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Kind Heaven review

#1 Post by ESY » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:00 pm


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#2 Post by creep » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:12 pm

there you go...something positive about perry.

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#3 Post by creep » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:16 pm

this isn't a review but..

http://exclaim.ca/music/article/perry_f ... t_of_plans
"I just reached out to [guitarist] Dave [Navarro] today about having a chat with him just about the future. So I can easily see Jane's getting back together, adding to the Kind Heaven Orchestra."
to the surprise of no one...

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#4 Post by Larry B. » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:41 pm

Opening “(Red, White, and Blue) Cheerfulness” with its politically informed lyrics of “The constitution’s not dead yet” and the following “Pirate Punk Politician”’s (more politics) chunky metallic guitar thrusts, blast out like the follow-up to Jane’s first two epic discs.
Tells you a lot about the bias (or knowledge or taste) of the writer when he considers Pirate Punk Politician to be a sort of natural follow-up to Nothing’s Shocking and Ritual de lo Habitual.

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#5 Post by parklife03 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:47 pm

I'm both curious and scared :bored:

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#6 Post by Hokahey » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:54 pm

Larry B. wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:41 pm
Opening “(Red, White, and Blue) Cheerfulness” with its politically informed lyrics of “The constitution’s not dead yet” and the following “Pirate Punk Politician”’s (more politics) chunky metallic guitar thrusts, blast out like the follow-up to Jane’s first two epic discs.
Tells you a lot about the bias (or knowledge or taste) of the writer when he considers Pirate Punk Politician to be a sort of natural follow-up to Nothing’s Shocking and Ritual de lo Habitual.
For Chrissake

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#7 Post by JOEinPHX » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:37 pm

"Things went south in 1998. Money crept in, and it kind of ruins the whole vibe of everything."
1998

Band: We want to be paid.
Perry: No! Mine!


2010

Eric: Hey, let's not just do big money festivals. Let's actually record new music.
Perry: No! Money!

Jane's addiction's entire career summarized.
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#8 Post by JOEinPHX » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:39 pm

"I just reached out to [guitarist] Dave [Navarro] today about having a chat with him just about the future. So I can easily see Jane's getting back together, adding to the Kind Heaven Orchestra."
He's got Ink Master money, dude. He doesn't need to join your shitty little hobby project that exists solely to get your wife onstage. That's why he sent you his guitar tech instead. :lol:

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Re: Kind Heaven review

#9 Post by Larry B. » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:20 am

Six7Six7 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:37 pm

Jane's addiction's entire career summarized.
Remember when he refused to pay fucking Maceo Parker?

“Money crept in and ruined the vibe of everything”... it ruined *your* vibe, you fucking skinflint.

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#10 Post by bman » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:35 am

30 minutes! I think both P4P records were under 40 minutes too.

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#11 Post by wally » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:13 pm

Can we have signatures on this site? If we can I want:



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#12 Post by Hokahey » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:37 pm

Six7Six7 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:37 pm
"Things went south in 1998. Money crept in, and it kind of ruins the whole vibe of everything."
1998

Band: We want to be paid.
Perry: No! Mine!


2010

Eric: Hey, let's not just do big money festivals. Let's actually record new music.
Perry: No! Money!

Jane's addiction's entire career summarized.
No idea how true it is, but Perks buddy told me that Coachella wanted them around that time for the inaugural fest, and Perry didn't want to play it. And it was the other guys who were pissed because they were going to get paid a million each. That guy also said the other guys were ready to become a mainstream rock band "like Aerosmith" and finally earn the money they deserved. They felt like Perry was holding them back from that. That's why the direction of Panic Channel was not a surprise.

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#13 Post by Hype » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:57 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:37 pm
That guy also said the other guys were ready to become a mainstream rock band "like Aerosmith" and finally earn the money they deserved. They felt like Perry was holding them back from that. That's why the direction of Panic Channel was not a surprise.
This is also why as stupid as Perry's lyrics/songs are these days, we were right to think the other guys were just as out to lunch, but in a different way.

The only thing that kept Jane's Addiction's original sound from being lazy boring mainstream shit was Perry's (and Casey's) insane personality inflecting the music with just enough annoying, weird, unpredictable sound to go beyond the blues/rock/metal/goth that they would have sounded like regardless. Of course that's a young man's game -- it's not the craft of song-writing. Eric's musicianship and thoughtfulness can be at times exceptional, but that can only go so far. It seems that none of them have anything interesting or unique left to say. Why would they?

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#14 Post by JOEinPHX » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:06 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:37 pm
Six7Six7 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:37 pm
"Things went south in 1998. Money crept in, and it kind of ruins the whole vibe of everything."
1998

Band: We want to be paid.
Perry: No! Mine!


2010

Eric: Hey, let's not just do big money festivals. Let's actually record new music.
Perry: No! Money!

Jane's addiction's entire career summarized.
No idea how true it is, but Perks buddy told me that Coachella wanted them around that time for the inaugural fest, and Perry didn't want to play it. And it was the other guys who were pissed because they were going to get paid a million each. That guy also said the other guys were ready to become a mainstream rock band "like Aerosmith" and finally earn the money they deserved. They felt like Perry was holding them back from that. That's why the direction of Panic Channel was not a surprise.
But Perry DID play the inaugural fest. He played every Coachella till 2005.

It doesn't sound to me like Perry has any problem taking big Coachella paychecks at all. He just has a problem sharing his payday.

In fact I think he only stopped becoming an annual mainstay when Lollapalooza became a competitor in 2005. Which netted him an even larger payday.

Yes. Money crept in. Indeed.

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#15 Post by crater » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:57 pm

"Things went south in 1998. Etty crept in, and it kind of ruins the whole vibe of everything."
FTFY

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#16 Post by JOEinPHX » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:51 pm

Nailed it.

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#17 Post by Hokahey » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:38 am

Six7Six7 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:06 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:37 pm
Six7Six7 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:37 pm
"Things went south in 1998. Money crept in, and it kind of ruins the whole vibe of everything."
1998

Band: We want to be paid.
Perry: No! Mine!


2010

Eric: Hey, let's not just do big money festivals. Let's actually record new music.
Perry: No! Money!

Jane's addiction's entire career summarized.
No idea how true it is, but Perks buddy told me that Coachella wanted them around that time for the inaugural fest, and Perry didn't want to play it. And it was the other guys who were pissed because they were going to get paid a million each. That guy also said the other guys were ready to become a mainstream rock band "like Aerosmith" and finally earn the money they deserved. They felt like Perry was holding them back from that. That's why the direction of Panic Channel was not a surprise.
But Perry DID play the inaugural fest. He played every Coachella till 2005.

It doesn't sound to me like Perry has any problem taking big Coachella paychecks at all. He just has a problem sharing his payday.

In fact I think he only stopped becoming an annual mainstay when Lollapalooza became a competitor in 2005. Which netted him an even larger payday.

Yes. Money crept in. Indeed.

I don't think it matters what anyone says you will find any way possible to spin it as if Perry is a money grubber and doesn't want anyone else to make any. Why would he purposely play Coachella solo just so the other guys couldn't make any money? That's silly. Yes. Hes a shit artist now who has clearly sold out along with the rest of the band, but up until strays it did appear as if he wanted to keep Janes special where's the rest wanted to be a mainstream rock band, as evidenced by what they did the minute they got rid of him.

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Re: Kind Heaven review

#18 Post by Artemis » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:32 am

Th Consequence of Sound review wasn't so generous.

D+ rating.

"Perry Farrell’s Ambitious Kind Heaven Falls Disappointingly Short
The Jane's Addiction legend returns with a needlessly gratuitous mess of a record "

Read review in link below:

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/06/ ... q4YFmFlUBk

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#19 Post by ESY » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:40 am

More positive from across the pond:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indepe ... html%3famp

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#20 Post by SR » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:46 am

Artemis wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:32 am
Th Consequence of Sound review wasn't so generous.

D+ rating.

"Perry Farrell’s Ambitious Kind Heaven Falls Disappointingly Short
The Jane's Addiction legend returns with a needlessly gratuitous mess of a record "

Read review in link below:

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/06/ ... q4YFmFlUBk
....the gall is impressive :lol:

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#21 Post by JOEinPHX » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:34 am

Hokahey wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:38 am


I don't think it matters what anyone says you will find any way possible to spin it as if Perry is a money grubber and doesn't want anyone else to make any.
12.5%
he wanted to keep Janes special where's the rest wanted to be a mainstream rock band
The original version of Strays had extended parts of the songs that were removed in the final version.

You don't write a 6 minute song to begin with if you just want to be a mainstream rock band.

They hired the guy who did The Wall, not the guy who makes Nickelback records.

Stop trying to rewrite the history that all of us already know. Etty doesn't pay you anymore, so you don't need to cover his ass.

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#22 Post by kv » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:36 pm

Keep beating that 12.5% horse.... :deadhorse:

So much hate 6767...on the eve of your masters bday?

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#23 Post by JOEinPHX » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:34 pm

kv wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:36 pm
Keep beating that 12.5% horse.... :deadhorse:

So much hate 6767...on the eve of your masters bday?
Henry Rollins Birthday is February 13, 1961.

That was like 4 months ago dude.

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#24 Post by creep » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:04 am

so far 65 on metacritic. not too bad. :noclue:

https://www.metacritic.com/music/kind-h ... ry-farrell

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#25 Post by bman » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:48 am

I just listened to about 2 minutes of each of the songs. Sadly, Machine Girl/Pirate are the best songs on the album. Can't believe that the guy who wrote Ocean Size/Then she Did/Mnt Song came up with this record.

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