already there.

Rock is three chords, or riffs, the singer bring the melody line of the song.

Stones, Zepp, Lou Reed, Dylan, Ramones, Beatles, you name it...: you can play half rock catalogue with A D E chords progression that everybody can learn to play, but just McCartney came up with Let It Be melody, making milions dollars.

I think Dave was more fan of Steve Vai and Malmsteen. Instrumental guitar-heroes rock.

[panicparty]

I think Dave was more fan of Steve Vai and Malmsteen. Instrumental guitar-heroes rock.

I'm sure I remember Dave mentioning Vai in an interview back in the day, but his professed influences were a lot broader than pure "shredding" although of course he came from a metal band prior to Jane's - Daniel Ash and Robert Smith (as well as few other Brits from that era, I forget who) get mentioned frequently, as well as Jimmy Page and Hendrix (find a guitarist who doesn't name Hendrix as an influence, I guess, is the challenge).

Personally, I struggled to hear some of that in a lot of his work and wondered how much might have been Dave wanting to project himself a bit different from the herd, like the band did, but on TGEA, I finally found myself hearing a bit more of Dave's non-shredding influences coming through, especially Robert Smith.

[tvrec]

he needs to update his imdb page

maybe they don't count music videos.

there's a short clip of Pete and Eric on Marks fb page
https://www.facebook.com/director.mark.racco

I want to like it, but from that clip, the cover sounds like crap--though I will wait to hear it when it's actually recorded. I think that version is just them noodling through it for practice.

[perkana]

Yeah not only that but shame on anyone who thinks Pete cant do Ramble On justice.

as long as we aren't talking vocals...

Honestly, he doesn't sound that bad