Time is weird. And scary

[Hokahey]

Next year will be 12 years since the release of Strays. 12. God. Damn. Years.

Additionally, that is almost (1 year removed) the same amount of time that passed between the release of Ritual and Strays.

It's just incomprehensible to me that the vast amount of time that passed between Ritual and Strays is the same amount of time that's passed since Strays was released.

No, I'm not high. But this sinus infection has me head funny.

Does anyone else ever use Jane's Addiction milestones to reflect on the passage and perception of time?

Here's another one - I was 21 when I first got on these boards as Hokahey and was arguing with you idiots.

I am now approaching 36.

[Larry B.]

I've visited these boards half of my life. I've had more continuous contact with some of you people than with 95% of my school classmates.

[Artemis]

Marone!(I've been watching The Sopranso) It's 12 years I've been on these boards!
I think back when I met Hype and a few other board members( some no longer post on boards) at The Hard Rock Cafe before the JA concert in 2003. Hype was still in high school and not yet the legal drinking age here.
I'm approaching 48..

[SR]

I am 48 and don't remember when I joined. 2 things are clear, I couldn't understand the flame culture for the life of me. Glad that's gone for the most part. And at one point some were convinced I was DN

[someguy]

It's crazy. This christmas will be ten years since I got ns and RDLH as christmas presents. I was 15 and for some reason was curious about those records. It was a formative time for me, and for the next few years I wanted to see the original lineup like crazy. Hard to believe I got that chance and we're at the point now where they'll never do anything worthwhile again.

[JOEinPHX]

Eric Avery played bass for Jane's Addiction from 1986 to 1991, and 2008 to 2010

7 years

Chris Chaney played bass for Jane's Addiction from 2002-2004, 2009-2010, and 2011 to present

9 Years

Time IS weird.

[Bandit72]

This board is worse than heroin. (N.B. I've never taken heroin, although I did smoke some opium in Thailand in 1998)

I was panicking and in crisis when xiola disappeared overnight. Like some junky looking for his next fix. Credit to you lot.

[Noonesshocking]

4 years between when Jane's broke up again in 2004 and Eric came back. They've been going ever since and are set to surpass the length of their original run from '85 to '91.

[JOEinPHX]

4 years between when Jane's broke up again in 2004 and Eric came back. They've been going ever since and are set to surpass the length of their original run from '85 to '91.

Yes and no. It's not like they are cranking out music and touring as much as they did back then.

The Farrell's Hawaiian Vacation Punch Card has more holes in it than Jane's Tour Punch Card.

[Noonesshocking]

4 years between when Jane's broke up again in 2004 and Eric came back. They've been going ever since and are set to surpass the length of their original run from '85 to '91.

Yes and no. It's not like they are cranking out music and touring as much as they did back then.

The Farrell's Hawaiian Vacation Punch Card has more holes in it than Jane's Tour Punch Card.

Well yeah, I wasn't quantifying it in terms of quality!

[Hype]

It's true. I still think SR might be Dave Navarro, and I know he isn't.

And I think I don't like Jane's Addiction anymore.

The feeling of the passage of time definitely accelerates as you get older, probably because your brain can only handle so much information at once, and it has more of it in the past, so the last 12 years feels like only a few years, but the 12 years before that felt like an eternity.

I still feel like 9/11 was only a few years ago. Not to mention that first JA show I missed in 2001... because I was working at a Wendy's... In some ways that feels like less than 5 years ago... but I've now been a graduate student for more years than I was an undergrad, and I've been out of high school for as many years as I had been in school by the end of it.

But I guess another way to put it is: thank fuck the George W. Bush years feel like a blur now... they were godawful.

[blackcoffee]

It's true. I still think SR might be Dave Navarro, and I know he isn't.

And I think I don't like Jane's Addiction anymore.

The feeling of the passage of time definitely accelerates as you get older, probably because your brain can only handle so much information at once, and it has more of it in the past, so the last 12 years feels like only a few years, but the 12 years before that felt like an eternity.

I still feel like 9/11 was only a few years ago. Not to mention that first JA show I missed in 2001... because I was working at a Wendy's... In some ways that feels like less than 5 years ago... but I've now been a graduate student for more years than I was an undergrad, and I've been out of high school for as many years as I had been in school by the end of it.

But I guess another way to put it is: thank fuck the George W. Bush years feel like a blur now... they were godawful.

Hype, have you heard the description of time like a rubber band, and how in our youth, the band is being stretched, but as we age it is resuming its normal shape. It really comes down to experience. Everything in childhood is brand new. Once we're older the number of "new" experiences is fewer and fewer.

[Hype]

It's true. I still think SR might be Dave Navarro, and I know he isn't.

And I think I don't like Jane's Addiction anymore.

The feeling of the passage of time definitely accelerates as you get older, probably because your brain can only handle so much information at once, and it has more of it in the past, so the last 12 years feels like only a few years, but the 12 years before that felt like an eternity.

I still feel like 9/11 was only a few years ago. Not to mention that first JA show I missed in 2001... because I was working at a Wendy's... In some ways that feels like less than 5 years ago... but I've now been a graduate student for more years than I was an undergrad, and I've been out of high school for as many years as I had been in school by the end of it.

But I guess another way to put it is: thank fuck the George W. Bush years feel like a blur now... they were godawful.

Hype, have you heard the description of time like a rubber band, and how in our youth, the band is being stretched, but as we age it is resuming its normal shape. It really comes down to experience. Everything in childhood is brand new. Once we're older the number of "new" experiences is fewer and fewer.

Yeah, that seems to be a common view. Plato has written, famously, about the joy of finally reaching old age, when you are less tempted by libidinous impulses (sex, adventure, food, etc), and can just enjoy being.

'How about your service of Aphrodite, Sophocles—is your natural force still unabated?' And he replied, 'Hush, man, most gladly have I escaped this thing you talk of, as if I had run away from a raging and savage beast of a master.' I thought it a good answer then and now I think so still more. For in very truth there comes to old age a great tranquillity in such matters and a blessed release. When the fierce tensions of the passions and desires relax, then is the word of Sophocles approved,

But I think there's something to be said for not putting too much emphasis on the repetitiveness of experience in life. There's a reason why philosophers have the term "inductive fallacy": people often reason that because things have always been a certain way in the past, they will be that way in the future, or are that way now, and this is a major feature of "generation-gap" issues, as well as utter failures to avoid disasters. So while it's true that there can be wisdom in having simply experienced many more things (especially if these things are themselves diverse), there's a fine line between experiential wisdom and jaded ignorance. It's probably a good thing to learn to avoid the latter as much as possible, and I think one way to do that is to accept that experience isn't the only teacher we can have (the other is the set of rational capacities we cultivate that can allow us to reason clearly about old and new experiences in ways that aren't merely inferences from the way things have always been).

But the fact that the experience of the passage of time seems to change with age is interesting. My dad remarked a while back how interesting it was when I turned the age he was when I was born, because it meant he was now double my age, and yet the distance between his being the age I was now, and my being an infant seem like totally different lengths of time.

[Larry B.]

Fun fact: the last 2 digits of the year your father was born is the age you will be when his age is the last 2 digits of the year you were born.

I was born in 1984, my father in 1953. When I'm 53, my father will be 84. None of us will reach those ages, though.

[Romeo]

I am 48 and don't remember when I joined. 2 things are clear, I couldn't understand the flame culture for the life of me. Glad that's gone for the most part. And at one point some were convinced I was DN

I'm now 51


And you might be.

[Stickyfingers]

Jane Says was written in 1985. 30 years ago. Fuck.

30 years later, they are still playing Jane Says every night. Milking the old cow, two chords.

1989 I was a young kid.
I remember after reading a review, I went music shop and buy the cassette. Went to the beach alone and listen the entire album and decided they were my band.

Spending days listening radios interview, interviews on magazines... the first slow connection to 1% and xiola fanpages... now they have facebook, twitter, instagram.... but I don't listen Janes anymore...

Has been a long ride together... "but never will again".

[Romeo]

They may say, Those were the days...

[Hype]

I still don't understand the Bob Ezrin Rawk Pseudo-U2- thing they've morphed into... Even though I do understand that people change as they get older. Hell, a lot of songs on the two great records don't sound as good to me as they once did because they were the cause of my being introduced to so much other great music (backwards and forwards in time).

[Bandit72]

The feeling of the passage of time definitely accelerates as you get older, probably because your brain can only handle so much information at once, and it has more of it in the past, so the last 12 years feels like only a few years, but the 12 years before that felt like an eternity.

Never thought of it like that. What do you go with on the whole "how much of your brain do you actually use" theory? I wonder if the perception of time varies with the amount of 'brain power' actually used?

[nausearockpig]

I still don't understand the Bob Ezrin Rawk Pseudo-U2- thing they've morphed into... /snip/.....

I'm sure this has been said before but.... I'd guess that after the initial burst of creative output, Perry ran out of great basslines to hum to Eric.. They rode the wave of Jane's until they couldn't sustain or stand it any more, then when he formed Pornos the leftovers in his head were fleshed out with Martyn and Pete and now there's just nothing left in the tank... by "now" I mean what ended up in Strays and TGEA...

[Hype]

The feeling of the passage of time definitely accelerates as you get older, probably because your brain can only handle so much information at once, and it has more of it in the past, so the last 12 years feels like only a few years, but the 12 years before that felt like an eternity.

Never thought of it like that. What do you go with on the whole "how much of your brain do you actually use" theory? I wonder if the perception of time varies with the amount of 'brain power' actually used?

We all use all of our brain a lot of the time. But we don't always get to live up to our potential.

[Jasper]

The feeling of the passage of time definitely accelerates as you get older

I (gently) told you that about, oh, seven years ago when encouraging you to seize the day, and you flipped out and insisted I was telling you how to live, and claimed it (the perception of time speeding up) was probably only true for me, so I should . . . stop telling you how to live.

[kv]

Ah F.T.W. skater hype...i like older drunker hype more

[Larry B.]

Ah F.T.W. skater hype...i like older drunker hype more

They're both equally douchey, it's just that his older douchery has got more in common with your own douchery, thus appearing more likeable.

[kv]

Not true is the other way around