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#301 Post by Bandit72 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:46 pm

Eddie Van Halen. Wow.

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#302 Post by kv » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:27 pm

been coming a long time...he fought...sorry panda!

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#303 Post by chaos » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:55 pm

^

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#304 Post by Artemis » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:55 pm

Love that pic,chaos! :lol:


RIP EVH.

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#305 Post by mockbee » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:14 pm



Love this comment:
Auronil Chatterjee
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That cigarette had a better life than me.

:lol:
RIP :cool:

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#306 Post by Larry B. » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:59 pm

Wow.

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#307 Post by Pandemonium » Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:40 pm

Crushed to hear this news. Anyone following Eddie's health the past few years knew he was struggling with cancer in some form again and when random photos and oblique updates kind of tapered off this year, I think the writing was on the wall he wasn't doing well. The news apparently in the last week or so that the cancer had spread through his body including into his brain probably was a huge psychological blow to him and his family and undoubtable contributed to his health cratering so quickly.

Van Halen was the very first live rock band I ever saw. Back in early 1977 at the Golden Bear Club in Huntington Beach about a year before the had been signed and released their first album. I've blabbered about this story enough times here so I'll skip the drawn out details.

But that night set me on the path to gobbling up as much live music as I could handle (and afford). Along with the hundreds of shows I've caught up until last year, I caught every single Van Halen tour (sometimes multiple dates the same tour) through their LA stops right up until the last tour in 2015. Between that '77 club show and a headlining Long Beach Arena show in '78, to blowing away Aerosmith in '79 at the LA Coliseum to headlining the Forum from the end of '79 onwards uninterrupted through the 5150 tour, it was like watching your friends or neighbors climb the ladder of success. The only tour I skipped was the Hagar era 1988/89 Monsters Of Rock/OU812 tour. I've seen Eddie and his band at their best (just about every show between 1979-1982) and their/his worst (the 1995 show where Eddie lost it onstage during his solo, threw down his guitar and very publicly humiliated his guitar tech).

I never looked at especially Eddie with rose colored glasses, especially from the 90's onwards when his more petty, vindictive side increasingly reared it's head. But he was definitely one musician I could ignore all that BS when listening to a VH album or especially seeing them live. I guess the point is, he was a very conflicted human being who should be remembered for the positive effect and gigantic influence his art had on so many people even long after his best years were behind him. You just have to look at the huge variety of musicians who at least met him or knew him and appreciated his talent posting tributes on Twitter and Facebook to understand what a tremendous influence and impact he had in rock guitar playing.

Of just about every band, or even singular musician, Eddie was always the consistently solid connection to my youth and much of the best times of my life. I can safely say that I wouldn't have gotten into rock music to the degree I did if I didn't catch Van Halen that night in '77.

A piece of that youth died today. R.I.P. Eddie.

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#308 Post by kv » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:28 pm

Sorry bud...I lost one of my childhood hero's last week when gale sayers died...it's a strange part of life watching them go...

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#309 Post by SR » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:25 pm

mockbee wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:14 pm


Love this comment:
Auronil Chatterjee
9 months ago
That cigarette had a better life than me.

:lol:
RIP :cool:
I have never seen anything like this. Shredding and elegance like a thousand symphonies in perfect sync. I can't stop listening. The 7-8 minute mark is Yo-Yo Ma. I have gone deep into the live EVH and it's a completely different animal than the LP's. It's so expressive and complicated, but presented in a way that anyone can appreciate it. AVH is much better than I thought as well.

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#310 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:59 pm

SR, you’ll love this:


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#311 Post by SR » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:55 am

I do. More cello! :lol: I think that's Tony Levin on bass. So good.

In my life I have really limited myself with some pretty snobby and isolating positions on music (which included JA for a short period of time). Van Halen was certainly one of them. I was kicked out of my hs after my junior year. So I landed at another school and in the first 10 minutes the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen walked through the yard. I still remember what she was wearing. Long story short, we ended up with a long and intense relationship that almost resulted in a marriage. But, there was this metal head she had dated there and he treated the drop date of 1984 as a religious experience of sorts, so I hated them both. :lol: Fun fact too, the year before I had dated a girl from that school while I was still at ND. She went on to be Christy Canyon.

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#312 Post by Mescal » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:36 am

SR wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:55 am
Fun fact too, the year before I had dated a girl from that school while I was still at ND. She went on to be Christy Canyon.
I think you're going to have to elaborate on that

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#313 Post by mockbee » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:52 am

Mescal wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:36 am
SR wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:55 am
Fun fact too, the year before I had dated a girl from that school while I was still at ND. She went on to be Christy Canyon.
I think you're going to have to elaborate on that
Why? Sounds pretty straightforward..... :noclue: :lol:

What I want to know is, what WAS the beautiful girl who you saw walking through the yard wearing......? :wink:
How much detail do you REALLY remember? I want brand names and cuffs or NO cuffs on the acid wash denim shorts.....? :lol: :wave:

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#314 Post by SR » Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:31 am

Mescal wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:36 am
SR wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:55 am
Fun fact too, the year before I had dated a girl from that school while I was still at ND. She went on to be Christy Canyon.
I think you're going to have to elaborate on that
Yeah, so there's a lot of stories. I went to an all boys hs, so there was a lot of reaching out from us to other schools and a lot of reaching in as well. I don't recall how I met Missy, but we dated briefly, maybe a few months. I became really close with her best friend who ultimately told me I was being played as she really couldn't be bothered by emotions. :lol:

Her mom LOVED me. She couldn't stand the other guys who came around her house. I was always respectful...pleases/thank you's/addressed her as Mrs. Barz*****, etc. Missy spent most of her time in Hollywood and had already been introduced to the underground porn game. Missy used to crank my mom with creepy "your son has a big cock" bs, and she tp'd my house. :love: After it was all said and done, and once I arrived at her school for my senior year, there was a pretty dramatic event early in the school year that I'll never forget. Her mom and dad swooped into the parking lot and pulled into the spot right next to hers. Dad got out of the Jag and got into her car and mom jumped into the jags driver seat and they both drove away :lol: . Anyways, once the word got out it was pretty shocking to us all. Missy never looked back.

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#315 Post by Matz » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:59 am

SR wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:25 pm
I have never seen anything like this. Shredding and elegance like a thousand symphonies in perfect sync. I can't stop listening. The 7-8 minute mark is Yo-Yo Ma. I have gone deep into the live EVH and it's a completely different animal than the LP's. It's so expressive and complicated, but presented in a way that anyone can appreciate it.
:confused: :confused:


The album version of Eruption is much more 'complicated' (detailed) than the live versions and very, very fuckin expressive. In fact I usually refer to it as the most powerful statement ever made on an electric guitar, either that or Voodoo child (Sligth return) (The album version of that is by far the coolest version of that song too).

Eddie never played it better than on the album he never came close to matching it live. The album version is stunning, perfectly executed. Live he'd often even skip the 'shred part' (the one leading into the tapping) and the rest he'd play pretty sloppy. The album version is kind of a miracle I think, same with Voodoo child. Eddie and Hendrix tapped (no pun intended) into some divine force or something when they played those pieces

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#316 Post by Mescal » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:30 am

Eeeuuhhhm


It was also played in a studio?

It could have been tampered with/played 10.000 times/cut and paste etc

Some things are just very difficult to replicatie live

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#317 Post by Matz » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:41 am

he didn't play it 10000 times, even if he did, it's still amazing. I don't know for sure, but I think Eruption is the first take of it and I'll bet anything it wasn''t spliced together. VH always cut their songs live and never played them more than 2-3 times

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#318 Post by trevor ayer » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:16 pm

dont know that much about eruption but i dont think i have ever heard a remotely bad version of voodoo chile .. at least not when hendrix was doing it

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