Dave speaks on how he didn't jive with the Peppers

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Dave speaks on how he didn't jive with the Peppers

#1 Post by cricket_bows » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:55 pm

http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archiv ... 303500061c

four other interesting mini-interviews as well

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#2 Post by SR » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:16 pm

Interesting he thinks it's a flawed album as a result of poor levels of artistic compatibility. That means ak as he's worked with flea a great deal.

:edit: on second thought, maybe not. Flea was a hired gun in JA

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#3 Post by Matz » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:35 pm

I think it's more interesting that he doesn't have anything to do with any of them anymore. the way he said it sounded, to me, like there's some resentment....some kind of drama going on perhaps which could explain his comment on OHM........wild speculation of the day on ANR

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#5 Post by Noonesshocking » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:45 pm

"I left the chili peppers and went right back to jane's addiction and have really stayed in that band ever since*"

*except 1998-2001, and 2004-2008

In all seriousness though, Dave has got some interesting things to say. I always enjoy the interviews like this where he isn't talking about directing porn or whatever.

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#6 Post by SR » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:02 pm

Matz wrote:I think it's more interesting that he doesn't have anything to do with any of them anymore. the way he said it sounded, to me, like there's some resentment....some kind of drama going on perhaps which could explain his comment on OHM........wild speculation of the day on ANR
It really doesn't surprise me much. Say what you (hypothetical you) will about the chilis, I know they try for artistic credibility and to maintain some reverence/servitude to music. Dave has shit all over those ideals in, ironically, creative and prolific ways.

Btw, about 10 years ago I was in a social situation with ak and dn. when they spoke it appeared stressed, labored, and tense.....and brief. :lol:
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#7 Post by SR » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:05 pm

And I remember an interview many moons ago where dn bragged about ohm.....something about being very proud of the album and appreciative that it remained his top selling album. I've personally grown to love that album and think its sound artistically. Dn seems a bit bitter/tired lately.

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#8 Post by Warped » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:32 am

I really enjoyed the interview, good questions - good answers, nice to watch also....haha :love:

I would not think too much about his comments on the Chilis..don't think there is anything going on there between them. Separate ways, that's it. And after all these years..really..who cares.

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#9 Post by clickie » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:15 am

Never cared for that particular Chili's record. He was not a good fit. As a matter of fact, you couldn't find a worse replacement than Dave. He happened to be available at the right time but it turned out to be a one and done deal because the music was weak and lacked any cohesiveness.

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#10 Post by Romeo » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:20 am

could it be because AK was using at the time....

I personally think Dave's guitar work on OHM was great. I think he was creative and tried his best to fit the RHCP mold. I don't know why he always puts that period down instead of being proud of what he did accomplish.
He was at least friendly with Chad about 2008, I saw Chad play with Camp Freddy then

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#11 Post by Matz » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:32 am

SR wrote:
Matz wrote:I think it's more interesting that he doesn't have anything to do with any of them anymore. the way he said it sounded, to me, like there's some resentment....some kind of drama going on perhaps which could explain his comment on OHM........wild speculation of the day on ANR
It really doesn't surprise me much. Say what you (hypothetical you) will about the chilis, I know they try for artistic credibility and to maintain some reverence/servitude to music. Dave has shit all over those ideals in, ironically, creative and prolific ways.
yeah I agree, they still care deeply about music, which is cool of course. I also remember what Dave said in that interview years ago. It's kind of sad he's playing it down now. Maybe it's because the other members basically have been trashing it every time it comes up..."It could have been so much better.." and all that nonsense, so maybe he feels like a fool if he sits there and raves about it....another wild speculation. I think he still is very proud of it but doesn't want to say it. And he should be, his work on it is brillant, legendary almost

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#12 Post by Warped » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:38 am

Matz wrote: I think he still is very proud of it but doesn't want to say it. And he should be, his work on it is brillant, legendary almost
:nod:

And he still and regularly gets a lot credit for OHM on twitter or fb ...and i am sure he appreciates that a lot.

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#13 Post by Larry B. » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:59 am

And maybe if he goes a bit deeper into the subject he'd be forced to confess that he thinks everything the Peppers have released after OHM has been incredibly shitty. One Hot Minute was their last creative and ground-breaking effort. Everything after that has been wishy-washy at best.

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#14 Post by JOEinPHX » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:40 am

I think Dave is unhappy with the album, and the rest of the RHCP are unhappy with the album, because both met halfway rather than just being who they are.

the RHCP went a little darker towards Dave's musical end of the spectrum, and Dave played those fucking thin sounding strats to sound more like John, and then the end result was 4 dudes playing totally different styles than they were comfortable with.

In the end, the only person who was a better version of themselves was Anthony, because he was trying more to be Perry Farrell than his wacky stupid lyric self.

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#15 Post by clickie » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:38 am

I give them a thumbs up for trying, although I always felt a little bit bad for that Jessie Tobias guy.

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#16 Post by Matz » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:57 am

clickie wrote:I give them a thumbs up for trying, although I always felt a little bit bad for that Jessie Tobias guy.
he's probably working in a supermarket right now doing fine, don't worry about it. If he'd stayed we wouldn't have had OHM and that would have been a disaster

you know something click, if you compare OHM to ANY rock album that'll come out in 2014 it will most likely destroy em all by a long, long shot. You're the minority on this one

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#17 Post by someguy » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:01 pm

Dave spoke highly of it on his website in 2010. For awhile they were all on good terms- i remember back when he would answer questions on 6767 he'd say how tight he was with all of them, anthony included. He played with flea in 2008 and was raving about bssm on twitter in 2009. Something must've happened to really piss him off a few years ago. In that interview where he goes off on Eric, someone said something to the effect of "now tell us how you really feel about the peppers." It's a shame- OHM is so badass. Shows just how rad Dave is as a reactive writer. Ironically on twitter a few weeks ago he said his favorite OHM song is Transcending.

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#18 Post by Matz » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:14 pm

someguy wrote:Shows just how rad Dave is as a reactive writer..
exactly, that's a great point. If you take the bass line for a song like Shallow be thy game it's not really that special. But then Dave comes in and funks up a storm with that great riff and all the cool overdubs and interludes and stuff and then you have a great song.

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#19 Post by SR » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:26 pm

Shallow is my favorite song on this album

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#20 Post by creep » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:33 pm

someguy wrote:Dave spoke highly of it on his website in 2010. For awhile they were all on good terms- i remember back when he would answer questions on 6767 he'd say how tight he was with all of them, anthony included. He played with flea in 2008 and was raving about bssm on twitter in 2009. Something must've happened to really piss him off a few years ago.
i think dave sort of admitted that he felt slighted at the hall of fame thing.

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#21 Post by Matz » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:01 pm

of course, that's what he's down about. That semi talented Klinghoffer gets in but no Dave.... :essence:

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#22 Post by Romeo » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:37 pm

creep wrote:
someguy wrote:Dave spoke highly of it on his website in 2010. For awhile they were all on good terms- i remember back when he would answer questions on 6767 he'd say how tight he was with all of them, anthony included. He played with flea in 2008 and was raving about bssm on twitter in 2009. Something must've happened to really piss him off a few years ago.
i think dave sort of admitted that he felt slighted at the hall of fame thing.
Well he should, though he'd never admit it.
It would be one thing if he was just a stand in for the one album, but he was a Pepper for 5 years, toured extensively with them. Recorded a record with them that did reach #4, which I realize is a disappointment on the heels of BSSM but still good.

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#23 Post by Pandemonium » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:07 pm

Matz wrote:of course, that's what he's down about. That semi talented Klinghoffer gets in but no Dave.... :essence:
Of all people, Paul Stanley of KISS really sums up how fucked up the RnRHoF is regarding who gets inducted, even within a bands former lineup:

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/paul-s ... distorted/

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#24 Post by JOEinPHX » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:12 pm

I wish Dave was more of a packrat.

He could donate his RHCP light bulb costume, or his Parker Fly used to record My Friends.

He could get himself into the RHCP Hall of Fame display just on his donations alone. Fuck those guys :lol:

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#25 Post by Matz » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:17 pm

Romeo wrote:
creep wrote:
someguy wrote:Dave spoke highly of it on his website in 2010. For awhile they were all on good terms- i remember back when he would answer questions on 6767 he'd say how tight he was with all of them, anthony included. He played with flea in 2008 and was raving about bssm on twitter in 2009. Something must've happened to really piss him off a few years ago.
i think dave sort of admitted that he felt slighted at the hall of fame thing.
Well he should, though he'd never admit it.
It would be one thing if he was just a stand in for the one album, but he was a Pepper for 5 years, toured extensively with them. Recorded a record with them that did reach #4, which I realize is a disappointment on the heels of BSSM but still good.
they didn't even consider asking him probably. It's just beyond disgraceful on their part....disgusting behavior. I think he's really hurt by it

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