Perry is serious about dance music

[creep]

i bet jane's does do a nye show though. can't pass up that big payday.

[cricket_bows]

So, what will Dave, Perk, Chaney do during this time? I certainly hope it's not Panic Channel.

I really would have liked to see Pete get some love and P4P to bring back Perk's more overtly funky, tropical, polyrhythmic approach.

Maybe there can be a new combo consisting of Perk, Pete, Dave, Eric or Martyn. They could get a younger, more artsy vocalist to keep them from the path of stale cock rock. Preferably a female. Somebody like the lady from Celebration...


Yup.

Talk about six degrees of separation.

Jasper, I had to do a search of the board for "Celebration" because I knew it was a mention here (by you last July) that made me purchase their first two releases; I put Katrina Ford's name in YouTube and this video with Sitek's TOTR came up [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku74U19vRNs[/youtube] (she doesn't get too much vocal time, unfortunately).

I completely agree with you on all points; I think it would renew them with energy, potentially push them musically, add something to the testosterone and- who knows- maybe some magic would happen. It seems so obvious.

[creep]

So a Janes Haitus for this! and now no Porno? Please. Lame. Come to your senses Perry. Your a rock guy, not a DJ. Here's how it goes, Kind Heaven in 2014. Money loss. Money needs to be made, Janes in 2015.

come to YOUR senses..they weren't even selling out indian casinos

you really think jane's isn't making good money out on the road? all they have to do is what they did this summer and play festivals. i bet they made a shitload of money at the indian casino too.

[kv]

their next step is bus tour you really think perry wants to put etty in a bus?

[Jasper]

So, what will Dave, Perk, Chaney do during this time? I certainly hope it's not Panic Channel.

I really would have liked to see Pete get some love and P4P to bring back Perk's more overtly funky, tropical, polyrhythmic approach.

Maybe there can be a new combo consisting of Perk, Pete, Dave, Eric or Martyn. They could get a younger, more artsy vocalist to keep them from the path of stale cock rock. Preferably a female. Somebody like the lady from Celebration...


Yup.

Talk about six degrees of separation.

Jasper, I had to do a search of the board for "Celebration" because I knew it was a mention here (by you last July) that made me purchase their first two releases; I put Katrina Ford's name in YouTube and this video with Sitek's TOTR came up (she doesn't get too much vocal time, unfortunately).

I completely agree with you on all points; I think it would renew them with energy, potentially push them musically, add something to the testosterone and- who knows- maybe some magic would happen. It seems so obvious.

Glad we agree. I think it could be incredible.

I embedded the video. There's some weird thing where you have to copy only the url section that comes after the equal sign, meaning this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku74U19vRNs
Becomes this:
ku74U19vRNs
Then of course goes inside of this:
[youtube][/youtube]

[nausearockpig]

So a Janes Haitus for this! and now no Porno? Please. Lame. Come to your senses Perry. Your a rock guy, not a DJ. Here's how it goes, Kind Heaven in 2014. Money loss. Money needs to be made, Janes in 2015.

come to YOUR senses..they weren't even selling out indian casinos

you really think jane's isn't making good money out on the road? all they have to do is what they did this summer and play festivals. i bet they made a shitload of money at the indian casino too.

Does anyone KNOW how much they make for a sold out show? Myxpltltp?

[cricket_bows]

I embedded the video. There's some weird thing where you have to copy only the url section that comes after the equal sign, meaning this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku74U19vRNs
Becomes this:
ku74U19vRNs
Then of course goes inside of this:
[youtube][/youtube]


Thanks for the counsel; I kept dorking with it and couldn't get to work - now I know for the future.

[creep]

So a Janes Haitus for this! and now no Porno? Please. Lame. Come to your senses Perry. Your a rock guy, not a DJ. Here's how it goes, Kind Heaven in 2014. Money loss. Money needs to be made, Janes in 2015.

come to YOUR senses..they weren't even selling out indian casinos

you really think jane's isn't making good money out on the road? all they have to do is what they did this summer and play festivals. i bet they made a shitload of money at the indian casino too.

Does anyone KNOW how much they make for a sold out show? Myxpltltp?

i have no idea but artie lange (comedian) used to talk about doing bigger theater shows and he would make around 60K. i would guess the average theater show with the show and merchandise they probably gross around 100k. after managemant, crew, perry's hotel bill, etty's room service...they probably make around minimum 10k each a show. this of course is just a guess. probably at least double that for a festival???

i would love to know how much they pay etty.

[Artemis]

i imagine the fees will depend on if the band is a headliner. also how big and successful the festival is.
so, something like coachella or one of the british ones like Glastonbury or Reading would pay a band like NIN to headline a couple of million dollars.

[Pandemonium]

Does anyone KNOW how much they make for a sold out show? Myxpltltp?

A band their size and draw usually makes around $100k - $250k per show playing indoor House of Blues/Theater sized venues. Merch sales can almost double that amount per show. However, I am sure Janes has a huge overhead which sucks away a lot more of the profits then a typical band their size and stature. A buddy who's band opened for some Social Distortion shows locally about a decade ago was floored how much money they pulled just on merch sales playing House of Blues clubs. Something like 80% of attendees bought at least a $30 shirt.

[Matz]

they make that much playing House of Blues, wow, never would have guessed. How the fuck can HOB make that money back. Thought it was way less. The merchandise thing is equally surprising

[Juana]

Does anyone KNOW how much they make for a sold out show? Myxpltltp?

A band their size and draw usually makes around $100k - $250k per show playing indoor House of Blues/Theater sized venues. Merch sales can almost double that amount per show. However, I am sure Janes has a huge overhead which sucks away a lot more of the profits then a typical band their size and stature. A buddy who's band opened for some Social Distortion shows locally about a decade ago was floored how much money they pulled just on merch sales playing House of Blues clubs. Something like 80% of attendees bought at least a $30 shirt.

Yeah Mike and co got like 150k in merch sales alone when they last played Stubbs in Austin.

[creep]

they make that much playing House of Blues, wow, never would have guessed. How the fuck can HOB make that money back. Thought it was way less. The merchandise thing is equally surprising

i'm pretty sure that smaller places make almost nothing off ticket sales. they just want the bodies in the building drinking $10 beers.

[JOEinPHX]

Does anyone KNOW how much they make for a sold out show? Myxpltltp?

A band their size and draw usually makes around $100k - $250k per show playing indoor House of Blues/Theater sized venues. Merch sales can almost double that amount per show. However, I am sure Janes has a huge overhead which sucks away a lot more of the profits then a typical band their size and stature. A buddy who's band opened for some Social Distortion shows locally about a decade ago was floored how much money they pulled just on merch sales playing House of Blues clubs. Something like 80% of attendees bought at least a $30 shirt.

There is no way Janes is getting paid that. 20-30k per show tops.

And I'll bet half of it goes to the dancers/piercer chicks/roadies

[Larry B.]

Does anyone KNOW how much they make for a sold out show? Myxpltltp?

A band their size and draw usually makes around $100k - $250k per show playing indoor House of Blues/Theater sized venues. Merch sales can almost double that amount per show. However, I am sure Janes has a huge overhead which sucks away a lot more of the profits then a typical band their size and stature. A buddy who's band opened for some Social Distortion shows locally about a decade ago was floored how much money they pulled just on merch sales playing House of Blues clubs. Something like 80% of attendees bought at least a $30 shirt.

There is no way Janes is getting paid that. 20-30k per show tops.

They are not worth that, but I could believe they are paid that. If there's one thing I could concede to Perry is that he knows how to do business. I mean, he manages to transform shitty products into money for Jane's' members and his family. So he might have found a way to just charge them those amounts.

[creep]

Does anyone KNOW how much they make for a sold out show? Myxpltltp?

A band their size and draw usually makes around $100k - $250k per show playing indoor House of Blues/Theater sized venues. Merch sales can almost double that amount per show. However, I am sure Janes has a huge overhead which sucks away a lot more of the profits then a typical band their size and stature. A buddy who's band opened for some Social Distortion shows locally about a decade ago was floored how much money they pulled just on merch sales playing House of Blues clubs. Something like 80% of attendees bought at least a $30 shirt.

There is no way Janes is getting paid that. 20-30k per show tops.

And I'll bet half of it goes to the dancers/piercer chicks/roadies

total? no way.

obviously they could make way more if they didn't bring the "dancers", clowns and girls on hooks. their last tour perry had his own bus also. if they cut out the five star hotels and go down to one bus they could do pretty well still playing to 2000 people a night.

[JOEinPHX]

Tiny clubs are not paying jane's addiction 100,000 to sell 800 tickets.

They may get that for festival appearances but their club shows are not making big money for them.

Probably why they accepted a big payday to do uproar. To even out what probably amounted to nothing from their headlining tour.

[Pandemonium]

Tiny clubs are not paying jane's addiction 100,000 to sell 800 tickets.

They may get that for festival appearances but their club shows are not making big money for them.

Probably why they accepted a big payday to do uproar. To even out what probably amounted to nothing from their headlining tour.

I'm certainly not saying they *cleared* $100 - $250k, obviously after everyone from the venue, Ticketmaster, the promoter, etc got their cut along with weekly "personal" tour expenses. I'd guess Perry, Dave and Perk probably had maybe $10 - $15k per show to divvy up between them (Chris likely gets a fixed weekly or monthly salary like an employee).

But do the math - average $60 ticket X 2500 attendees = $150k. Sure, they drew a lot less on some of the Theater size shows and ticket prices also varied widely from show to show. But they also pulled in up to 3,000 at a few of the larger venues as well and had higher priced VIP-type packages as well. The Wiltern here in LA holds about 2,300 people and Jane's show there last year was sold out. And we're not even including merch sales here.

Also, depending on how their arrangement works with local or nationwide promoters, they may have a up-front guarantee regardless of how well or poorly they sell tickets. I'm sure Janes and Alice in Chains didn't lose their shirts doing that shed tour - it was undoubtedly the promoter who put together that package tour that took the bath on shitty ticket sales even if it was a so-called 360 arrangement that included a cut of merch sales.

The key thing is, when a band like Janes doesn't meet attendance expectations on a tour, everyone in the industry knows it. What it means, is the "Jane's Addiction" brand becomes devalued as a touring entity playing a certain size venue and fewer if any promoters will want to take a chance to book similar scale tours the next time they go on the road. That's why you get "name" bands who've reached the point of barely filling clubs taking years off and maybe doing some sort of reunion to increase "buzz" once again about the band so they can get booked playing larger venues once again.

[MYXYLPLYX]

At the club I worked (cap. ~ 1,125) a headliner might earn on average around $10-15k guaranteed. On rare occasion there might be someone special taking in $25k...

[clickie]

My experience a band who sells out house of blues or a similar capacity club pulls in between $35-$50k. These werent sixty dollar tickets though. Less than that.

[creep]

ok...i guess i was off. i was just going by what a comedian got but that was vegas and i'm sure they are willing to pay much more to get people in their casinos.

with three busses, two dancers, a clown, a tour manager, two guitar techs and a drum tech (am i forgetting anyone?) i doubt they made much money on their theater of escapists tour.

[nausearockpig]

The sad thing is that they (PF) think they need all this extra shit to give people a "full experience" when all they really need is the band on stage rocking out.

[clickie]

I know, if I was the other 3 members i'd be like fine whatever you say Perry but thats coming outta your cut muthfucka.

[clickie]

I wonder what Perry's biggest payday ever for a single performance was. Probably Woodstock.

Did you guys ever notice right after Good God's Urge! Perry thinks they finished their set and starts walking off the stage, but the other guys run over and remind him they have one more song. Then they play pfp and its very anti-climatic.

[creep]

I wonder what Perry's biggest payday ever for a single performance was. Probably Woodstock.

lollapalooza 2009. they headlined for some reason.