No Jane's NYE show this year

[Matz]

and Dave has Spread, which I love. I don't dislike TNO either at all. Dave can do a hell of a lot on his own if he wants to. Problem is: he dont want to

[Hokahey]

and Dave has Spread, which I love. I don't dislike TNO either at all. Dave can do a hell of a lot on his own if he wants to. Problem is: he dont want to

And Perry did SYTBS a lifetime ago which was at minimum not a complete joke, and at best a damn fine record.

But as it's been said, these guys NOW are unlikely to make anything decent without one another.

[Matz]

well, I don't have your, what seems to be psychic abilities when it comes to knowing what Dave is capable of now, so I'll stick to guessing. And my guess is that he's the one who has most of that specialness left out of all of them and I think he could do something interesting and cool if he wanted to. He's a major, major talent like Chaney said in that interview

[Hokahey]

well, I don't have your, what seems to be psychic abilities when it comes to knowing what Dave is capable of now, so I'll stick to guessing. And my guess is that he's the one who has most of that specialness left out of all of them and I think he could do something interesting and cool if he wanted to. He's a major, major talent like Chaney said in that interview

Want to know the secret to my psychic powers?

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

None of these guys have done anything decent without each other in over a decade.

[blackcoffee]

well, I don't have your, what seems to be psychic abilities when it comes to knowing what Dave is capable of now, so I'll stick to guessing. And my guess is that he's the one who has most of that specialness left out of all of them and I think he could do something interesting and cool if he wanted to. He's a major, major talent like Chaney said in that interview

Want to know the secret to my psychic powers?

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

None of these guys have done anything decent without each other in over a decade.

And truly what they did do that was utterly fantastic was done in a very, very short space of time. History won't look back on the first Porno as anything earth shattering. It has it's moments and I listened because I was young and caught up in Perry. It's more dated now than Jane's in many ways. The other Perry stuff was direct to bargain bin in most stores. It's likely kind heaven will never see the light of day, though I do like the name.

[Pandemonium]

These guys have proven what they want to do without Perry in the fold, and its almost as bad as what Perry does without them. Dont kid yourself.

At least Dave, Perkins and Cheney do it with real live music instruments vs Perry who sits on his ass behind a PC.

[SR]

I am as big a homer as anyone for that short window BC referred to, but I've always questioned the 'musical genius' label ascribed to PF for pandas reason just above. I remember (as much as I can) a party where someone was playing a video of the band rehearsing in a very modest setting and the person showing it gushing on about PF being such a genius, and I was eagerly looking for it in the vid, but couldn't find it. That must have been just after NS. The collective work was genius, and PF one in his delivery and lyrics, but I still question his authenticity as the sole lyric writer.

[Warped]

well, I don't have your, what seems to be psychic abilities when it comes to knowing what Dave is capable of now, so I'll stick to guessing. And my guess is that he's the one who has most of that specialness left out of all of them and I think he could do something interesting and cool if he wanted to. He's a major, major talent like Chaney said in that interview

This.

With TGEA's mostly shitty lyrics and the poor success he must be truely disappointed considering the work he put into it..Maybe someday..i would love if he put out HIS work

And CF at the end of the year is just fun - not more not less, i would definitely go if i could

[Pandemonium]

And CF at the end of the year is just fun - not more not less, i would definitely go if i could

Every year I find a NYE show I might want to check out, my wife begs me not to go because of all the drunks on the road that night on the LA area freeways. Although I've done a few Late December shows around the holiday break the last decade, the last NYE show was Janes at the Wiltern at the end of '02 and that was a pretty scarey drive back home.

[Deconstruction]

Dave still came up with some interesting stuff on TGEA, the shortcoming of that album is Perry's shit lyrics on songs like Irresistible Force and half assed/disjointed melodies.

[kv]

And CF at the end of the year is just fun - not more not less, i would definitely go if i could

Every year I find a NYE show I might want to check out, my wife begs me not to go because of all the drunks on the road that night on the LA area freeways. Although I've done a few Late December shows around the holiday break the last decade, the last NYE show was Janes at the Wiltern at the end of '02 and that was a pretty scarey drive back home.

it had to be..i know i was driving wasted that night

[panicparty]

Dave, Perk & Avery team up...

Seen a few comments along these lines of late in here, and I keep thinking "WTF?" - there's got to be less chance of Dave working with EA again than there ever has been since they met. Whatever you think about EA's comments in the interviews, whether what he said was fair and true, and separately whether, regardless, it was a classy thing to do in public, it's been pretty clear how hurt Dave was in particular by Eric, what with the comments Dave made on his radio show and so on. (And let's not forget it's not just the "xiola tapes" - Eric's been pretty bitchy at times on twitter with his "they're not very good anymore" type comments about Jane's - I can't imagine Dave would think highly of someone as a "friend" when they keep publicly slagging off the band you're in).

I mean, for all the times Dave falls out with people in his career, he's pretty notable for not actually slagging people off in public. You'll have to look hard for anything really negative from Dave about Kiedis or any of the Chilis (including Fru), or about Perry despite all the battles. That, against a backdrop where there's been plenty of unkind stuff said about Dave by them and others over the years. So for Dave to bite, and sling something back in Eric's direction suggests to me that he was pretty hurt, and I wouldn't be surprised if EA is pretty far down the list of potential collaborators in Dave's head as he looks forward to a maybe Jane's-less musical future.

[Romeo]

Dave, Perk & Avery team up...

Seen a few comments along these lines of late in here, and I keep thinking "WTF?" - there's got to be less chance of Dave working with EA again than there ever has been since they met. Whatever you think about EA's comments in the interviews, whether what he said was fair and true, and separately whether, regardless, it was a classy thing to do in public, it's been pretty clear how hurt Dave was in particular by Eric, what with the comments Dave made on his radio show and so on. (And let's not forget it's not just the "xiola tapes" - Eric's been pretty bitchy at times on twitter with his "they're not very good anymore" type comments about Jane's - I can't imagine Dave would think highly of someone as a "friend" when they keep publicly slagging off the band you're in).

I mean, for all the times Dave falls out with people in his career, he's pretty notable for not actually slagging people off in public. You'll have to look hard for anything really negative from Dave about Kiedis or any of the Chilis (including Fru), or about Perry despite all the battles. That, against a backdrop where there's been plenty of unkind stuff said about Dave by them and others over the years. So for Dave to bite, and sling something back in Eric's direction suggests to me that he was pretty hurt, and I wouldn't be surprised if EA is pretty far down the list of potential collaborators in Dave's head as he looks forward to a maybe Jane's-less musical future.

Excuse me but....

Bullshit.

Dave was famous for "slagging" Perry on SRL around the time SP was touring doing 85% Janes tunes on the set list, going as far as telling anyone listening to go to you tube to hear how horrible they were.
And look where we are now, Dave kissing the ass of his meal ticket. So if you think Dave bad mouthing Eric on his "radio" show is the nail in the EA/DN relationship, History with Dave has proven otherwise.

[SR]

Dave had words for fru? Cad

[JOEinPHX]

Dave, Perk & Avery team up...

Seen a few comments along these lines of late in here, and I keep thinking "WTF?" - there's got to be less chance of Dave working with EA again than there ever has been since they met. Whatever you think about EA's comments in the interviews, whether what he said was fair and true, and separately whether, regardless, it was a classy thing to do in public, it's been pretty clear how hurt Dave was in particular by Eric, what with the comments Dave made on his radio show and so on. (And let's not forget it's not just the "xiola tapes" - Eric's been pretty bitchy at times on twitter with his "they're not very good anymore" type comments about Jane's - I can't imagine Dave would think highly of someone as a "friend" when they keep publicly slagging off the band you're in).

I mean, for all the times Dave falls out with people in his career, he's pretty notable for not actually slagging people off in public. You'll have to look hard for anything really negative from Dave about Kiedis or any of the Chilis (including Fru), or about Perry despite all the battles. That, against a backdrop where there's been plenty of unkind stuff said about Dave by them and others over the years. So for Dave to bite, and sling something back in Eric's direction suggests to me that he was pretty hurt, and I wouldn't be surprised if EA is pretty far down the list of potential collaborators in Dave's head as he looks forward to a maybe Jane's-less musical future.

Excuse me but....

Bullshit.

Dave was famous for "slagging" Perry on SRL around the time SP was touring doing 85% Janes tunes on the set list, going as far as telling anyone listening to go to you tube to hear how horrible they were.
And look where we are now, Dave kissing the ass of his meal ticket. So if you think Dave bad mouthing Eric on his "radio" show is the nail in the EA/DN relationship, History with Dave has proven otherwise.

Dave never slagged Perry on SRL.

He would however slag all the Perry fans who kept telling him that he sucked without Perry. So he would tell them they could still go see Perry if they wanted to.

Otherwise he actually continued to be very good about not saying anything negative.

Avery on the other hand, was strange. He basically came out at that one point and said "fuck that guy", so who knows. Maybe he felt more comfortable doing so because he knew it would never affect him financially in the future.

[Romeo]

again bullshit because I heard it. It was 2007 before I saw SP at Irving Plaza. Dave was very upset particularly at a youtube video if SP butchering Mountain song. And THEN on a separate occasion slammed Perry for a interview he did with a UK publication during the SP london swing where Perry blamed Dave's participation in Reality TV with the break up of Janes.

He most certainly DID slam Perry back then

[SR]

Dave had words for fru? Cad

[Matz]

Dave had words for fru? Cad

anyone please back up what that's about? No way Dave said anything bad about him

[Pandemonium]

again bullshit because I heard it. It was 2007 before I saw SP at Irving Plaza. Dave was very upset particularly at a youtube video if SP butchering Mountain song. And THEN on a separate occasion slammed Perry for a interview he did with a UK publication during the SP london swing where Perry blamed Dave's participation in Reality TV with the break up of Janes.

He most certainly DID slam Perry back then

I remember reading/hearing about both instances.

[JOEinPHX]

Sources people. Come on.

[Hokahey]

I distinctly remember Dave making fun of Perry for gathering a bunch of journalists together backstage at Lolla and playing them awful SP songs on a boombox as if it was the second coming of the Beatles.

Source: my brain

[bman]

It was Perk actually. I forgot what show it was. But Perk/Dave were doing a Panic Channel interview or something like that. The interviewer said something about Perry actually playing a bit of Satellite Party's "Celebrate" from a boombox into a mic on the Lolla stage before some band came on, I guess like the Summer before Ultra Pay Loaded came out. Perk just said something snarky like, 'What Fun!'...

Who cares. Ancient history.

[Everybody's Friend]

Everybody's Slave / I made you my slave...

[clickie]

Who cares. Ancient history.

Yeah really, from now on lets only talk about the future of Janes.

[blackula]

Who cares. Ancient history.

Yeah really, from now on lets only talk about the future of Janes.

New album in 2015 with Peter Hook on bass.