PSA - Mortgage Rates are DOWN

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Re: PSA - Mortgage Rates are DOWN

#21 Post by mockbee » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:47 am

Hype wrote:
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I do love BBQ and forests and Mark Twain, though. :lol:
Mark Twain is dead....


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#22 Post by Hokahey » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:48 am

Hype wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:21 am
Hokahey wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:25 am
Hype wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:23 am
backwoods Missouri.
I've lived in every region of the United States. I've traveled to most every major city. Missouri is like every other state that is not deep south. It's rural areas are red and its urban centers are very liberal.
I believe you -- this is true everywhere, not just the US. But there are rough sociocultural/economic indicators that help determine things like livability, cost of living, etc. Sometimes it could just be how long a place has had a certain governor, or mayor, or whatever.

I do love BBQ and forests and Mark Twain, though. :lol:
I take meeting sometimes with members of the St. Louis Federal Reserve.

There is economic data that is less than encouraging, but there are also very encouraging developments like the Cortex in Midtown that is flourishing with Tech startups.

And due to things like having one of the largest urban parks in America, filled with free museums, zoo's and stunning architecture, St Louis is frequently being listed as a trendy place to visit and live now. There's definitely a buzz and sense of growth occurring that I firmly believe will reverse some of the troubling economic data.

Also, the crime data is skewed because we are one of the few cities that features a separate city and county. So the crime rate per segment of the population statistic is apples and oranges compared to other cities.

The food scene is booming. There has been a major revitalization over the past decade and you are seeing some of the best chefs in America operating here. One of the top 10 pastry chefs from one list or another just opened up shop down the street from me.

And working in the housing Industry I can tell you that inventory has become extremely tight and home prices are surging. That is emblematic of a larger Trend across the United States but St Louis County in particular is approaching having more buyers than available inventory.

Point being, it's not just Ferguson and BBQ.

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#23 Post by mockbee » Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:02 am

Yeah, you got the Wainwright Buildimg!

:banana:

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Honestly I love Sullivans stuff and this would be a top sight for me.

That and the Cahokia Mounds....

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#24 Post by Hype » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:05 am

mockbee wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:47 am
Hype wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:21 am


I do love BBQ and forests and Mark Twain, though. :lol:
Mark Twain is dead....


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:lol:
:lol: Yeah, but: https://www.fs.usda.gov/mtnf

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#25 Post by mockbee » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:29 am

Hype wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:05 am
mockbee wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:47 am
Hype wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:21 am


I do love BBQ and forests and Mark Twain, though. :lol:
Mark Twain is dead....


:noclue:






:lol:
:lol: Yeah, but: https://www.fs.usda.gov/mtnf
That'd be cool. Would definitely be in my top 5 spots to check out.
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#26 Post by clickie » Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:19 am

creep wrote:
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Hype wrote:
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https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2933 ... 8036_zpid/ ! 3 bed, 3 bath, nearly 3,000 sq. ft, for 415k.
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The one thing I hate about houses in the Midwest is that no one has a fence around their house. Do you just let your dog run loose?Do your neighbors stare at you while you barbecue in your backyard? Out west every home with a normal lot has a fence around it.
It's true in the Chicago suburbs. The whole neighborhood will put up a fight when you try adding a fence. It's kind of an eyesore. Dogs just roam around everywhere doing their business 3 or 4 houses down, it definitely created some tension. I had the invisible/underground fence that shocked the dog when they got too close.

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#27 Post by clickie » Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:37 am

As far as caring about people staring at you, that just sounds like paranoia

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#28 Post by mockbee » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:27 am

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As far as caring about people staring at you, that just sounds like paranoia
We're pretty private in the West. People keep to their own business for the most part. Without fences we would feel like we were having a BBQ in YOUR yard, and that's why you would stare.

It was funny when I moved out to NYC for the first time (first time east of the Mississippi River for me) and I would switch my car from one side of the street to the other in East Harlem, a whole host of people (neighbors....? : :hehe: ) would come out and critique my parking job. :lol:

At first it really pissed me off, but then I realized it wasn't me, it's just what they did. Then I liked them.

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#29 Post by clickie » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:00 pm

It sounds like you lived a lot of places

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#30 Post by mockbee » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:05 pm

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It sounds like you lived a lot of places
Eugene
Portland
New York City
San Francisco

For at least more than 2 years each.
Some other places as well, but for shorter periods.

Not that many, but more than a lot of people I know.

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#31 Post by clickie » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:30 pm

mockbee wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:02 am
Yeah, you got the Wainwright Buildimg!

:banana:

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Honestly I love Sullivans stuff and this would be a top sight for me.

That and the Cahokia Mounds....
Reminds me of that huge Chicago building
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#32 Post by clickie » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:38 pm

I mean Chicago does have some cool architecture

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#33 Post by clickie » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:55 pm

Jane's played here back when they meant something
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#34 Post by clickie » Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:58 pm

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#35 Post by mockbee » Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:53 am

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I mean Chicago does have some cool architecture
That's an understatement! :tiphat:

Love Chicago architecture and history.

Not so much the food...
You guys have to mound cheese on everything. :hehe:
Now I do love cheese, but it seems to be a volume thing with you guys, like what you do to a hot dog.... :no:

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#36 Post by mockbee » Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:07 am

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#37 Post by mockbee » Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:12 am

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And more than FLW and individual buildings the overall stature of your urban vistas is amazing.
Unmatched, except of course by NYC.

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#38 Post by mockbee » Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:38 am

clickie wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:30 pm
mockbee wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:02 am
Yeah, you got the Wainwright Buildimg!

:banana:

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Honestly I love Sullivans stuff and this would be a top sight for me.

That and the Cahokia Mounds....
Reminds me of that huge Chicago building
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The Merchandise Mart. Art deco 1930's very "Chicago". This came 40 years after the Wainwright Building. Actually Sullivan had his office in Chicago.

The Waightwright was the "first" skyscraper with this form. Built in 1890, the first steel frame terra cotta facade, open layout. The mother of art deco skyscrapers that you see all over Chicago.

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#39 Post by clickie » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:59 am

I've never been in these buildings, I guess its parking until you get to that one level
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#40 Post by clickie » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:21 am

What's the history on this slanty eyed bastard?
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#41 Post by mockbee » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:47 am

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What's the history on this slanty eyed bastard?
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That roof was meant to be a landing pad for Daley back in the day. The contract got pulled for the union steelworkers halfway through the job, so they quit. They only had budget to finish one side so they made it into a diamond shape.

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#42 Post by clickie » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:29 am

That's interesting

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#43 Post by mockbee » Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:49 pm

Don't tell anybody that though.

It's complete bunk.

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#44 Post by Juana » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:01 pm

Not really worried about mortgage rates but what I am worried about are property taxes out here with a lot of people moving here. Don't mind the growth and they're nothing like the house I was left in CA but fuck a 150% increase in 2 years is insane to me.

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#45 Post by mockbee » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:16 am

Wow. Just locked 2.50% APR for a 30 yr fixed refinance. Knocked off about a percent and a half! :banana:

Too bad I don't owe more on the mortgage.... :lol:


I was lazy this summer and never got around to refinancing. Procrastination pays off.... :hehe:

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