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Regardless of what I think about Perry's recent output and what he wears on stage, the guy looks great for his age.
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He does look really good. I wish he hadn't gotten his nose job, though. That pointy schnozz was part of his crazed charm. Maybe that's when he lost it -- like when Samson got his hair cut.Deconstruction wrote:Regardless of what I think about Perry's recent output and what he wears on stage, the guy looks great for his age.
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A nose job can also change your singing voice. Might be part of the reason he can't hitCaseyContrarian wrote:He does look really good. I wish he hadn't gotten his nose job, though. That pointy schnozz was part of his crazed charm. Maybe that's when he lost it -- like when Samson got his hair cut.Deconstruction wrote:Regardless of what I think about Perry's recent output and what he wears on stage, the guy looks great for his age.
Some notes any more.... Along with age and strain of singing for 30 years
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That definitely crossed my mind.AdmitI wrote:A nose job can also change your singing voice. Might be part of the reason he can't hitCaseyContrarian wrote:He does look really good. I wish he hadn't gotten his nose job, though. That pointy schnozz was part of his crazed charm. Maybe that's when he lost it -- like when Samson got his hair cut.Deconstruction wrote:Regardless of what I think about Perry's recent output and what he wears on stage, the guy looks great for his age.
Some notes any more.... Along with age and strain of singing for 30 years
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It sounded like shit because Rose has buried himself in a bottle because he knows that his sham cover band is a joke.
As for Perry at least he seems happy and has a life outside of Jane's... no matter what any of us think, the man is not the train wreck that Axl has turned himself into
As for Perry at least he seems happy and has a life outside of Jane's... no matter what any of us think, the man is not the train wreck that Axl has turned himself into
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are people saying perry got a nose job? perry does not look great for his age. did u see the strays doc .. perry looks like don knotts .. i really cant believe that perry did not get face lift or tons of botox or something .. his face is way way tighter than strays era .. axl may have an extra chin growing but he looks at least a little more real than perry, who looks like another hollywood plastic surgery disaster .. do you all think joan rivers looks great too?
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Axl had some sort of face stretch surgery around 2005 to the point his eyes looked like slits for a few years 'til he Bluto'd out recently. Perry *does* look pretty good and certainly fit for his age although I wish he'd spend (more?) time with a vocal coach to get his voice in some sort of consistent, solid shape.trevor ayer wrote:are people saying perry got a nose job? perry does not look great for his age. did u see the strays doc .. perry looks like don knotts .. i really cant believe that perry did not get face lift or tons of botox or something .. his face is way way tighter than strays era .. axl may have an extra chin growing but he looks at least a little more real than perry, who looks like another hollywood plastic surgery disaster .. do you all think joan rivers looks great too?
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When he's not doing Liberace, Perry looks great. He looked great in his suit doing L.A. Medley.
I'll back what Pandemonium says about a vocal coach. Perry's style has been brutal on his voice. Sometimes he sounds really good, but he's wildly inconsistent. If some professional vocal training could shore things up for him, his life might be a lot easier.
I'll back what Pandemonium says about a vocal coach. Perry's style has been brutal on his voice. Sometimes he sounds really good, but he's wildly inconsistent. If some professional vocal training could shore things up for him, his life might be a lot easier.
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Axel looks terrible and sounds just as bad. I can't believe anyone actually buys tickets to see him and a band of whoever backing him up. I caught them once on the Use Your Illusion tour and while they put on a good show back then I still wished I'd see them when it was the original 5 guys.
Perry definitely looks and sounds far and above better than Axel. There's no comparison.
Perry definitely looks and sounds far and above better than Axel. There's no comparison.
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Mixed bag. First time I saw Guns n' Roses was when they opened for The Lords Of The New Church at a crappy little club in Long Beach called Fenders around '86 before they put out the first live EP. I had no idea who they were at the time. Axl was in his glam phase looking like an even gayer version of Michael Monroe (the band was hugely influenced by Hanoi Rocks at the time) and while there was a few obviously strong songs in the set, the band put on what I'd consider one of the most impressive trainwrecks of a show I'd seen up to that time. At times, no one was playing in time with each other and no one seemed to be playing in the same key. Duff was so fucked up, he passed out during the last song - just all the sudden fell back unconscious in a heap in front of his rig and the band didn't even pause to see what was up with the guy. A roadie dragged him offstage as they finished the song like it was a comedy skit.ant wrote:Axel looks terrible and sounds just as bad. I can't believe anyone actually buys tickets to see him and a band of whoever backing him up. I caught them once on the Use Your Illusion tour and while they put on a good show back then I still wished I'd see them when it was the original 5 guys.
After Appetite For Destruction came out though, they changed big time and every show I saw them do during that 2 year spread (headlining in a theater, opening for The Cult and later Aerosmith) was really solid to excellent, especially the "homecoming" stand at The Palace in Hollywood during the Christmas holiday week of '88.
The cracks started appearing when I saw them open for The Rolling Stones in late '89 when they had released the "Lies" EP and were almost as big as the Stones themselves. This was the last time I saw the original lineup. This was the show were Axl ranted through the set about drug use in the band and possibly ending the band. Before the show during the late afternoon set by Living Colour, Slash was wandering around in what appeared to be a drunken stupor in our front section on the floor until security whisked him away when a lot of fans started mobbing him.
The next time I saw was at the LA Forum in mid-Summer right before the Illusion albums (Izzy was still in the band) came out and from what I understand, it was the longest show the band ever played at 3 1/2 hours and close to 40 songs. By about the last third of the show, about half the audience had left because it was so late. Because they didn't even start until well after midnight, I remember getting home from the show as the sun was coming up. I saw them again during the Metallica/GnR tour and that was a terrible show. The band had all these backup singers, Izzy was gone, and the set dragged like nobody's business and of course, Axl was in a whiny mood. The fact they came on *after* Metallica only made it worse for them.
The last time I saw them was just before Christmas of '06 on a whim at The Universal Amphitheater and that was a surprisingly good show. Izzy joined the band for about 1/3rd of the very long set which was pretty much the entire AFD album and about 8 Illusion era tunes and a few of the better still-unreleased (at that time) Chinese Democracy tunes. Another unintentionally funny highlight was the keyboard or drum setup catching fire from the pyro during one song.
Wow, that's really cool!Pandemonium wrote:Mixed bag. First time I saw Guns n' Roses was when they opened for The Lords Of The New Church at a crappy little club in Long Beach called Fenders around '86 before they put out the first live EP. I had no idea who they were at the time. Axl was in his glam phase looking like an even gayer version of Michael Monroe (the band was hugely influenced by Hanoi Rocks at the time) and while there was a few obviously strong songs in the set, the band put on what I'd consider one of the most impressive trainwrecks of a show I'd seen up to that time. At times, no one was playing in time with each other and no one seemed to be playing in the same key. Duff was so fucked up, he passed out during the last song - just all the sudden fell back unconscious in a heap in front of his rig and the band didn't even pause to see what was up with the guy. A roadie dragged him offstage as they finished the song like it was a comedy skit.ant wrote:Axel looks terrible and sounds just as bad. I can't believe anyone actually buys tickets to see him and a band of whoever backing him up. I caught them once on the Use Your Illusion tour and while they put on a good show back then I still wished I'd see them when it was the original 5 guys.
After Appetite For Destruction came out though, they changed big time and every show I saw them do during that 2 year spread (headlining in a theater, opening for The Cult and later Aerosmith) was really solid to excellent, especially the "homecoming" stand at The Palace in Hollywood during the Christmas holiday week of '88.
The cracks started appearing when I saw them open for The Rolling Stones in late '89 when they had released the "Lies" EP and were almost as big as the Stones themselves. This was the last time I saw the original lineup. This was the show were Axl ranted through the set about drug use in the band and possibly ending the band. Before the show during the late afternoon set by Living Colour, Slash was wandering around in what appeared to be a drunken stupor in our front section on the floor until security whisked him away when a lot of fans started mobbing him.
The next time I saw was at the LA Forum in mid-Summer right before the Illusion albums (Izzy was still in the band) came out and from what I understand, it was the longest show the band ever played at 3 1/2 hours and close to 40 songs. By about the last third of the show, about half the audience had left because it was so late. Because they didn't even start until well after midnight, I remember getting home from the show as the sun was coming up. I saw them again during the Metallica/GnR tour and that was a terrible show. The band had all these backup singers, Izzy was gone, and the set dragged like nobody's business and of course, Axl was in a whiny mood. The fact they came on *after* Metallica only made it worse for them.
The last time I saw them was just before Christmas of '06 on a whim at The Universal Amphitheater and that was a surprisingly good show. Izzy joined the band for about 1/3rd of the very long set which was pretty much the entire AFD album and about 8 Illusion era tunes and a few of the better still-unreleased (at that time) Chinese Democracy tunes. Another unintentionally funny highlight was the keyboard or drum setup catching fire from the pyro during one song.
LA must've been a great place to be in the late 80's.
Wish i had seen them in a small club. Only saw the illusion tour in 93 or something.
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Give it time. They'll work it out and it will sound great in a month. They haven't played it in 20 years.Mescal wrote:Wow, they played estranged!!!!
Now, that's a treat.
Ok, it sounds like crap, but at least they played it.
I enjoy pretty much everything Guns/Axl do/does. Even the much-maligned Chinese Democracy. But "Estranged" is easily my favourite song they've ever done, and one of my favourite songs of all time.
Fuck anyone who judges me on that.