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#151 Post by CaseyContrarian » Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:28 am

No, it’s all feel, actually. Artists “follow it.” It doesn’t make for “boring music.” Mixolyidian mode is literally why the solo in Three Days sounds the way it sounds. I’m simply explaining it in accurate terms that non-musicians should also be able to follow.

And yes, it is different.

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#152 Post by Hype » Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:25 am

CaseyContrarian wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:28 am
No, it’s all feel, actually. Artists “follow it.” It doesn’t make for “boring music.” Mixolyidian mode is literally why the solo in Three Days sounds the way it sounds. I’m simply explaining it in accurate terms that non-musicians should also be able to follow.

And yes, it is different.

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I'm only suggesting that the solo doesn't have to sound the way Dave plays it.

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#153 Post by CaseyContrarian » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:00 am

Hype wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:25 am
CaseyContrarian wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:28 am
No, it’s all feel, actually. Artists “follow it.” It doesn’t make for “boring music.” Mixolyidian mode is literally why the solo in Three Days sounds the way it sounds. I’m simply explaining it in accurate terms that non-musicians should also be able to follow.

And yes, it is different.

Thanks for playing.
I'm only suggesting that the solo doesn't have to sound the way Dave plays it.
I totally agree. My point is, if he wanted to tap into the tonal character and spirit of the song, he could literally play none of Dave’s licks and improvise in the mode. That’s theory on one level, but a guitarist of TVL’s rank should be able to do it without thinking about it. The fact that he doesn’t shows me that his guitar influences are a bit different than Dave’s.

Like I’ve said, I think using the tonal (in this case, modal) character of the original guitar parts as a leaping off point would be just fine. There’s “different” and then there’s not representing the songs in their “true nature,” lol.

I like the energy, though. Exciting.

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Re: Official Spirits On Fire tour thread

#154 Post by trevor ayer » Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:49 am

finally listened to most of the whole show and the thing with troy is .. he is either very sloppy .. perhaps because of his rediculous jumping around like an idiot .. or he is trying to jazz it up with some major notes in what is primarily a minor key soloing style by dave .. thus it sounds really off when he does .. troy does not have the chops to handle some of daves realy smooth metal shit solos nor the heavy riffage under songs like ANR .. to be fair neither do I but that is what makes dave a cut above despite 2 shitty janes records and that panic trash ..troy reminds me of kim shattuck when she sat in for pixies and was jumping around so much they fired her .. troy needs to calm down and learn the guitar parts and play them right .. old perry an eric creaking along and troy be jumping off the walls like a kangaroo .. a bit silly .. my pick .. if he were a janes fan .. would be wolfgang van halen to fill in .. even with his less polished style (compared to eddie) he can really rip it up .. was impressed with hot for teacher at the tribute .. and his i dont give a fuck style .. he could easily handle daves runs and his star power compared to troy would give janes a cool edge .. anywho .. hope troy improves as the tour progresses .. jane says with eric on guit was real nice .. sounded like when dave would play keyboard on i would for you with troy doing his 3 note droning .. perry is really really trying to hit those old notes .. not sure he can make it last this whole tour .. in fact i am sure he cant .. but maybe he finally decided to take care of his voice a bit better .. overall more enjoyable than ANY show with chaney but those ho ass dancers really gotta get off the fuckin stage already jesus ..

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Re: Official Spirits On Fire tour thread

#155 Post by Diabolik » Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:19 pm

Troy jumping and round is something I’d didn’t take into account and I actually do think it’s distracting and adding that sloppiness

Like how did they pick this guy?

Is it last guy standing in LA?

Wolfgang is an inspired choice, probably too good for the band actually. But he’d have been dope.

If you weren’t gonna mimic Dave…go weird. I’m kinda surprised it wasn’t Morello. That would have been wacky but fun

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#156 Post by Juan% » Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:46 pm

TVL is amazing. Not like Dave, no, that’s true, and super left field. But I’m digging it. It sounds scrappy, and even a little hungry again, perhaps I imagine like seeing them, prior to Dave/Perk joining? I know I will never know that, but that’s how I am looking at it. Not having Dave there is not ideal, but EA is there, and they sound kind of haphazard again, dare I say vital, given the situation. I just hope that they sound as decent by the time they get to SF.

Tom Morello would have been awful! One of the most overrated players ever, whacky I guess, but….😂

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#157 Post by CaseyContrarian » Wed Oct 05, 2022 3:26 pm

Diabolik wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:19 pm
Troy jumping and round is something I’d didn’t take into account and I actually do think it’s distracting and adding that sloppiness

Like how did they pick this guy?

Is it last guy standing in LA?

Wolfgang is an inspired choice, probably too good for the band actually. But he’d have been dope.

If you weren’t gonna mimic Dave…go weird. I’m kinda surprised it wasn’t Morello. That would have been wacky but fun
The decision was purely sartorial. Perry likes how he looks in a suit with that streak of white in his hair. You know I’m right. :cool:

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#158 Post by jptm » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:44 pm


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#159 Post by thoreau » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:20 am

jptm wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:44 pm
3rd stop; Austin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgo6LjlVc3Q
Looks like Perry quickly got rid of the grey

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#160 Post by CaseyContrarian » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:25 am

Here’s some good audio for the Dallas show. They sound great.

https://youtu.be/F-0HEh9JG8s

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#161 Post by CaseyContrarian » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:27 am

Troy is finding his groove.

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#162 Post by Hype » Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:07 am

Perry's voice on Up The Beach is perfect.

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#163 Post by Bandit72 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:25 am

Hype wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:07 am
Perry's voice on Up The Beach is perfect.
100%

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#164 Post by Bandit72 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:30 am

There's probably a handful of Jane's fans in that morgue, no one's moving. Such a shame.

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#165 Post by Hype » Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:35 am

Bandit72 wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:25 am
Hype wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:07 am
Perry's voice on Up The Beach is perfect.
100%
By the time he gets to Jane Says, it's shot, with moments of good notes. And I really dislike what they're doing to that song. It sounds like a weird karaoke version.

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#166 Post by Hokahey » Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:35 am

Hype wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:07 am
Perry's voice on Up The Beach is perfect.
God damn that sounds good. What a song. Best album opener ever?

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#167 Post by SR » Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:12 am

Wasn't Dallas the 1st night?

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#168 Post by thoreau » Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:39 am

I'll be at the Tampa show tomorrow. I think I'm the only one here that will be attending, right?

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#169 Post by thoreau » Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:40 am

Hokahey wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:35 am
Hype wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:07 am
Perry's voice on Up The Beach is perfect.
God damn that sounds good. What a song. Best album opener ever?
100% in agreement. I've argued this with friends for what feels like forever.

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#170 Post by dannyboy » Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:49 am

Bandit72 wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:30 am
There's probably a handful of Jane's fans in that morgue, no one's moving. Such a shame.
It was like that when they opened for NIN and when they played at reading festival before pulp and the strokes.

It’s a bummer when good bands are on the same bill but most of the fans are only interested in seeing one of them and insist on standing at the front, arms crossed and sucking all the vibe out of the audience.

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#171 Post by Artemis » Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:35 pm

SR wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:12 am
Wasn't Dallas the 1st night?
Yes.

1. Dallas
2. Houston
3. Austin

4 Tampa Oct 7 (thoreau is going. review pics/vids to follow. :wink: )

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#172 Post by drwintercreeper » Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:01 pm

CaseyContrarian wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:25 am
Here’s some good audio for the Dallas show. They sound great.

https://youtu.be/F-0HEh9JG8s
Yes they do. Thanks for posting the link. I am getting excited to see these cats.

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#173 Post by Hokahey » Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:34 pm

thoreau wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:20 am
jptm wrote:
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:44 pm
3rd stop; Austin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgo6LjlVc3Q
Looks like Perry quickly got rid of the grey
He did. That's interesting. I wonder what prompted the quick change.

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#174 Post by Pandemonium » Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:25 pm

They dropped Ocean Size after the first show in Dallas. Now down to a 10 song set.

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#175 Post by Easton » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:02 am

dannyboy wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:49 am
Bandit72 wrote:
Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:30 am
There's probably a handful of Jane's fans in that morgue, no one's moving. Such a shame.
It was like that when they opened for NIN and when they played at reading festival before pulp and the strokes.

It’s a bummer when good bands are on the same bill but most of the fans are only interested in seeing one of them and insist on standing at the front, arms crossed and sucking all the vibe out of the audience.
Metallica fans are the worst at that. Once saw them play at a festival and every band before them struggled to get an audience reaction. Kelly Jones of the Stereophonics even quipped something along the lines of: what the fuck is this, an audition or something?.

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