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[Pandemonium]

As far as dealing with all the fun n' games of being right up front, I've been able to handle it right up until the last couple years right up to my 50's. My last pit show was U2 last Summer, but I pretty much ran out of gas after baking in the afternoon sun and bailed out of the pit after the first 3rd of the show but still managed to viddy this:



And from the Irvine NINJA show in '09 I filmed NIN and JA's set while getting bounced around:



Your humble narrator:

[Bandit72]

The last "pit" I was in was the private one when I saw Metallica at Wembley stadium in 2007. Myself and two friends were given wristbands to get in. It was god awful. Full of 14 year olds.

[creep]

last pit i was in i had my two front teeth broken in half after my face hit the floor. i tend to avoid them now.

[Larry B.]

last pit i was in i had my two front teeth broken in half after my face hit the floor. i tend to avoid them now.

[Artemis]

I must be getting old. The thought of being in "the pit" sounds terrible to me.

Any other band, yes.

But the thought of sitting during a Jane's show just sounds like blasphemy to me. What attracted me to them was the chaos and punk attitude. When I finally got to see Perry perform at a Porno for Pyros show, in a tiny club, it felt like we were going to tear the walls down. By the time they encored with Mt. Song it felt like being in the middle of a riot. It was at the time the best night of my entire life. Had you told me then that 16 years later (oh my god im old) I'd be seeing Jane's Addiction (!!!!) in a similarly small club and would intentionally choose balcony seats over the pit I'd have laughed in your face.

I considered it, but I'd almost rather not go than not participate. It just goes against everything that got me in to this band.

I understand what you're saying. Just because I have a seat doesn't meant I'm not going to move. I will at least chair dance.

Seriously, though. That's fine for people who want to stand around and jostle in the pit, but for me it no longer holds any appeal. Not just because I have to stand for hours, but also because my view is usually blocked by somebody talll, so I don't enjoy the show as much. Anyway, participating in a show can be as simple as just being there listening and watching the band. Just because someone isn't jumping and thrashing about doesn't mean they aren't into the show.

[Artemis]

always surprised that people are still paying money to see jane's v12.36354....regardless have fun

Not all of us got to see them with Eric in a small club. I'm settling for it being my second small club show. If this was in a large venue I'd probably skip it. As it is, I'll be in the pit.

I must be getting old. The thought of being in "the pit" sounds terrible to me. I am so pleased that my $67.50 ticket is a comfortable seat and no standing around for 3 hours before the show starts.

Oh, I have never seen JA in a small venue, The venue I'm seeing them in is about 2700 capacity.

Dontcha remember when we were all heading to NINJA in Vegas and it was one of the few NINJA shows with a pit...
We all collectively (ok maybe just me & creep) hoped the NIN fans weren't too crazy because we might fall and break a hip

I still go to plenty of GA shows however I am too old to bumrush the doors to get to the rail or stand dead in the middle where they start moshing...
I'm more the saunter in when I'm good & ready after the doors open, get a drink and stand near the sound board person.

I wasn't at the vegas show. Do you have me mixed up with somebody else?

I'm the saunter, stand near the sound board person type too.

[Artemis]

I usually don't get messed with at shows, being that I'm a well-sized guy. That being said, the only demographic that usually messes with me are small feisty females that think they can bully their way in front of me.

A perfect example of this was the NINJA Tampa show. My wife, a couple of friends and I were up at the rail, stage-right, for all three sets. During the NIN set, a girl (of the drunken twat variety) decided that she wanted to get in front of me. Instead of asking, she reached around, deathgripped my manbits, and proceeded to try and pull me from my spot by my bits clawclutched in her fist. Fun times.

I'm sure I've related the incident at the 4/21/89 JAF Janes show I caught where I was right at the front of the stage in the pit and some crazy-ass bitch decided the best way to get in front of me was to bite me really fucking hard on my arm just below my shoulder. She got a taste of elbow too.

I do remember this being recounted. I've seen ladies piss on people's feet as well to gain spots. You ladies and your creativity.....

man, that's gross! thankfully, i have never seen anything like that. i wouldn't consider something like that either.

[bman]

First Janes show I went to was 8/13/91 at Waterloo Village lolla. I got the bootleg cassette a couple of weeks later. Classic moment during Pigs I believe, a drunk sounding girl goes, "Somebodys' peeing on my leg!!"...You gotta love those old audience bootlegs!

[Pandemonium]

The last "pit" I was in was the private one when I saw Metallica at Wembley stadium in 2007. Myself and two friends were given wristbands to get in. It was god awful. Full of 14 year olds.

By far the worst "pit" experience I've ever had was a Metallica show at the end of 1989 at the Long Beach arena at the beginning of the "Justice" tour and there really wasn't supposed to be any pit as it was all reserved seating (listen up here, 6767). I bought a pair of front row dead center tickets through an agency and they had the first 6 rows fenced off and you had to be wrist banded to get up there so it looked like it was going to be a hassle free show.

Everything was fine through Queensryche's set but as soon as Metallica started, the entire arena floor just went nuts and people started throwing the folding metal chairs towards the front and smashing down the fence to get closer. My buddy and I instantly got separated and we wouldn't find each other until the end of the show. I somehow got my leg stuck in-between a folding chair and because people were standing on it, I was pinned down in a laying position on the floor right up front in the crush with one leg stuck in a chair like a bear trap with people jumping and standing all around and on me. That's the closest I've ever come to outright panic at a show. By the time I got up and out of that situation 4 or 5 song into the set, I had no shirt, no shoes or socks and I was soaking wet from sweat and fuck knows what else.

As I was pushing back to get about 50 feet back from the stage where things were a bit looser, I saw this girl getting mauled by several guys who were tearing her top off like pack dogs. Me and some other guy hussled her out to the soundboard to some security guys and at that point I realized this girl was my old girlfriend's best friend.

I was so pissed I threw away nearly $500 on that night.

Another memorable pit experience was some punk show (might have been X or Agent Orange) in the early 80's at The Palace in Hollywood and some guy right up front just let loose with his bowels and shit his pants and got diarrhea all over the floor. Dude just kept on going (literally) like nothing's happening and the smell was overpowering but in the crush up front, you couldn't tell exactly where it was coming from until then people started slipping in... something. My buddy and I got outta there and went back to the bar and we're horrified to see we have shit all over our shoes and pant legs.

[Matz]

that's pretty bad. You should do a book or something with all those live rock tales you've got from the past many years. They're pretty entertaining.

[Pandemonium]

First Janes show I went to was 8/13/91 at Waterloo Village lolla. I got the bootleg cassette a couple of weeks later. Classic moment during Pigs I believe, a drunk sounding girl goes, "Somebodys' peeing on my leg!!"...You gotta love those old audience bootlegs!

One co-worker who used to go to a lot of shows with me around '83 - '85 could be a total ass at shows when he'd get drunk ........which was most shows I can recall.

He along with his brother and another friend of mine and myself saw Jimmy Page's band The Firm at the Pacific Amphitheater in Costa Mesa around '85. Mid-set, the guy's barely able to stand, he's got a cup he's spitting (and mostly missing) chewing tobacco in and at one point, he just unzips, pulls out his junk and starts pissing on the seats and legs of the couple in front of him. The rest of us cue in to what's going on, kind of spread out away from this clown and figure this is going to get brutally ugly in seconds but the couple never see or feel what's happening. So now it's kind of funny ... kind of. About 2 more songs and he does it again and this time everyone around him goes ballistic and security hauls his ass out and he gets thrown out of the venue. After the show we discover him in the back of my buddy's van in the parking lot (which he broke the window to get into) passed out with chew/spittle all over the inside of the van like the ass was some sort of tobacco-sprinkler.

[Pandemonium]

that's pretty bad. You should do a book or something with all those live rock tales you've got from the past many years. They're pretty entertaining.

"Slipping in Shit and Other Great Concert Memories"

[esqfool]

I remember at the JA Jubilee show in Chicago. Some chicks were mad they didn't get there in time to get up front, so they started biting and scratching and clawing at people's faces and shit. I lost my cool which I'm prone to do and had to have broken some chick's ankles by stomping on them as hard as I could from behind. She and her friend had interlocked arms to they could just fight through everyone and I just saw them drag her forward. I think they were all high out of their minds as well based on their general demeanor. Not proud of it, but don't go clawing my face and punching me in the head because you're late.

The only other time I lost it on someone was when I launched that motherfucker in Kansas City as Hoka mentioned. Said mofo was in the pit, so thats fine, but then he'd act like he lost his balance and fly out of the pit and hit people who were just standing including chicks. Mind you we weren't in the pit, he'd have to go about 5 feet to even touch any of us. So he did it a few times to Hoka and his wife who were about 10 feet away from me and he'd been doing it to other people as well, and then he starts to do it to me. So I'm like fuck this clown, and get ready for the next surge, and sure enough here he comes, well I crouch down and let his weight go over me and then basically jumped and threw as hard as I could, and this dude flew probably 10 feet right into the middle of the pit and was basically getting throttled. He came up and apologized afterwards.

[Warped]

Always good - and especially as a female - to have someone like esqfool around you at a show.

My worst experience was at a Soundgarden show, i guess there were only really really tall people there and i could not see anything. They did not move a single bit and i could not do anything against it. I would never bite or scratch anyone...never.
My hubby moved me a bit more to the front protecting me as good as he could but the looks from those tall dudes were scary....

[Matz]

that's pretty bad. You should do a book or something with all those live rock tales you've got from the past many years. They're pretty entertaining.

"Slipping in Shit and Other Great Concert Memories"

I'm pre ordering right now!

[zendo]

Anyone have any advice on navigating the Wellmont show in Montclair NJ. Never been to the venue and I have a GA ticket. Access to bars, good viewing spot etc...

[Hokahey]

I remember at the JA Jubilee show in Chicago. Some chicks were mad they didn't get there in time to get up front, so they started biting and scratching and clawing at people's faces and shit. I lost my cool which I'm prone to do and had to have broken some chick's ankles by stomping on them as hard as I could from behind. She and her friend had interlocked arms to they could just fight through everyone and I just saw them drag her forward. I think they were all high out of their minds as well based on their general demeanor. Not proud of it, but don't go clawing my face and punching me in the head because you're late.

The only other time I lost it on someone was when I launched that motherfucker in Kansas City as Hoka mentioned. Said mofo was in the pit, so thats fine, but then he'd act like he lost his balance and fly out of the pit and hit people who were just standing including chicks. Mind you we weren't in the pit, he'd have to go about 5 feet to even touch any of us. So he did it a few times to Hoka and his wife who were about 10 feet away from me and he'd been doing it to other people as well, and then he starts to do it to me. So I'm like fuck this clown, and get ready for the next surge, and sure enough here he comes, well I crouch down and let his weight go over me and then basically jumped and threw as hard as I could, and this dude flew probably 10 feet right into the middle of the pit and was basically getting throttled. He came up and apologized afterwards.

Yeah I couldn't remember the details. I just remember seeing this rather large gentleman looking stunned as he was flying across the floor. I do remember him apologizing now too. What a great show that was.

[Hokahey]

I must be getting old. The thought of being in "the pit" sounds terrible to me.

Any other band, yes.

But the thought of sitting during a Jane's show just sounds like blasphemy to me. What attracted me to them was the chaos and punk attitude. When I finally got to see Perry perform at a Porno for Pyros show, in a tiny club, it felt like we were going to tear the walls down. By the time they encored with Mt. Song it felt like being in the middle of a riot. It was at the time the best night of my entire life. Had you told me then that 16 years later (oh my god im old) I'd be seeing Jane's Addiction (!!!!) in a similarly small club and would intentionally choose balcony seats over the pit I'd have laughed in your face.

I considered it, but I'd almost rather not go than not participate. It just goes against everything that got me in to this band.

I understand what you're saying. Just because I have a seat doesn't meant I'm not going to move. I will at least chair dance.

Seriously, though. That's fine for people who want to stand around and jostle in the pit, but for me it no longer holds any appeal. Not just because I have to stand for hours, but also because my view is usually blocked by somebody talll, so I don't enjoy the show as much. Anyway, participating in a show can be as simple as just being there listening and watching the band. Just because someone isn't jumping and thrashing about doesn't mean they aren't into the show.

Sure. Everyone defines what creates a certain experience at a concert differently. For Jane's, I'd just feel weird not feeling the crush of the crowd as Perry screams "3-4!"

I dunno. It's probably lame now but those types of concert moments defined my teenage years. I guess I figure I better still try to have a few more of those moments before I'm the oldest guy in the front.

I'm sure with a band like Jane's though it would be surprising to find too many people much younger there.

[JOEinPHX]

note to self: become friends with esqfool

[Romeo]

first of all esqfool was a complete Gentleman in the pit in Vegas But I am sure if "asscrack man" would of gotten out of like he might have gone all postal.

Speaking of asscrack man & peeing, remember after the Janes set we heard some chick going CRAZY and security pulling her off someone....asscrack man pee'd on her.

Good times!

[Romeo]

I must be getting old. The thought of being in "the pit" sounds terrible to me.

Any other band, yes.

But the thought of sitting during a Jane's show just sounds like blasphemy to me. What attracted me to them was the chaos and punk attitude. When I finally got to see Perry perform at a Porno for Pyros show, in a tiny club, it felt like we were going to tear the walls down. By the time they encored with Mt. Song it felt like being in the middle of a riot. It was at the time the best night of my entire life. Had you told me then that 16 years later (oh my god im old) I'd be seeing Jane's Addiction (!!!!) in a similarly small club and would intentionally choose balcony seats over the pit I'd have laughed in your face.

I considered it, but I'd almost rather not go than not participate. It just goes against everything that got me in to this band.

I understand what you're saying. Just because I have a seat doesn't meant I'm not going to move. I will at least chair dance.

Seriously, though. That's fine for people who want to stand around and jostle in the pit, but for me it no longer holds any appeal. Not just because I have to stand for hours, but also because my view is usually blocked by somebody talll, so I don't enjoy the show as much. Anyway, participating in a show can be as simple as just being there listening and watching the band. Just because someone isn't jumping and thrashing about doesn't mean they aren't into the show.

Sure. Everyone defines what creates a certain experience at a concert differently. For Jane's, I'd just feel weird not feeling the crush of the crowd as Perry screams "3-4!"

I dunno. It's probably lame now but those types of concert moments defined my teenage years. I guess I figure I better still try to have a few more of those moments before I'm the oldest guy in the front.

I'm sure with a band like Jane's though it would be surprising to find too many people much younger there.

that crush of the crowd gets dangerous as we get older. And way less appealing when we go to see Janes V.115 and we all have walkers & one of Perry's kids is playing bass..

Amazingly Navarro wouldn't have aged a day coughcoughBotoxcoughcough

[Artemis]

I'm sure with a band like Jane's though it would be surprising to find too many people much younger there.

I think the average is 33+. With the exception of Hype and maybe a few on here, I don't anyone in real under the age of 30 who likes, or even knows about JA.

[Larry B.]

I'm sure with a band like Jane's though it would be surprising to find too many people much younger there.

I think the average is 33+. With the exception of Hype and maybe a few on here, I don't anyone in real under the age of 30 who likes, or even knows about JA.

Yeah, how many 30-'s are in here? Hype, JSSD, Pure Method, myself...? The Argentinian and Brazilian guys that have posted here a few times... and that's it!?

[blackula]

I'm sure with a band like Jane's though it would be surprising to find too many people much younger there.

I think the average is 33+. With the exception of Hype and maybe a few on here, I don't anyone in real under the age of 30 who likes, or even knows about JA.

I'm 33 and I think that's what's driven the bootleg collecting and traveling to see them over the years. I was too young for 1.0. I was in 7th grade for Lolla 1 and was not really allowed to go to shows yet. The first Jane's show for me was Halloween 1997. I think that 20somethings that are into music still get into RDLH and NS. The same kids buying Mars Volta and Radiohead albums are discovering Jane's. I bought Nevermind in 8th grade and read interviews with Kurt Cobain where he praised Black Flag so I naturally went out and bought the First Four Years and Damaged. You can't read anything about alternative music today that does not mention Jane's as blazing the trail for it's mainstream success. That alone will keep the classic albums somewhat relevant to newer generations. If we could just erase Superhero from existence that'd really help, too.

[Jasper]

I'm sure with a band like Jane's though it would be surprising to find too many people much younger there.

I think the average is 33+. With the exception of Hype and maybe a few on here, I don't anyone in real under the age of 30 who likes, or even knows about JA.

Yeah, how many 30-'s are in here? Hype, JSSD, Pure Method, myself...? The Argentinian and Brazilian guys that have posted here a few times... and that's it!?

Matz.
Oh, and me.