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#121 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:19 am

elbuitre wrote:
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How many groups re-capture their early form some 20-30 years later?! I can't think of one.
Killing Joke.

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#122 Post by Tyler Durden » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:40 am

elbuitre wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:31 am
How many groups re-capture their early form some 20-30 years later?! I can't think of one.
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Slowdive
Dinosaur Jr.
Blur

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#123 Post by ESY » Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:42 pm

bauhaus

I really think it depends on how humble and open Perry is to Eric's ideas. Is Perry ok w/ Eric saying to him - we/you can do better? Jane's deserves more than writing Another Soulmate and slapping a Jane's sticker on it.

Eric knows to his core what Jane's should sound like and be.

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Re: ERIC IS BACK!

#124 Post by elbuitre » Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:19 am

Tyler Durden wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:40 am
elbuitre wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:31 am
How many groups re-capture their early form some 20-30 years later?! I can't think of one.
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Slowdive
Dinosaur Jr.
Blur
I’ll give you Slowdive 😉

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#125 Post by clickie » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:11 am

Pandemonium wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:19 am
elbuitre wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:31 am

(snip)
How many groups re-capture their early form some 20-30 years later?! I can't think of one.
Killing Joke.



Panda, always trying to sneak Killing Joke into the mix. They must be the real deal.

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#126 Post by clickie » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:25 am

Since Eric is back I was going to post a smilie of him. I don't even think there is one. There's one for Guy Fieri. :martyn:

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Re: ERIC IS BACK!

#127 Post by Pandemonium » Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:47 am

ESY wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:42 pm
bauhaus

I really think it depends on how humble and open Perry is to Eric's ideas. Is Perry ok w/ Eric saying to him - we/you can do better? Jane's deserves more than writing Another Soulmate and slapping a Jane's sticker on it.

Eric knows to his core what Jane's should sound like and be.
Much as I love Bauhaus, I can't say they've maintained any sort of "recapturing of their early form" since the original 1998 reunion. They put out one basically incomplete, messy album in 2006 to date and their tours the past 25 years are basically nostalgia runs. It's a testament to the original songs and the overall musical talent of the band that they still remain a mostly great live experience but you can say that about any number of still touring 70's-80's bands. I mean, even The Cult and Iron Maiden still put out the occasional new studio album and play the new stuff when they tour.

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#128 Post by Tyler Durden » Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:55 am

elbuitre wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:19 am
Tyler Durden wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:40 am
elbuitre wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:31 am
How many groups re-capture their early form some 20-30 years later?! I can't think of one.
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Slowdive
Dinosaur Jr.
Blur
I’ll give you Slowdive 😉
It sounds like your criteria is purely based on your own personal preference…which is fine, but I’m trying to site bands that have objectively maintained their artistic integrity (whether I’m a fan or not). All of the artists I listed have received high critical praise for their latter work. In the case with Nick Cave, his recent albums have received universal critical acclaim, with scores in the high 90s on Metacritic. That’s pretty much unheard of for an artist who’s been around as long as him.

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#129 Post by clickie » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:10 pm

I was wondering that too, does it have to be a band that completely fell off for a while then made a comeback or one that maintained.

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#130 Post by Essence_Smith » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:44 pm

Soundgarden broke up for like a little over a decade and came back and didn't miss a beat. It CAN be done but Perry has gone and messed with his face and teeth & prances around looking like Don Knotts cousin from Vegas...I was with it in 97, 01 & even 2008 & I'm sorry if we were going to see them do anything even closely comparable to their glory days we would have by now :banghead: :lolol:

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#131 Post by Hokahey » Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:12 pm

Essence_Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:44 pm
Soundgarden broke up for like a little over a decade and came back and didn't miss a beat. It CAN be done but Perry has gone and messed with his face and teeth & prances around looking like Don Knotts cousin from Vegas...I was with it in 97, 01 & even 2008 & I'm sorry if we were going to see them do anything even closely comparable to their glory days we would have by now :banghead: :lolol:
Porno played a few great shows. Not sure why Jane's wouldn't be able to as well.

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#132 Post by rickpoet » Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:23 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:47 am
ESY wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:42 pm
bauhaus

I really think it depends on how humble and open Perry is to Eric's ideas. Is Perry ok w/ Eric saying to him - we/you can do better? Jane's deserves more than writing Another Soulmate and slapping a Jane's sticker on it.

Eric knows to his core what Jane's should sound like and be.
Much as I love Bauhaus, I can't say they've maintained any sort of "recapturing of their early form" since the original 1998 reunion. They put out one basically incomplete, messy album in 2006 to date and their tours the past 25 years are basically nostalgia runs. It's a testament to the original songs and the overall musical talent of the band that they still remain a mostly great live experience but you can say that about any number of still touring 70's-80's bands. I mean, even The Cult and Iron Maiden still put out the occasional new studio album and play the new stuff when they tour.
I saw Bauhaus at Cruel World Festival this past summer and by all accounts they stole the show. I've seen them a bunch of times over the last couple decades and I don't think they've been better. Granted no new music but...hooboy they were good.

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#133 Post by Essence_Smith » Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:02 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:12 pm
Essence_Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:44 pm
Soundgarden broke up for like a little over a decade and came back and didn't miss a beat. It CAN be done but Perry has gone and messed with his face and teeth & prances around looking like Don Knotts cousin from Vegas...I was with it in 97, 01 & even 2008 & I'm sorry if we were going to see them do anything even closely comparable to their glory days we would have by now :banghead: :lolol:
Porno played a few great shows. Not sure why Jane's wouldn't be able to as well.
I'm not talking about the BAND...I'm talking about Perry Lau Farrell and his antics...the man is totally gone :balls:

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#134 Post by Hokahey » Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:04 pm

Essence_Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:02 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:12 pm
Essence_Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:44 pm
Soundgarden broke up for like a little over a decade and came back and didn't miss a beat. It CAN be done but Perry has gone and messed with his face and teeth & prances around looking like Don Knotts cousin from Vegas...I was with it in 97, 01 & even 2008 & I'm sorry if we were going to see them do anything even closely comparable to their glory days we would have by now :banghead: :lolol:
Porno played a few great shows. Not sure why Jane's wouldn't be able to as well.
I'm not talking about the BAND...I'm talking about Perry Lau Farrell and his antics...the man is totally gone :balls:
Right. I'd say he did a pretty good job though at those shows. Look, I'm as down on him as anyone, but I give credit where its due.

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#135 Post by Essence_Smith » Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:15 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:04 pm
Essence_Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:02 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:12 pm
Essence_Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:44 pm
Soundgarden broke up for like a little over a decade and came back and didn't miss a beat. It CAN be done but Perry has gone and messed with his face and teeth & prances around looking like Don Knotts cousin from Vegas...I was with it in 97, 01 & even 2008 & I'm sorry if we were going to see them do anything even closely comparable to their glory days we would have by now :banghead: :lolol:
Porno played a few great shows. Not sure why Jane's wouldn't be able to as well.
I'm not talking about the BAND...I'm talking about Perry Lau Farrell and his antics...the man is totally gone :balls:
Right. I'd say he did a pretty good job though at those shows. Look, I'm as down on him as anyone, but I give credit where its due.
Yeah he did ok but the live shows aren't the thing I worry about...it's the fact that homie is COMPLETELY out of touch and has put out some mediocre at best material for years now...I don't know what the hell Kind Heaven is but my instincts are telling me stay away :jasper:

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Re: ERIC IS BACK!

#136 Post by ESY » Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:31 pm

rickpoet wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:23 pm
Pandemonium wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:47 am
ESY wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:42 pm
bauhaus

I really think it depends on how humble and open Perry is to Eric's ideas. Is Perry ok w/ Eric saying to him - we/you can do better? Jane's deserves more than writing Another Soulmate and slapping a Jane's sticker on it.

Eric knows to his core what Jane's should sound like and be.

Much as I love Bauhaus, I can't say they've maintained any sort of "recapturing of their early form" since the original 1998 reunion. They put out one basically incomplete, messy album in 2006 to date and their tours the past 25 years are basically nostalgia runs. It's a testament to the original songs and the overall musical talent of the band that they still remain a mostly great live experience but you can say that about any number of still touring 70's-80's bands. I mean, even The Cult and Iron Maiden still put out the occasional new studio album and play the new stuff when they tour.
I saw Bauhaus at Cruel World Festival this past summer and by all accounts they stole the show. I've seen them a bunch of times over the last couple decades and I don't think they've been better. Granted no new music but...hooboy they were good.
Saw them recently in LA and in SF. They were fucking amazing live. Intense. And their last album gets better with each listen. Not amazing, but fits in with their back catalogue. And their latest one off (hopefully not) single is pure bauhaus.

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#137 Post by clickie » Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:53 pm

Essence_Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:15 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:04 pm
Essence_Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:02 pm
Hokahey wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:12 pm
Essence_Smith wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:44 pm
Soundgarden broke up for like a little over a decade and came back and didn't miss a beat. It CAN be done but Perry has gone and messed with his face and teeth & prances around looking like Don Knotts cousin from Vegas...I was with it in 97, 01 & even 2008 & I'm sorry if we were going to see them do anything even closely comparable to their glory days we would have by now :banghead: :lolol:
Porno played a few great shows. Not sure why Jane's wouldn't be able to as well.
I'm not talking about the BAND...I'm talking about Perry Lau Farrell and his antics...the man is totally gone :balls:
Right. I'd say he did a pretty good job though at those shows. Look, I'm as down on him as anyone, but I give credit where its due.
Yeah he did ok but the live shows aren't the thing I worry about...it's the fact that homie is COMPLETELY out of touch and has put out some mediocre at best material for years now...I don't know what the hell Kind Heaven is but my instincts are telling me stay away :jasper:


Thats thing, Perry is out of touch so can Eric reel him back in.

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#138 Post by clickie » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:04 pm

If Queens of the Stone Age decided to come back they might be one after a hiatus

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#139 Post by nestos » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:15 pm

It is easy to be missed when you are not there.

At least Perry was around.

Can"t say the same for Eric.

I hope he'll stay long enough for us to enjoy his greatness, but I wouldn't swear it 'll happen.

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#140 Post by Hokahey » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:27 pm

Speaking of Eric - if he came back because Dave is ill, then the silence surrounding his return could make more sense. You would think they'd have made a bigger deal of it to promote the tour.

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#141 Post by Noonesshocking » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:54 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:04 pm
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Soundgarden broke up for like a little over a decade and came back and didn't miss a beat. It CAN be done but Perry has gone and messed with his face and teeth & prances around looking like Don Knotts cousin from Vegas...I was with it in 97, 01 & even 2008 & I'm sorry if we were going to see them do anything even closely comparable to their glory days we would have by now :banghead: :lolol:
Porno played a few great shows. Not sure why Jane's wouldn't be able to as well.
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I'm not talking about the BAND...I'm talking about Perry Lau Farrell and his antics...the man is totally gone :balls:
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Right. I'd say he did a pretty good job though at those shows. Look, I'm as down on him as anyone, but I give credit where its due.
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Perry at the Metro show this past July was probably the closest to old Perry I’ll ever see. I was astonished. He did nothing cringey or anything that gave off “your uncle trying to be cool vibes”. I would go so far to say he even treated that show differently from the big lolla gig they did less than 24 hours later.

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#142 Post by Tyler Durden » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:55 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:27 pm
Speaking of Eric - if he came back because Dave is ill, then the silence surrounding his return could make more sense. You would think they'd have made a bigger deal of it to promote the tour.
Totally. It kind of struck me odd from the get-go that they are using a band photo from 2009. Usually when things like this are launched, there’s a lot more spectacle and such. And the contracts are usually signed many months before…sometimes even a year or two in advance.

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#143 Post by someguy » Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:59 pm

Regarding the Soundgarden reunion- Cornell had made questionable decisions solo wise (I.e. the scream record), and it was amazing to me how he was able to just “turn it on” when he came back to the band.

I’m not that concerned about the new material- last time around they did not block out time to carve out songs, and this time they are so I really feel like we’ll get something cool. I also hope it’s a full record- I don’t just want a few songs with Eric, I want them to just go for it so they can do an album cycle and do it right. It would not surprise if they do a tour at some point and play a set with songs they didn’t do with Eric during NINJA- that’s the dream at least

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#144 Post by CaseyContrarian » Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:11 pm

Hokahey wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:27 pm
Speaking of Eric - if he came back because Dave is ill, then the silence surrounding his return could make more sense. You would think they'd have made a bigger deal of it to promote the tour.
It’s got an Occam’s razor feel for sure.

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#145 Post by clickie » Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:16 am

Pandemonium wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 10:47 am
ESY wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:42 pm
bauhaus

I really think it depends on how humble and open Perry is to Eric's ideas. Is Perry ok w/ Eric saying to him - we/you can do better? Jane's deserves more than writing Another Soulmate and slapping a Jane's sticker on it.

Eric knows to his core what Jane's should sound like and be.
Much as I love Bauhaus, I can't say they've maintained any sort of "recapturing of their early form" since the original 1998 reunion. They put out one basically incomplete, messy album in 2006 to date and their tours the past 25 years are basically nostalgia runs. It's a testament to the original songs and the overall musical talent of the band that they still remain a mostly great live experience but you can say that about any number of still touring 70's-80's bands. I mean, even The Cult and Iron Maiden still put out the occasional new studio album and play the new stuff when they tour.


Yeah Iron Maiden. Thats rock n roll at it's purest form.

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