Presidential debates: Sept 26, Oct 9, Oct 19

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#51 Post by chaos » Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:43 pm

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... -to-host-a
September 15, 2016, 09:00 pm
Trump says he doesn't want Anderson Cooper to moderate debate
By Paulina Firozi

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said he doesn't want Anderson Cooper to moderate a presidential debate because he would be unfair.

In a new interview with Washington Post reporter Robert Costa, Trump made an “unprompted" comment about the CNN host.

“I don’t think Anderson Cooper should be a moderator, because Anderson Cooper works for CNN and over the last couple of days, I’ve seen how Anderson Cooper behaves,” Trump said. “He’ll be very biased, very biased. I don’t think he should be a moderator.”
Trump said he would participate in the debate but accused CNN of having a bias in favor of his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

"CNN is the Clinton News Network and Anderson Cooper, I don’t think he can be fair,” Trump added.

The moderators for the three presidential debates were revealed by the non-partisan Commission on Presidential Debates earlier this month.

Cooper and ABC's Martha Raddatz will team up to cover the town hall-style debate on Oct. 9. NBC's Lester Holt will moderate the first debate, on Sept. 26, and Fox News’s Chris Wallace will host the third debate, on Oct 19.
I guess he would prefer Matt Lauer. :eyes:

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#52 Post by kv » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:32 pm

SR wrote:From Robert reich

4 reasons I’m starting to get worried:

1. The polls are narrowing: Five weeks ago, Hillary Clinton was up by 8 points. Now she’s up by 1.8 points, according to the RealClearPolitics average of the national polls. That same average of national polls shows Trump has now pulled ahead in Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and Arizona—four crucial battleground states.

2. Clinton's campaign spending doesn’t seem to be working: During this period, Clinton has been outspending Trump by a margin of 10-to-1 on TV ads.

3. Trump supporters are more enthusiastic: A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that 93% of Trump supporters say they are absolutely certain to vote. But only about 80% of Hillary Clinton's supporters are that committed to turning out.

4. There are lots of them: Trump got the most primary votes of any Republican presidential candidate in history. Meanwhile, despite the engaging and substantive contest between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, turnout for Democrats was down in the primary compared to 2008.

5. Authoritarian populism is breaking out all over the world: Yesterday, polling guru Nate Silver said the race has become “highly competitive,” and noted the race has “echoes of Brexit,” in which a right-wing populist surge forced Britain out of the European Union.

Maybe I'm being unduly alarmist, but, frankly, I don't think the Democratic Party is being alarmist enough. Trump could win.

What do you think?
here is my thought...i just use a cell phone as do most my age or younger...are you answering unknown numbers? i bet not...most polls are gonna be unknown numbers but the old guard are all on landlines and answer their phones

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#53 Post by JOEinPHX » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:17 pm

It's basically a 50/50 race with old people who have landlines.

But I can't imagine that young people with cellphones are going to vote for a fucking racist piece of shit like Trump.

According to polls, Romney had a 7 point lead on Obama 2 weeks before the election, and he got his ass handed to him.

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#54 Post by mockbee » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:20 pm

Obama had a huge groundswell of followers, saw him as a saint.

Nobody gives a damn about Hillary, maybe just that she isn't Trump.

I don't think young people are showing up for this one. They typically don't, and there is no evidence that they will.

Maybe this seems normal to them, brought up on reality tv, not too concerned, voting for Stein or staying home.



Has anyone even seen a Hillary lawn sign?

I've seen maybe one. And about 4 Trump signs.

Typically there are hundreds of them around.

This is a very strange election. :crazy:



The media is falling apart.

NYTimes is just one long diatribe of anger, sorrow and confusion directed towards one man. All understandable reactions, but anyone reading the Times is not ever voting for Trump. People need information. They had one feature a couple days ago about appalachian voters and that they are just looking for a hero and somebody who is completely different, strong and says what they want to hear. That's insightful, not the 100th article trying to convince liberals that he is a bigot. There is nothing to be learned there. You either think he is one or that he is just playing one on TV, end of story.
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#55 Post by SR » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:23 am

kv wrote:
SR wrote:From Robert reich

4 reasons I’m starting to get worried:

1. The polls are narrowing: Five weeks ago, Hillary Clinton was up by 8 points. Now she’s up by 1.8 points, according to the RealClearPolitics average of the national polls. That same average of national polls shows Trump has now pulled ahead in Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and Arizona—four crucial battleground states.

2. Clinton's campaign spending doesn’t seem to be working: During this period, Clinton has been outspending Trump by a margin of 10-to-1 on TV ads.

3. Trump supporters are more enthusiastic: A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that 93% of Trump supporters say they are absolutely certain to vote. But only about 80% of Hillary Clinton's supporters are that committed to turning out.

4. There are lots of them: Trump got the most primary votes of any Republican presidential candidate in history. Meanwhile, despite the engaging and substantive contest between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, turnout for Democrats was down in the primary compared to 2008.

5. Authoritarian populism is breaking out all over the world: Yesterday, polling guru Nate Silver said the race has become “highly competitive,” and noted the race has “echoes of Brexit,” in which a right-wing populist surge forced Britain out of the European Union.

Maybe I'm being unduly alarmist, but, frankly, I don't think the Democratic Party is being alarmist enough. Trump could win.

What do you think?
here is my thought...i just use a cell phone as do most my age or younger...are you answering unknown numbers? i bet not...most polls are gonna be unknown numbers but the old guard are all on landlines and answer their phones
Interesting point, but I can't believe that hasn't been thought through. It hasn't occurred to me to ask how polls are conducted. :lol: They have been so reliable for so long I view them as the sun appears to me every morning. It just is. They just are.

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#56 Post by SR » Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:30 am

mockbee wrote:Obama had a huge groundswell of followers, saw him as a saint.

Nobody gives a damn about Hillary, maybe just that she isn't Trump.

I don't think young people are showing up for this one. They typically don't, and there is no evidence that they will.

Maybe this seems normal to them, brought up on reality tv, not too concerned, voting for Stein or staying home.



Has anyone even seen a Hillary lawn sign?

I've seen maybe one. And about 4 Trump signs.

Typically there are hundreds of them around.

This is a very strange election. :crazy:



The media is falling apart.

NYTimes is just one long diatribe of anger, sorrow and confusion directed towards one man. All understandable reactions, but anyone reading the Times is not ever voting for Trump. People need information. They had one feature a couple days ago about appalachian voters and that they are just looking for a hero and somebody who is completely different, strong and says what they want to hear. That's insightful, not the 100th article trying to convince liberals that he is a bigot. There is nothing to be learned there. You either think he is one or that he is just playing one on TV, end of story.
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Good points as well.

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#57 Post by Hype » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:38 am

Even if young people are polled... they're also probably more likely to SAY they're voting such and such a way, and then not even vote. :confused:

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#58 Post by mockbee » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:12 pm

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Can't say I know what America will embrace Nov. 8........ but I have a suspicion. :tiphat:

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#59 Post by Pandemonium » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:50 am

U2 gives their 2 cents on Trump in Las Vegas last Friday (the money that rained down had Trump's face on the bills):


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#60 Post by SR » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:00 am

Odd to see Larry on the rear kit. Maybe he has 2 now? That would be odd too; he's a minimalist drummer.

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#61 Post by SR » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:02 am

Isn't this in your backyard Romeo? Going? Running away?

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#62 Post by Artemis » Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:06 pm

5 more hours... :waits:
I just heard on the news that 100 million people are expected to watch in the US. There will be many millions more worldwide too.

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#63 Post by SR » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:22 pm

Yeah, I don't know what to expect from this but a lot is at stake. I remember Obama getting crushed by Romney and I got nervous; This one's terrifying.

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#64 Post by Artemis » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:02 pm

I think if HIlary stays on the high road and doesn't allow Cheeto Man to get under her skin, she'll do well.

For the next two debates I'm going to go to the Democrats Abroad (Toronto group) viewing party at a pub that's not too far from my place. It'll be fun to watch these debates with Americans. :lol:

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#65 Post by SR » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:33 pm

That's my fear....that even if she does well, it won't matter.

Beware of some muricans too, especially with alcohol and firearms. :hehe: I'd have a drink too, but that wouldn't end well. :lol:

Enjoy. :wave:

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#66 Post by blackcoffee » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:21 pm

SR wrote:That's my fear....that even if she does well, it won't matter.

Beware of some muricans too, especially with alcohol and firearms. :hehe: I'd have a drink too, but that wouldn't end well. :lol:

Enjoy. :wave:
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#67 Post by SR » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:24 pm

:rockon: :thumb: :tiphat:

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#68 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:45 pm

Ugh, this is the best we can come up with as candidates for leader of the free world? I had to stop watching, both are coming off as their own worst stereotypes.

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#69 Post by SR » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:08 pm

Hill's in trouble

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#70 Post by creep » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:44 pm

trump did better than i thought but the longer it went the worse he did.

hillary was her average self. did seem more presidential.

let's get gary johnson in there.

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#71 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:24 pm

creep wrote:let's get gary johnson in there.
"What's an Aleppo?"

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#72 Post by chaos » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:24 pm

creep wrote: hillary .... did seem more presidential.
Considering who she was "debating" that is an understatement.

Although Trump toned it down his bombastic, despicable self shined through. He thinks not paying his taxes makes him "smart," and he is proud that he dragged out the housing discrimination suit against him without exhausting much of his own resources (while the feds exhausted much of theirs). I loved how Trump interrupted Clinton (when she pointed out that he was rooting for the mortgage/housing crisis in order to buy property and turn a profit) and said "That's called business." Well I'm sure that swayed over some voters. :lol:

His inarticulate rambles were amusing. When he described a judge as a "very against police judge" I spit up my drink laughing. Good for Lester Holt letting him defensibly ramble on nonsensically for several minutes about why he dropped/did not drop his birther stance and how he did not support the Iraq war. Trump demonstrated he can be in charge of his own train wreck. :lol:

Whatever people may think of Hillary, I just do not understand how/why people would be more comfortable with Trump as President.

I was curious as to why Trump and his family did not mingle in the audience as the Clintons did after the debate ended. Then again, they looked uncomfortable and didn't seem to know what they should do.
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#73 Post by creep » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:28 pm

Pandemonium wrote:
creep wrote:let's get gary johnson in there.
"What's an Aleppo?"
i've never heard of the place either until it was reported that he didn't know. :noclue:

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#74 Post by SR » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:40 pm

Trump has kissed women, millennials, minorities, and status quo moderates good-bye a long time ago. It doesn't matter if he continues to alienate them. Not one bit. His goal is to continue to solidify his rabid base and win new Waco nuts who would never normally vote anyways. He did very well to that end.....and she did better. Her deep policy driven rhetoric just screams More of the Same to people who either can't or wont look at rather complicated particulars in foreign and domestic policy; they see more bloodshed and Muslim names.

Those who have already rsvp'd to the Clinton bash are absolutely meaningless and are embracing increasingly rising levels of cognitive dissonance. I think they are completely missing the point here. I think she's in trouble.

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#75 Post by Pandemonium » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:44 pm

creep wrote:
Pandemonium wrote:
creep wrote:let's get gary johnson in there.
"What's an Aleppo?"
i've never heard of the place either until it was reported that he didn't know. :noclue:
I'm no Middle East foreign affairs expert, but once that photo of the little boy who survived the bombing in his neighborhood hit the news, that city and the impact of the Syrian civil war was pretty much hammered into my skull.

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