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Re: Donald Trump running for President.

#651 Post by Hype » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:05 am

Yeah, so the view I currently hold is basically that the issues with Trump and Russia will get hammered out by Mueller and the others involved there, so those are really the least of our worries.

I'm more concerned with understanding the people who are manipulated, misled, and who support things that are not just not in their interests, but which can be shown to be actively harmful to themselves and others that they clearly care about (or ought to care about). As a corollary, I'm also concerned with trying to understand how, if we do understand at least some of the first problem, how we can potentially make people less polarized, less afraid, less stupid, and less angry.

But these are massive problems, and it may be too late. It's just very unclear. I mean, even the Obama era was not an era of progressive politics. It was an era of divisiveness and centrist attempts to avoid a complete shitshow -- not Obama's fault, of course, except insofar as he himself was not a very progressive candidate in the first place.

I'm also not sure how the United States could re-liberalize while there are areas of Alabama where there is widespread retardation caused by hookworms. :neutral:

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#652 Post by SR » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:01 pm

Yes, a better understanding is a big deal.

As for Russia, it's not the least of my worries moving forward. This isn't the first time and inasmuch as Mueller will likely get to the bottom of this regimes involvement, it has really nothing to do with the impact it had. I think it was significant....any success is. Further, this cretin has purposely ignored unanimous sanctions voted in by a Congress that can't agree on anything. And also true, he won't allocate the resources to properly address it. His own appointees complain they're hobbled by his inaction.

Prior to his being elected, his credit rating in the states prohibited him from loans. It's very likely the rumors are true and he's borrowed from Russian banks....state sponsored ones of course. While the emoluments clause has already been ravedged here and abroad (China caved on decades of Trump brand refusals until after his inauguration), his inability to separate his malignant narcissism from the core responsibilities of the presidency continues to do monumental damage to the US and our allies. al-Assad and Putin and direct beneficiaries.....among others

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#653 Post by SR » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:10 pm

SR wrote:This guy created major damage....serious attention needs to be paid him the next time around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Parscale
BTW, this guy made real gains on the coattails of the electoral interference.

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#654 Post by SR » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:24 am

SR wrote:
SR wrote:This guy created major damage....serious attention needs to be paid him the next time around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Parscale
BTW, this guy made real gains on the coattails of the electoral interference.
This is a good article inasmuch as it begins to connect the dots in terms of what data resources on psychoanalytics were accumulated and ultimately manipulated by Brad Pascale. Not mentioned in the article is the fact that BP was offered, and accepted, vast human resources (free of charge) from Facebook to implement the user infiltration. New offices were set up for the Facebook consultants. The same resources were to the Clinton camp. She refused; it's not clear to me whether that refusal was part of her now well known hubris or if she saw potential conflicts of campaign laws.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/us/p ... paign.html

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#655 Post by chaos » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:28 pm

Note the date of the press release. :eyes:

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#656 Post by SR » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:52 pm

St Pattys’ day :drink:

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#657 Post by chaos » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:47 pm

chaos wrote:Note the date of the press release. :eyes:
I had embedded a tweet that the dimwit has since deleted.

Here it is (thank you internet! :lol: )

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Someone must have told him that BB died today and not a year ago. :lol:

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#660 Post by Artemis » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:20 pm

chaos wrote:
Haha...awesome! :thumb:


This weekend's G7 Summit in Quebec City should be interesting.

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#663 Post by kevin » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:26 am

I just don’t know what it will take to get this blowhard, entitled, schizophrenic, psychopath out of office. I’m hoping for a heart attack or for lightning to strike Air Force One. :rockon: :thumb:

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#664 Post by Artemis » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:24 pm

Robert DeNiro was in Toronto today for the groundbreaking of a new Canadian lcoation for Nobu restaurant and hotel.


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#665 Post by nausearockpig » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:12 pm

kevin wrote:I just don’t know what it will take to get this blowhard, entitled, schizophrenic, psychopath out of office. I’m hoping for a heart attack or for lightning to strike Air Force One. :rockon: :thumb:
And then Pence comes in. Good fucking luck if that happens. You’ll need to actually vote him out. As if.

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#666 Post by kv » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:04 pm

This is snl come to life

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#668 Post by chaos » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:58 pm

:lol:

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#669 Post by Matz » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:53 pm

"missile" is a hard one as well

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#670 Post by chaos » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:13 pm

:lol:

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#671 Post by Artemis » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:53 am

:lol: ^^


Saw this one today...




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#672 Post by Artemis » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:43 pm

I can't say I'm much of a fan of the Bush family, but props to Laura Bush's for speaking out about this inhumane situation with ICE separating children from their parents. :nyrexall:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 018/06/17/
Laura Bush: Separating children from their parents at the border ‘breaks my heart’


By Laura Bush
June 17 at 8:45 PM
Laura Bush is a former first lady of the United States.

On Sunday, a day we as a nation set aside to honor fathers and the bonds of family, I was among the millions of Americans who watched images of children who have been torn from their parents. In the six weeks between April 19 and May 31, the Department of Homeland Security has sent nearly 2,000 children to mass detention centers or foster care. More than 100 of these children are younger than 4 years old. The reason for these separations is a zero-tolerance policy for their parents, who are accused of illegally crossing our borders.

I live in a border state. I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart.

Our government should not be in the business of warehousing children in converted box stores or making plans to place them in tent cities in the desert outside of El Paso. These images are eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American internment camps of World War II, now considered to have been one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. history. We also know that this treatment inflicts trauma; interned Japanese have been two times as likely to suffer cardiovascular disease or die prematurely than those who were not interned.

Americans pride ourselves on being a moral nation, on being the nation that sends humanitarian relief to places devastated by natural disasters or famine or war. We pride ourselves on believing that people should be seen for the content of their character, not the color of their skin. We pride ourselves on acceptance. If we are truly that country, then it is our obligation to reunite these detained children with their parents — and to stop separating parents and children in the first place.

People on all sides agree that our immigration system isn’t working, but the injustice of zero tolerance is not the answer. I moved away from Washington almost a decade ago, but I know there are good people at all levels of government who can do better to fix this.

Recently, Colleen Kraft, who heads the American Academy of Pediatrics, visited a shelter run by the U.S. Office of Refugee Resettlement. She reported that while there were beds, toys, crayons, a playground and diaper changes, the people working at the shelter had been instructed not to pick up or touch the children to comfort them. Imagine not being able to pick up a child who is not yet out of diapers.


Twenty-nine years ago, my mother-in-law, Barbara Bush, visited Grandma’s House, a home for children with HIV/AIDS in Washington. Back then, at the height of the HIV/AIDS crisis, the disease was a death sentence, and most babies born with it were considered “untouchables.” During her visit, Barbara — who was the first lady at the time — picked up a fussy, dying baby named Donovan and snuggled him against her shoulder to soothe him. My mother-in-law never viewed her embrace of that fragile child as courageous. She simply saw it as the right thing to do in a world that can be arbitrary, unkind and even cruel. She, who after the death of her 3-year-old daughter knew what it was to lose a child, believed that every child is deserving of human kindness, compassion and love.

In 2018, can we not as a nation find a kinder, more compassionate and more moral answer to this current crisis? I, for one, believe we can.

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#673 Post by Hype » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:32 am

This separation of children at the border is sad, bad, etc., but it's a consequence of the change in policy to arrest the parents. As I understand it, children are routinely separated from their parents during all arrests. The problem with these cases at the border is both that the conditions in which the children have been held are poor (to the point of inhumane) and language barriers, racism, and poor training may exacerbate the way in which the arrests are conducted. Plus, there is probably a better, safer, easier, cheaper, and more humane way to deal with illegal or disputed border-crossings than this... If they're going to continue separating the children and arresting the parents, then they could alleviate much of the suffering by simply hiring childcare workers and paying for a better solution for temporarily housing these children. It's mind-boggling that they didn't default to something like that.

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#674 Post by chaos » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:56 am

Hype wrote:It's mind-boggling that they didn't default to something like that.
The new policy is meant to be a deterrent. It is a calculated, hard-line act by Trump & Co.

The chilling part is once the parent and child are separated, there is no organized method for reuniting them once they are in separate facilities. In some case, they are deporting the parent(s) and keeping the child(ren).

I can't imagine being put in a position of having to flee my country (let alone traveling thousands of miles to do so), and then not being able to find safe refuge.

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#675 Post by chaos » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:30 am

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