It's amazing how much better the song sounds when Perry sings the melody as it was written.
Also... THAT ECHO is everything right about how he's supposed to sound.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:57 am
by nausearockpig
I reckon that song would be loved more universally by us-types if it wasn't a single or it wasn't overplayed by the radio at the time, and probably today.
If you listen to it in the context of the album and ignore the video clip, you can hear that it's a really good song - made up of really great parts... like all other JA1.0 songs..
Yeah PF sounds fucking good there with that delay on his voice and him not trying to lounge sing it...
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:59 am
by Larry B.
Six7Six7 wrote:It's amazing how much better the song sounds when Perry sings the melody as it was written.
Also... THAT ECHO is everything right about how he's supposed to sound.
That echo/reverb was a vital part of the JA sound. When Perry came up with the brilliant idea that he didn't need it, another piece of JA's soul was destroyed.
If somebody has the individual tracks for some of the newer songs, I'd love to hear a version of, say, Underground, with proper echo in Perry's voice.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:56 am
by Bandit72
I watched a few of the Download songs off the back of that. NONE of them look interested.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:05 am
by Larry B.
And by NONE you literally mean NONE. Nobody on the stage, nobody in the audience... fucking nobody cares.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:30 am
by nausearockpig
Bandit72 wrote:I watched a few of the Download songs off the back of that.
And how was that?
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:03 am
by SR
Bandit72 wrote:I watched a few of the Download songs off the back of that. NONE of them look interested.
That was the worst cover of 3 days I have ever seen....uninspired and decayed.
Interesting to me.....the blond oozed sex and that's easy on the eyes. Cheney looks like he's been working out and going with the EA look.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:29 am
by Matz
Dave playing that solo looks about as excited as I do when I'm doing laundry or something
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:30 am
by Matz
Larry B. wrote:
Six7Six7 wrote:It's amazing how much better the song sounds when Perry sings the melody as it was written.
Also... THAT ECHO is everything right about how he's supposed to sound.
That echo/reverb was a vital part of the JA sound. When Perry came up with the brilliant idea that he didn't need it, another piece of JA's soul was destroyed.
If somebody has the individual tracks for some of the newer songs, I'd love to hear a version of, say, Underground, with proper echo in Perry's voice.
no echo pedal is gonna save that strange song. As Henry Rollins said: You can dress up a pig, but its still a pig
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:04 pm
by Bandit72
nausearockpig wrote:
Bandit72 wrote:I watched a few of the Download songs off the back of that.
And how was that?
Just to remind myself what was then and what is now.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:12 pm
by Noonesshocking
Bandit72 wrote:I watched a few of the Download songs off the back of that. NONE of them look interested.
I get that they have to drop the tunings for the vocals. I don't understand why they have now dropped the tempos on all the songs as well. Are they playing to a click now or something? I definitely don't think they were for NINJA. This band is NOT a click track band.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:50 pm
by nausearockpig
Bandit72 wrote:
nausearockpig wrote:
Bandit72 wrote:I watched a few of the Download songs off the back of that.
And how was that?
Just to remind myself what was then and what is now.
that makes me sad.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:28 pm
by Mescal
Perry's singing off key.
They're bigger in America, so they still draw crowds. In Europe no one gives a shit about a washed up 90's act.
Hence them playing at 3 in the afternoon to an uninterested festival crowd, who are only standing there to watch the next act.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:41 pm
by nausearockpig
Mescal wrote:Perry's singing off key.
They're bigger in America, so they still draw crowds. In Europe no one gives a shit about a washed up 90's act.
Hence them playing at 3 in the afternoon FOR FORTY-FIVE MINUTES to an uninterested festival crowd, who are only standing there to watch the next act.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:46 pm
by erotic cheeses
drifter wrote:a cool cat named fabrizio had this on his fb
thats from Jules Holland "later with" an absolute belter they did Janes says as well if i recall correctly - also on Jules' "no nirvana" with sonic youth, rage against, dinosaur jnr, screaming trees, etc - an absolute gem from the 90's
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:28 pm
by Matz
fuck that Jules guy has had that show for that long? It's still on I believe
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:00 pm
by Pandemonium
Matz wrote:fuck that Jules guy has had that show for that long? It's still on I believe
"Jools," guys. Not Jules as in Verne. Jools Holland. (etty!)
IMO, his show has been the best live music showcase since the early 90's. I think it used to be called Music Night for a couple years until 1992. About 10 years ago, there was a slew of compilations dvds released featured close to 20 different live performances from shows up to that time. You could spend an entire evening sifting through great clips from the show on youtube.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:16 am
by Matz
right. I actually did know it's Jools, Jools Holland in full I believe or something like that
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:48 am
by jgp
nausearockpig wrote:
Mescal wrote:Perry's singing off key.
They're bigger in America, so they still draw crowds. In Europe no one gives a shit about a washed up 90's act.
Hence them playing at 3 in the afternoon FOR FORTY-FIVE MINUTES to an uninterested festival crowd, who are only standing there to watch the next act.
If you are referring to Download, believe it or not, Jane's were actually the headline act on the Encore stage. This is a headlining performance!
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:36 am
by panicparty
Last time (I think) Jane's played Jools was when they were touring Strays in November '03. They did Just Because and one other, probably Stealing. They did JB acoustic / stripped back / unplugged style. I quite enjoyed it at the time. In hindsight, it might have been the start of the rot setting in since Perry's chosen to do something similar to so many of the classic numbers since then. Still, it was a decent performance. They also did JB the same way (acoustic, slow) when I saw them a few nights later in Nottingham.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:40 am
by CaseyContrarian
nausearockpig wrote:I reckon that song would be loved more universally by us-types if it wasn't a single or it wasn't overplayed by the radio at the time, and probably today.
If you listen to it in the context of the album and ignore the video clip, you can hear that it's a really good song - made up of really great parts... like all other JA1.0 songs..
Yeah PF sounds fucking good there with that delay on his voice and him not trying to lounge sing it...
Agree 100 percent. Man, I wish there was a full '91 set of this quality.
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:49 am
by CaseyContrarian
PEW PEW PEW
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:00 pm
by erotic cheeses
Jools had porno on his show as well don't forget
Re: Been Caught Stealing - 1990 Pro TV Master
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:51 pm
by S&M
Six7Six7 wrote:It's amazing how much better the song sounds when Perry sings the melody as it was written.
Also... THAT ECHO is everything right about how he's supposed to sound.
Yer right!!!!…But it's not just the delay...he used that detune chorus thing that the studio guy set up for him when they were recording ritual ....A step up...a step down...It gave him that really wild vocal sound that has been missing for a long time....Now with ear monitors it probably wouldn't even throw him off pitch...Never could figure out why he felt the need to prove he could sing without that swirl?...maybe some songs to mix it up but?...it worked really well
(etty!)
right. I actually did know it's Jools, Jools Holland in full I believe or something like that
If you are referring to Download, believe it or not, Jane's were actually the headline act on the Encore stage. This is a headlining performance!