Pandemonium wrote: but the last couple seasons he's just become unlikeable on any level along with virtually the entire cast.
I like and dislike the flawed, complicated characters.
I'd probably agree with you more if the events of the last couple seasons didn't routinely stretch credibility to wtf? levels even with a show like this. The other point is that just about all the other main characters are fatally flawed and have committed serious crimes themselves. As of the end of this season, the viewer is left with no major character to totally empathize with. Think about it, the most sympathetic character this season was the Russian mob boss Isaak.Adurentibus Spina wrote:Yet again I disagree with Pandemonium about art, for some reason... (I find this intrinsically interesting... I don't think there's a wrong answer here, exactly...)
I think the past couple of seasons have developed the characters in a way that seems far more realistic, or if not realistic, at least interesting. I didn't like the characters of Dexter and Deborah originally because they both seemed "unreal".
The actors have talked about how weird it is for people to come up to them and say how much they identify with Dexter... uh... that's probably bad... Or it means that the actor has put too much of himself into the character and not enough serial killer. The directors have talked about this season really taking Dexter all the way toward the serial killer that he always has been. It's understandable that they waited this long, since as they noted at the outset, no one would watch a show about a straight up evil unlikable inhuman serial killer. As Pandemonium notices... now that they've started pushing him along that path... with Harry's Code ceasing to guide every single thing he does... he's become quite literally less "likable"... in the words of the creators, "less of a superhero". But that's great. It makes the show interesting again, imho. There were a couple of middle seasons that just seemed like rehashes of the same pattern as previous seasons. This season has been one of my favourites.
I don't "need" a character to empathize with in a show like Dexter as I think you're trying to infer.Adurentibus Spina wrote:I'm still trying to figure out why you want a character to empathize with.
‘Dexter’ Season 8 Premieres in June; Season 9 Still Possible
2 months ago by Anthony Ocasio
The wait for Dexter season 8 just got much shorter this week, when Showtime Entertainment President David Nevin revealed that the premiere will be moved up from its typical fall debut to this summer, Sunday, June 30. But don’t expect the series to end this year, because there’s still no official answer.
While speaking at the TCA this Sunday, Nevin announced that Dexter will be getting an early start this year, likely to help to bolster the series premiere of Ray Donovan, which stars Liev Schreiber as a “fixer” for the Hollywood rich and famous. The Showtime Entertainment President went on to continue not confirming whether or not this will be the final season of Dexter.
Here’s what he had to say about the possibilities of Dexter season 9:
I’m not making any announcements about when Dexter will end. Before Dexter goes on the air for their next season, there will be a clear end game in place, but I can’t talk about it. The decision of when Dexter will end is ultimately a creative decision and made on creative reasons.
If what Nevin says is true, Dexter will be coming to an end – something series showrunner Sara Colleton already confirmed during season 7: “We wanted to end it this year, but the network convinced us that it would be best to do it in two years. In some ways, this is a two-season series-ender.” In fact, it’s the two-season series-ender plan that’s allowing the show to air early without affecting production. However, Nevin isn’t the only one speaking of a possible season 9.
Last month, executive producer Scott Buck said, “I don’t have an answer to that because that’s a Showtime decision.” If Showtime is saying it’s a creative decision and Dexter producers are saying it’s Showtime’s decision, what does that mean? That it’s probably Showtime’s decision. Probably. And if so, it’s likely thanks to Homeland’s success.
Showtime has a wonderful collection of original series, most which never receive the acclaim that they deserve. Since Dexter has proven to be a great lead-in, which helps to drive more eyes to new series, it’s no surprise that they’ll want to use that to their advantage while they still can. With Dexter airing early in June, before Ray Donovan, Dexter season 9 could be ready to air in January 2014, when Showtime premieres their winter series. And since the potential ninth season would air six months later, audiences aren’t likely to complain about the storyline being extended.
Although the Dexter season 7 finale certainly set things up for a likely finale, and the newly cast characters certainly point towards an ending, fans of the series will have to wait for an official announcement on the fate of Dexter Morgan and his series.
This is interesting and i agree.chaos wrote:I have been looking forward to season 8. Based on last night's episode I think the new character, Dr. Vogel, helped to created Dexter; that is I think Dexter's father consulted her. Dexter may be an experiment for her in that she wanted/wants to see if a psychopath can be molded in a certain way.
the scene in the interrogation room with Quinn was very well acted.chaos wrote:Dr. Vogel seems manipulative and a little possessive. I wouldn't be surprised if she convinces Dexter that Debra needs to be hospitalized in order to protect his interests. Maybe the series will end with her putting Dexter in a hospital in order to hang on to her experiment/project.
I think this has been Jennifer Carpenter's best season acting wise.