'Bandit72 wrote:Stephen's been posting some 30 second clips of him on Twitter. I'd much rather watch those to be honest.
clips of Dave?! If you have time please post a link, I can't find 'em
'Bandit72 wrote:Stephen's been posting some 30 second clips of him on Twitter. I'd much rather watch those to be honest.
Sorry no I should have said clips of 'himself'!Matz wrote:'Bandit72 wrote:Stephen's been posting some 30 second clips of him on Twitter. I'd much rather watch those to be honest.
clips of Dave?! If you have time please post a link, I can't find 'em
Uhmm, I think Slash can easily top this.Matz wrote:MicrowavedGerbil wrote: he suckz at shredding.
Very few guitar players could improvise on this level on the spot! Listen to how it flows, how perfectly played it is, how technically difficult some of it is and notice, that it's not just mindless scale'y nonsense up and down the neck. There's an actual "story" there. Ask a guy like Satriani or Slash to top this and they couldn't do it, certainly not on the spot like Dave does here, and perhaps not even if they had a day to do it.
And of course, if you think you can top it feel free to upload something. Should be easy for someone like you who thinks Dave sucks, right? Put your money where your mouth is
Hype wrote:
I'm pretty sure Mustaine is a much better guitar-player than Navarro. But I like Dave.
Dave doesn't even know how many frets his guitars have.
"Some of the stuff I come up with in the studio -- I can't do it live!"
Thank jebus.Hokahey wrote:I guess this band is now just relegated to playing a festival or two each year?
For the love of Krishna, do not click on that video and go to 17:30, when Perry messes up the entrance and rhythm of his lyrics on the beginning of Ain't No Right.Bandit72 wrote:
When did I say he can't play? I said he isn't very good off the spot..yes there are occasions where he pulled off free styling but other than that he isn't very good at improvising his solos live. I think he should stick to playing his solos studio version.Six7Six7 wrote:Things I have learned from MicrowavedGerbil:
1. We don't know how to properly post on message boards.
2. Dave Navarro can't play guitar.
Or to 55:25 when he misses his cue to come in during Whores.Larry B. wrote:For the love of Krishna, do not click on that video and go to 17:30, when Perry messes up the entrance and rhythm of his lyrics on the beginning of Ain't No Right.Bandit72 wrote:
SNIPMicrowavedGerbil wrote:When did I say he can't play?Six7Six7 wrote:Things I have learned from MicrowavedGerbil:
1. We don't know how to properly post on message boards.
2. Dave Navarro can't play guitar.
MicrowavedGerbil wrote:he isn't very good at improvising his solos live.
I agree. You're very opinionated.MicrowavedGerbil wrote:Things I've learned from six7six7: opinionated material hurts your little bottom.
So criticizing someone on a single aspect of their playing is the same as dismissing their talent as a whole?Six7Six7 wrote:SNIPMicrowavedGerbil wrote:When did I say he can't play?Six7Six7 wrote:Things I have learned from MicrowavedGerbil:
1. We don't know how to properly post on message boards.
2. Dave Navarro can't play guitar.
MicrowavedGerbil wrote:he isn't very good at improvising his solos live.
I'm not. It just feels like you're making me out to be so I'll play your game. it's just easy to grind your gears.Six7Six7 wrote:I agree. You're very opinionated.MicrowavedGerbil wrote:Things I've learned from six7six7: opinionated material hurts your little bottom.
Noonesshocking wrote:Dave is great. I don't think the criticism of him ITT is warranted. A.) He contributed plenty to writing in 1.0, even though a few songs were written before he joined. B.) He can fucking play. This is good improv from him imo. He hits a bum notes at one point but plays it off well, like a GOOD player knows how to do.
That said, he does have a bag of tricks. You can usually pick out certain licks and runs that he busts out. Something descending ala whores or something out of the pentatonic box reminiscent of three days. Can't tell if it's mixolydian or Dorian. Steve has certain beats that are in his bag of tricks here. Namely the superhero type groove.
So you actually watched the whole thing?creep wrote:Or to 55:25 when he misses his cue to come in during Whores.Larry B. wrote:For the love of Krishna, do not click on that video and go to 17:30, when Perry messes up the entrance and rhythm of his lyrics on the beginning of Ain't No Right.Bandit72 wrote:
You know when you watch live videos and sing along in your head and it throws you off when the vocalist doesn't hit the note correctly? Perry fucking FarrellMescal wrote:So you actually watched the whole thing?creep wrote:Or to 55:25 when he misses his cue to come in during Whores.Larry B. wrote:For the love of Krishna, do not click on that video and go to 17:30, when Perry messes up the entrance and rhythm of his lyrics on the beginning of Ain't No Right.Bandit72 wrote:
I got to the start of Just Because then stopped and watched the drum break for three days and the mistakes Larry and Creep pointed out. That's it.Mescal wrote:So you actually watched the whole thing?creep wrote:Or to 55:25 when he misses his cue to come in during Whores.Larry B. wrote:For the love of Krishna, do not click on that video and go to 17:30, when Perry messes up the entrance and rhythm of his lyrics on the beginning of Ain't No Right.Bandit72 wrote:
That's just because music isn't all about technique, knowledge of theory, skill, and proficiency. Obviously professional musicians need some level of those things, but good music is also about originality, creativity, and having your own voice. But, it's not just about that, either. Music has to resonate with someone else, for whatever reason. Dave is inconsistent in just about all those categories (who isn't?), but his highest peaks are really fucking high. There are moments where his guitar tone, the feeling in it, it's as good as B.B. King. But a lot of his output since Deconstruction has been down around the level of straightforward radio-rock studio-musician shit. The guy can play, but he can't write a song to save his life.MicrowavedGerbil wrote:I told you I can see the guitar thru his eyes. I believe me and him have a lot in common..we suck but we come up with some dope shit sometimes.