Re: Janes Nominated for HOF
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:36 pm
FYI fan voting got screwed up somehow, and now everyone has until December 15th to vote instead of Dec. 5th. Kinda sucks we have to wait longer.
That's actually a great interview. Genuinely classy and substantive comments from Perry.someguy wrote:Also found this
http://www.billboard.com/articles/colum ... f-fame-bid
Dave and Perry has done a lot of press lately with NYT, rollingstone, etc. Usually you do that when you're in...
Results of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Fan Voting Are In
Tomorrow is when we hear which acts will be included in the class of 2017 for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Ahead of that, though, the Hall has released the results of the fan voting component. While the final list of inductees will be determined by the old boys club that runs the place, they offer up a sop to fans to make us think we have any say in the matter. We don’t really, of course. The masses are treated as just one single vote for each nominee. Now consider that there are over 800 of the old boys. You can see how much weight the public has.
Still, it’s interesting to see what the public would choose if they were in charge. Here are the results for this year’s fan voting.
Journey – 250,758
ELO – 210,830
Yes – 189,099
Pearl Jam – 153,458
The Cars – 149,911
Depeche Mode – 117,749
Steppenwolf – 111,001
Tupac – 100,776
The J. Geils Band – 94,061
The Zombies – 85,799
Janet Jackson – 76,556
Jane’s Addiction – 57,311
Joan Baez – 56,310
Chaka Khan – 52,702
MC5 – 41,791
Chic – 37,049
Kraftwerk – 39,744
Bad Brains – 35,448
Joe Tex – 20,172
None of the above will matter in the grand scheme of things, but I’m hoping that the old boys at the Hall will vote in Kraftwerk. Name another band that influenced post-punk, industrial, techno-pop, synth-pop, hip-hop, dance, techno…
Well, I was almost spot on. Wrong, obviously on DM v Journey. Should have known....pretty dumb, but Journey is one of two bands I consider to be among the most wretched pieces of shit ever to fumble with music. Neil Schon has an iota of cred with work with Santana, but otherwise along with Def Leppard, Journey evokes a visceral negative response from me whenever I have the misfortune of stumbling across them.SR wrote:I don't think they'll get in. PJ, DM, Tupac, Joan Baez and either Mc5 or Yes (probably Yes).
and to add to this:SR wrote:Well, I was almost spot on. Wrong, obviously on DM v Journey. Should have known....pretty dumb, but Journey is one of two bands I consider to be among the most wretched pieces of shit ever to fumble with music. Neil Schon has an iota of cred with work with Santana, but otherwise along with Def Leppard, Journey evokes a visceral negative response from me whenever I have the misfortune of stumbling across them.SR wrote:I don't think they'll get in. PJ, DM, Tupac, Joan Baez and either Mc5 or Yes (probably Yes).
Like NIN this year, I see JA being ignored next year as well.
Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists' contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. The Foundation's nominating committee selects nominees each year in the Performer category.
Significant cash flow to sign other acts by record companies.Romeo wrote:and to add to this:SR wrote:Well, I was almost spot on. Wrong, obviously on DM v Journey. Should have known....pretty dumb, but Journey is one of two bands I consider to be among the most wretched pieces of shit ever to fumble with music. Neil Schon has an iota of cred with work with Santana, but otherwise along with Def Leppard, Journey evokes a visceral negative response from me whenever I have the misfortune of stumbling across them.SR wrote:I don't think they'll get in. PJ, DM, Tupac, Joan Baez and either Mc5 or Yes (probably Yes).
Like NIN this year, I see JA being ignored next year as well.
Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists' contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. The Foundation's nominating committee selects nominees each year in the Performer category.
How exactly does Journey fit this criteria?
Lotta payola and dick sucking. I don't get why they were even nominated, much less got in. I can think of a dozen shitty white bread soft rock bands from the late 70's/early 80's like Kansas, Styx and REO Speedwagon that had more of an edge, more creativity and more sales than Journey. It's kinda ironic, but the first outdoor stadium show I ever saw was ELO and Journey at the Anaheim Stadium in 1978.Romeo wrote:Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists' contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. The Foundation's nominating committee selects nominees each year in the Performer category.
How exactly does Journey fit this criteria?
Good one, now you've put another performance art idea into Perry's head..... thanks for ruining 2017 already.....Noonesshocking wrote:Maybe if they do a Strays full album tour that'll seal the deal for next year.
The RnRHoF board is composed of mostly music industry suits headed by Jann Wenner co-founder of the HoF (and Rolling Stone rag)' music critic/gigantic douchbag Dave Marsh and Jon Landau (Springsteen's manager). I don't believe there are any actual musicians on the nominating committee. The nominating and voting process has been kept totally secret, thus insuring the ass kissing and industry cock sucking continues unabatted. However, some people on the inside have commented that artists are chosen through record label politics/lobbying, who can be the best draws for the live event and of course, personal relationships to those on the board - all issues far below the actual worthiness of possible inductees. Often, bands that are in the middle of tours or planning big reunions get chosen.bman wrote:So who really votes for the Hall anyway? Is it board members of the Hall? Or current/past Rolling Stone editors?
Nothing against ELO or Yes, I grew up on classic rock radio and songs from both of those bands certainly ended up on my mix tapes, but were they really a part of any cultural movement or era? I totally agree on Pearl Jam, and even Joan Baez with a nod to the past, but I don't understand how ELO or Yes were more relevant than Janes. Hopefully next year they get in, before Perry turns 60!
So basically, it's just utter bullshit and can't be taken seriously at all.Pandemonium wrote:The RnRHoF board is composed of mostly music industry suits headed by Jann Wenner co-founder of the HoF (and Rolling Stone rag)' music critic/gigantic douchbag Dave Marsh and Jon Landau (Springsteen's manager). I don't believe there are any actual musicians on the nominating committee. The nominating and voting process has been kept totally secret, thus insuring the ass kissing and industry cock sucking continues unabatted. However, some people on the inside have commented that artists are chosen through record label politics/lobbying, who can be the best draws for the live event and of course, personal relationships to those on the board - all issues far below the actual worthiness of possible inductees. Often, bands that are in the middle of tours or planning big reunions get chosen.bman wrote:So who really votes for the Hall anyway? Is it board members of the Hall? Or current/past Rolling Stone editors?
Nothing against ELO or Yes, I grew up on classic rock radio and songs from both of those bands certainly ended up on my mix tapes, but were they really a part of any cultural movement or era? I totally agree on Pearl Jam, and even Joan Baez with a nod to the past, but I don't understand how ELO or Yes were more relevant than Janes. Hopefully next year they get in, before Perry turns 60!