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Sterling Spoon

#1 Post by Mescal » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:17 pm

I bought the Sperling Spoon some time ago. I only bought it to have a great sounding live show of one of the greatest live bands (in their prime) on vinyl.

I actually only listened to it just now.

Members of Jane's Addiction, if you're reading this:

It sounds horrible, like a cheap bootleg. No dynamics whatsoever. What a disgrace. Making fans buy this ....

It's hard to put to words how dissapointed I am ...

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#2 Post by SR » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:42 pm

Remind me, was this the NS or RDLH shows?

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#3 Post by Hokahey » Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:57 pm

Mescal wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:17 pm
I bought the Sperling Spoon some time ago. I only bought it to have a great sounding live show of one of the greatest live bands (in their prime) on vinyl.

I actually only listened to it just now.

Members of Jane's Addiction, if you're reading this:

It sounds horrible, like a cheap bootleg. No dynamics whatsoever. What a disgrace. Making fans buy this ....

It's hard to put to words how dissapointed I am ...
Oh buddy. You really expected better? These guys could not care less about their fans.

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#4 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:23 pm

SR wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:42 pm
Remind me, was this the NS or RDLH shows?
This was an early Ritual tour show, 12/19/1990 at the Hollywood Palladium. Here's my old ticket stub from that show....

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BTW, there's a old bootleg CD I have called "Live And Insane" that arguably has better sound from the same master tape source that's missing at least one song (I haven't listened to it in literally decades).

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#5 Post by Larry B. » Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:17 pm

That’s really sad, for some reason. Like opening an expensive bottle of wine you’ve kept for years and realising it’s become vinegar.

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#6 Post by Mescal » Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:50 am

All they had to do was hire some sound guy, give him the multi tracks, let him mix and master it ...

How hard could it have been to make it a bit right? And that for the same live show they've been using since forever for all their scraping of the barrel releases.

I thought Dave was into hifi recently?

Well, I hope he puts on his own record ... IT SOUNDS LIKE CRAP

Seriously guys: You Suck! Last penny I ever spent on anything you put out

@Panda: I probably already knew this, but, so cool that you were there! Crappy recording, great show!

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#7 Post by bman » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:00 am

For a band that played a gazillion shows it's so embarrassing that the Hollywood Palladium show is the only show they continue to push out!

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#8 Post by Noonesshocking » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:41 pm

Can’t think of a band that has pissed on their legacy worse to be honest.

It really shouldn’t have been hard to keep the OG lineup together once everyone was over thirty years old. It really shouldn’t have been hard to make new music that was even somewhat worthy of the name. And most of all, it really should not be hard to put together respectable archival releases.

If I had to guess, Eric still cares but knows it’s just not worth the energy to fight for a decent sounding live show to come out when 2-3 other partners simply do not give a shit.

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#9 Post by kv » Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:47 pm

You bought a Petty era Jane's cash grab Botox special based on wax and a 30 year old boot everyone had 30 years ago?

You take the blame my friend...you knew full well by then...you got blinded by the shiny bling and old dreams...but Petty thanks you kindly! Maybe they bought those turtles with your money :slap: :pat: :hehe:

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#10 Post by Hokahey » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:42 pm

Noonesshocking wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:41 pm
Can’t think of a band that has pissed on their legacy worse to be honest.

It really shouldn’t have been hard to keep the OG lineup together once everyone was over thirty years old. It really shouldn’t have been hard to make new music that was even somewhat worthy of the name. And most of all, it really should not be hard to put together respectable archival releases.

If I had to guess, Eric still cares but knows it’s just not worth the energy to fight for a decent sounding live show to come out when 2-3 other partners simply do not give a shit.
The fact that Eric came back in 2009, after all those years, and they STILL fucked it all up is so ridiculous it's funny.

I can't take any of them very seriously any more or ever again.

jAnEs AdDiCtIoN

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#11 Post by Pandemonium » Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:09 pm

Noonesshocking wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:41 pm
Can’t think of a band that has pissed on their legacy worse to be honest.

(Snip)
Van Halen. ‘Nuff said.

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#12 Post by nausearockpig » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:30 am

What’s on it?

Edit. Never mind, googled it. Yawn.

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#13 Post by elbuitre » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:09 am

Pandemonium wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:23 pm
SR wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:42 pm
Remind me, was this the NS or RDLH shows?
This was an early Ritual tour show, 12/19/1990 at the Hollywood Palladium. Here's my old ticket stub from that show....

Image

BTW, there's a old bootleg CD I have called "Live And Insane" that arguably has better sound from the same master tape source that's missing at least one song (I haven't listened to it in literally decades).
Is the mix on Sterling Spoon different to the mix on Cabinet of Curiosities? I remember being disappointed they'd mixed it in stereo so you could only hear Eric in one ear and Dave in the other :banghead:

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#14 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:29 am

elbuitre wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:09 am
Is the mix on Sterling Spoon different to the mix on Cabinet of Curiosities? I remember being disappointed they'd mixed it in stereo so you could only hear Eric in one ear and Dave in the other :banghead:
I'll have to listen to both releases as well as the old bootleg CD again to hear differences. Something to do late night after everyone goes beddy-bye. I wouldn't be surprised if the LP set of the show on the Sterling Spoon release isn't a direct digital port of the Cabinet CD master.

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#15 Post by Mescal » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:31 am

elbuitre wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:09 am
Pandemonium wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:23 pm
SR wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:42 pm
Remind me, was this the NS or RDLH shows?
This was an early Ritual tour show, 12/19/1990 at the Hollywood Palladium. Here's my old ticket stub from that show....

Image

BTW, there's a old bootleg CD I have called "Live And Insane" that arguably has better sound from the same master tape source that's missing at least one song (I haven't listened to it in literally decades).
Is the mix on Sterling Spoon different to the mix on Cabinet of Curiosities? I remember being disappointed they'd mixed it in stereo so you could only hear Eric in one ear and Dave in the other :banghead:
Well I didn't A/B the whole show, because, well, fuck Jane's Addiction, but I A/B'd Stop

The vinyl version sounds way more bass heavy, so if you want to hear more Eric ... but you can hardly hear Dave, he's buried somewhere.

Cd Cabinet version is better balanced imo, meaning more Dave. More highs.

In both cases Dave is on the left and Eric on the right.

Vinyl just sounds muddy and compressed

But again, I only listened to Stop

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#16 Post by mockbee » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:42 am

Pandemonium wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:23 pm


BTW, there's a old bootleg CD I have called "Live And Insane" that arguably has better sound from the same master tape source that's missing at least one song (I haven't listened to it in literally decades).

I have that Silver in a basement somewhere , along with 15-20 other Jane's Silvers. No idea where, like you said last listened to it 20 years ago, but remember really good quality recording and lots if Perry banter...

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#17 Post by Mescal » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:47 pm

Listened to three days on the vinyl ....

Dave is almost non audible

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#18 Post by trevor ayer » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:01 pm

they probably transferred it to vinyl from an mp3 on ettys ipod

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#19 Post by Hokahey » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:53 pm

trevor ayer wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:01 pm
they probably transferred it to vinyl from an mp3 on ettys ipod
:lolol:

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Re: Sterling Spoon

#20 Post by Matz » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:15 am

yeah, as if that moron is a Jane's fan and ever listens to the music

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