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Pandemonium wrote:I can't remember who's site it was but the first Janes-related board (it was more a website that people posted show reviews and comments) I posted on was during the Relapse tour in late '97.

That might have been the Pigs in Zen site that was on Geocities. I found that site on the Jane's Addiction Ate My Balls page ( http://members.tripod.com/~krazy_keith/Ballz.html ) and it was on that Pigs in Zen site that I learned what songs Jane's would be playing during the Relapse tour by reading other peoples reviews.

It also had a tape trading section and it was there that I built up my bootleg collection by offering up the ENIT '97 show I recorded to random people I'd sent emails to.

I then went to 1% before it had forums in 98 or 99 and have bounced around each Jane's related site ever since.

Interesting thread.

I'd never heard that early version of True Nature before - not the Hyperleaked version but the one in the YouTube clip.

Is there a full bootleg of demos with this rougher sound?

Thanks.

Pandemonium wrote:I can't remember who's site it was but the first Janes-related board (it was more a website that people posted show reviews and comments) I posted on was during the Relapse tour in late '97. That was where I learned of the Beverly Hills mansion show that I tried to get in to that night.

Right on! There was a Jane's site I'd check every day leading up to relapse. I just got the Internet and heard rumors of a Jane's reunion at Porno For Pyros shows. I would look for any news or update, I checked that site every day and thanks to that site I knew when tickets went on sale and went to the relapse show. I never posted until someone reviewed the Halloween show and greatly exaggerated what went on (MTV cameras pulled down in a riot, Casey was there). I picked a message board fight and then never posted anything again until Xiola!

blackula wrote:I never posted until someone reviewed the Halloween show and greatly exaggerated what went on (MTV cameras pulled down in a riot(...)

Hmmm. While there was no riot, MTV did have a very long robotic arm with a camera on it. It was capable of going out from the left side all the way into the middle of the crowd. It was low over the crowd, and people jumped up and grabbed it. It was briefly stuck there, with people hanging onto it, their weight making it slump even lower. It was pretty funny.

I can't remember if this shows up in the footage. I think Perry might have commented on it at the end of the show.

The second Relapse show I saw did in fact feature a small riot-like event at the beginning. During Ocean Size there was a huge surge to the front, and the barrier broke. I think someone ended up with a broken ankle or two, though I'm not sure what else may have happened. The band retreated, and the show was delayed for a long time, perhaps 45 minutes or so. Apparently it was too wild in there, and the band elected to play the acoustic set from the stage, rather than venture through the crowd. The show was so-so, and the sound in this basketball auditorium was godawful, but Ted, which I think was the closer, was one of the most savage versions I've heard.

Jasper wrote:

blackula wrote:I never posted until someone reviewed the Halloween show and greatly exaggerated what went on (MTV cameras pulled down in a riot(...)

Hmmm. While there was no riot, MTV did have a very long robotic arm with a camera on it. It was capable of going out from the left side all the way into the middle of the crowd. It was low over the crowd, and people jumped up and grabbed it. It was briefly stuck there, with people hanging onto it, their weight making it slump even lower. It was pretty funny.

I can't remember if this shows up in the footage. I think Perry might have commented on it at the end of the show.

The second Relapse show I saw did in fact feature a small riot-like event at the beginning. During Ocean Size there was a huge surge to the front, and the barrier broke. I think someone ended up with a broken ankle or two, though I'm not sure what else may have happened. The band retreated, and the show was delayed for a long time, perhaps 45 minutes or so. Apparently it was too wild in there, and the band elected to play the acoustic set from the stage, rather than venture through the crowd. The show was so-so, and the sound in this basketball auditorium was godawful, but Ted, which I think was the closer, was one of the most savage versions I've heard.

I know, Perry did comment. Describing it as a riot and saying Casey was at the side of the stage is what brought me out of "lurker" status!

Was that Chicago?

blackula wrote:I know, Perry did comment. Describing it as a riot and saying Casey was at the side of the stage is what brought me out of "lurker" status!

Was that Chicago?

Where the barrier broke? That was in the greater Boston area. Brandeis University in Waltham. Gosman Center, an atrocious venue fit only for sports.

elbuitre wrote:Interesting thread.

I'd never heard that early version of True Nature before - not the Hyperleaked version but the one in the YouTube clip.

Is there a full bootleg of demos with this rougher sound?

Thanks.

Bump

kv wrote:yep that show sucked...hypersonic, price i pay a shitty suffer some and a bad clash cover followed by etty toasting us at midnight...refused to see them again till eric came back and then just once then nevermore

I thought it was rad that the show was at the Wiltern the Strummer tribute sucked. But I liked STUN or whatever they were called they seemed fun.

i remember them as being horibad myself...so it goes

kv wrote:i remember them as being horibad myself...so it goes

I need to dig up the cd I got from the merch booth and give it a listen.

their top you tube search...i stand by my thoughts from years past

kv wrote:

their top you tube search...i stand by my thoughts from years past

I was on a shit ton of hallucinogenics so yeah they were fun compared to that boring ass version of Janes

Juana wrote:I was on a shit ton of hallucinogenics so yeah they were fun compared to that boring ass version of Janes

A shit ton of hallucinogenics? Wow, how edgy of you. Must've been super amazing balls, you know, with all the trippin from the shit ton of hallucinogenics you were on that time, you know? And I'm sure it wasn't the only time either, I'm sure you've been on a shit ton of hallucinogenics many times, maybe even regularly. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if you're on a shit ton of hallucinogenics right now. I can feel your edge right here, right here sort of cutting my ears with that edge of yours, so sharp because of the shit ton of hallucinogenics you were on that night.

Hi! I know this is an old post, but, can someone please re upload those early versions of Strays?

Here's is the link for the video of Jane's Addiction - 12-11-2003 - Hammersmith Carling Apollo, London, England. I uploaded it yesterday. I remember that I downloaded it many years ago with some software, but I totally forgot I had it on my old computer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQF0YRJbAsc

kv wrote:

their top you tube search...i stand by my thoughts from years past

Bulls On Parade (With Brain Damage)...

Street Funk wrote:Hi! I know this is an old post, but, can someone please re upload those early versions of Strays?

Here's is the link for the video of Jane's Addiction - 12-11-2003 - Hammersmith Carling Apollo, London, England. I uploaded it yesterday. I remember that I downloaded it many years ago with some software, but I totally forgot I had it on my old computer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQF0YRJbAsc

Wow, I can't believe they put 7 strays songs in the set. Should have played slow divers in full!

Street Funk wrote:Hi! I know this is an old post, but, can someone please re upload those early versions of Strays?

Here's is the link for the video of Jane's Addiction - 12-11-2003 - Hammersmith Carling Apollo, London, England. I uploaded it yesterday. I remember that I downloaded it many years ago with some software, but I totally forgot I had it on my old computer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQF0YRJbAsc

Thanks for the upload. 2003 footage is rare!

Unfortunately I didn't make it past the beginning of up the back due to those atrocious synths. What in the Fuck were they thinking? Makes the "pew pews" of today seem tolerable.

I got into Jane's when NS came out. I was in 7th grade and my friend had a shitty cassette by them. I really didn't get completely into them until about 1990. The first Lolla was amazing and the Palladium shows were insane and scary on how good they were. Janes and P4P got through college and had a screening room in my dorm of The Gift on repeat. Everybody in my Dorm section were there. Looking back at it I don't know if that would fly in college campuses these days. Everything has gotten so PC. On a side note. I remember at the Depeche Mode Violator concert at dodger stadium I saw Perry and Casey and some friends. I remember standing in line with Perry and Casey and was just amazed how cool they where. Of course I didn't say anything to them. Too many people trying to talk with them.

Noonesshocking wrote:

Street Funk wrote:Hi! I know this is an old post, but, can someone please re upload those early versions of Strays?

Here's is the link for the video of Jane's Addiction - 12-11-2003 - Hammersmith Carling Apollo, London, England. I uploaded it yesterday. I remember that I downloaded it many years ago with some software, but I totally forgot I had it on my old computer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQF0YRJbAsc

Thanks for the upload. 2003 footage is rare!

Unfortunately I didn't make it past the beginning of up the back due to those atrocious synths. What in the Fuck were they thinking? Makes the "pew pews" of today seem tolerable.

I think they sound pretty good and they seem to be having fun. They should 've stopped there...

creep wrote:yes there is an early version. i like it better. back when xiola was around some guy came on and said that he had the album early. sonny called bullshit and the guy sent it to him. sonny made the famous post and review that "you guys will fucking love this album". he shared it with dain and told him not to share it. of course dain gave it to everyone. i don't have it on my computer anymore or i would upload it. i'm sure someone has it.

Dain aka Adolf shared it with me and i wasn''t supposed to share it, but i shared it with everyone - that's actually how that went

oh - and i still have it if anybody needs it

Yep that sounds right...btw thanks again lol...oh for a moment it was fun...new Jane's excitement...it faded pretty fast...oh well

Krink wrote:

creep wrote: "you guys will fucking love this album".

Did you?

I wasn't around then ...

Mescal wrote:

Krink wrote:

creep wrote: "you guys will fucking love this album".

Did you?

I wasn't around then ...

I think it's way better than TGEA. There were quite few that loved it. It was a strange time. As KV said there was so much excitement around the band. The new years eve before the album came out the band sent people that had signed up on their site a short "happy new year" message with a little happy new year song. It was like the greatest thing ever at the time. Back then Perry could do no wrong and everything was blamed on Dave. It was a very rough time for Six7Six7.

hey...here it is. I now recognize Etty's voice as the flight attendant.