Nothing's Shocking turns 30

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#41 Post by Hype » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:18 am

i think ritual stays second to me because of Of Course and Obvious. They are weaker than anything on NS (not counting thank you boys).
I just want to note that I strongly disagree with this. Of Course is a poetic masterpiece, and I'm just a sucker for violin. Obvious was, if I recall correctly, an early contender for the source for the title of the album ("Digging Something Up", I think?), and it's a hell of a song. Lyrically it's probably the weakest song on the album, but that "Heyyyyy" ranks high in my favourite vocal bits in the entire JA corpus.

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#42 Post by clickie » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:15 am

I wasn't gonna say anything but yeah I strongly disagree with that also. Those are a couple of my favorite Jane's songs.

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#43 Post by SR » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:42 am

They are my least fave 2 on RDLH :nod:

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#44 Post by Hype » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:02 am

In order:

1. Then She Did...
2. Three Days
3. Classic Girl
4. Of Course
5. Obvious
6. Ain't No Right
7. No One's Leaving
8. Been Caught Stealing
9. Stop!

The entire B-side is near-perfect. I don't dislike any of the songs on the A side, I just think they don't compare, artistically. And I say this as someone who loves stripped down, minimalist, lo-fi shit.

My favourite version of Ain't No Right is the acoustic one that that Raw420x guy released a video of (and which I can't find anymore).

More carefully: the ordering would be different if you asked about live performances.

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#45 Post by SR » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:19 am

So interesting to see what people like and like less on these albums, including the band. I read yesterday that EA (and DN I think) hated the steel drums on Jane Says. Jerden introduced the idea and though it passed, it was liked by them. He much preferred the Roxy version. Weird. I think those drums set that song off in a really interesting direction....beautiful. EA seems to have a really narrow domain where his musical preferences are....he hates Jazz too


For RDLH:


3 Days
Then She Did
Aint No Right
No One's Leaving
Stop
Classic Girl
Stealing
Obvious
Of Course

From 3-6, it's really close...and I love the order that these songs are placed as I do on NS. When I get a chance I am going to combine the two and list in order

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#46 Post by creep » Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:48 am

The only songs that I dislike on the first three are:

Aint No Right
Had a Dad
Idiots Rule

I'm sick of Jane Says and BCS but they aren't bad songs

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#47 Post by Matz » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:49 am

you don't like Ain't no right? :neutral: I've got the cure right here:


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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#48 Post by Hype » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:29 am

SR wrote:EA hated the steel drums ...he hates Jazz too
... If I didn't know better, I'd think EA is a (musical) racist... :lol:

I found the Acoustic ANR (it's not on Youtube anymore): https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2uhtoo

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#49 Post by Stickyfingers » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:33 pm

Whores and 1% kiler songs -my fav on XXX... why they never recorded a studio version :banghead:
dont like Sympathy

NS is mountain of album. Just don't like horns on Idiots Rule, but when they played it live it's ok

RDLH ...wow. Album cover is fantastic, video were great, GIFT movie, the band at the top.
I really enjoy No one's leaving, pure speed. Didn't like BCS at the time, because too much on radio and mtv.

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#50 Post by bman » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:44 pm


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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#51 Post by Matz » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:56 pm

they should have stayed home that day

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#52 Post by intertwoven » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:38 pm

I've noticed these days when I listen to Ritual, it's a little bit of a bummer when "Classic Girl" comes on. Maybe it's partially because I know the album's almost over, but also the song just bores me a little. I'd score the rest of the songs on that album a perfect ten, and then CG like a 9-point-something. What if a Janes 1.0 version of "Kettle Whistle" was the 10th track on the album? Oh man, that's some JA-fanfic porn right there!

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#53 Post by clickie » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:03 pm

intertwoven wrote:I've noticed these days when I listen to Ritual, it's a little bit of a bummer when "Classic Girl" comes on. Maybe it's partially because I know the album's almost over, but also the song just bores me a little. I'd score the rest of the songs on that album a perfect ten, and then CG like a 9-point-something. What if a Janes 1.0 version of "Kettle Whistle" was the 10th track on the album? Oh man, that's some JA-fanfic porn right there!
Kettle Whistle the song doesn't really fit in with the overall vibe of Ritual in my opinion. As much as I love the track It might sound a little out of place.

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#54 Post by Bandit72 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:32 am

clickie wrote:Kettle Whistle the song doesn't really fit in with the overall vibe of Ritual in my opinion. As much as I love the track It might sound a little out of place.
It's weird, I have Kettle Whistle on in my car at the moment, and I always relate to that song to relapse and more importantly Flea. The re-recording of it is immemse IMO. (Controversially) I also think the Ocean Size demo is better than the final release on NS. The vocals are just killer. In fact even Maceo and So What! are brilliant.

Early JA, you can't beat it.

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#55 Post by dannyboy » Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:07 am

And the KW version of Had a Dad... mwah!

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#56 Post by trevor ayer » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:57 am

Don’t forget slow divers

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#57 Post by Stickyfingers » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:58 am

Well, I mean from Janes 86-90.

I miss Jane' Addiction album IV. around 92-93 they were still great (p4p + deconstruction), to go back in studio and record a fantastic album.

KW, Suffersome - even Whores and Chip Away with Eric -dont have the young energy, craziness, from the early days....

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#58 Post by Hokahey » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:18 pm

intertwoven wrote:I've noticed these days when I listen to Ritual, it's a little bit of a bummer when "Classic Girl" comes on. Maybe it's partially because I know the album's almost over, but also the song just bores me a little. I'd score the rest of the songs on that album a perfect ten, and then CG like a 9-point-something. What if a Janes 1.0 version of "Kettle Whistle" was the 10th track on the album? Oh man, that's some JA-fanfic porn right there!
I thought you were going somewhere else with this. It bums me out when classic girl comes on because I know that it basically signifies the end of an era for Jane's Addiction. Or you could argue the end of Jane's Addiction all together.

That final "goodnight" from Perry legit makes me sad.

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#59 Post by Six7Six7 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:22 am

Stop it. All of you.

Are you seriously going to rank your favorite songs for the 9000th time? :noclue:

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Re: Nothing's Shocking turns 30

#60 Post by Larry B. » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:44 am

Bandit72 wrote: I also think the Ocean Size demo is better than the final release on NS.
:rockon: :rockon:

I also prefer Mountain Song’s KW demo to the final release. There’s so much raw power in those two.

Finally, I’d also like to cast my vote for Obvious and Of Course being brilliant, and Ritual being their best album.

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